Apple’s plans for iPhone 17, 18 and 19! (CultCast #698)

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oh jeez
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lewis yeah I agree and entirely inappropriate you want the tweet action
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though i have no idea if we're actually live but we're going to find out find out shortly hopefully
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this Oh you know what did the boom too early we gota do it again there we
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go okay we're live I think oh man it's It's working i can't
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believe it wow it's the first American pope i saw that from Chicago of all
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places yeah you know what that means we're still winning deep dish in the
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Vatican oh my god they probably don't have deep dish
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there you know it's an American thing people think deep dish is Italian lewis I don't think so yeah what does Italy know about pizza let's get some deep
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dish in there got to get some deep dish italian beef too oh yeah oh man i went
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to a uh I went to a pizza place in Seattle recently with my wife and they
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were known for doing deep dish and I had heard that they were good so I went there and we got there and first of all
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the place is like outrageously expensive so they they have decided this is just so typically
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Seattle they've decided that they're not going to do tips or anything anymore they just fold the 20% tip into the
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price of the pizza so you don't have to tip you don't have to pay you don't have to pay them anymore they're going to just charge you 20% extra so like the
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deep dish the deep dish pizza was a 12-in pizza was like you know $185 or
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something like that probably like it was probably like 45 bucks we didn't even get to try one because we got there and
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she's like "Just so you know it takes you know 50 minutes to to to bake the deep dish pizza." And I'm like "50
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minutes we have time to sit here for 50 minutes." So we did one of their thin crust pizzas which were actually really
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good but it was $44 for a 12 inch thin crust 12 inch 12 inch thin crust and
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that's what is that with the 20% that was that was everything that didn't include tax but it includes you know the
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price of the pizza and then the tax they put on top of it or the tip that they put on top of it the automatic tip is
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just it's antithetical to what a tip is all about it it is literally antithetical to what a tip is all about
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that that that that is literally true it's like to ensure proper service right
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and it's supposed to be reward for people that do a good job back in my day because I used to be a server right and
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people typically will tip you generously but you know if you don't do a good job something gets screwed up they they may
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not kind of good motivation you know
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yeah wow i've studied you with my my story okay and Griffin so American Pope
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yeah I know i can't wait to read more about that after the show because we got
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a show to do here lewis we got Level Remix in the chat we got Mr hobs we've got
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Heights he keeps it simple highway Robbery i'm appalled he must be talking about that pizza price Lewis i'm telling
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you man you get on you go in like the downtown like Seattle corridor not even downtown but like any of the trendy
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neighborhoods better have like a couple credit cards you have to split the bill into two credit cards to pay for that one uh we got version 55.71 no idea what
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that means and I don't want to know and I think we're ready to start we got Quorum the fact that we're even live
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here is an absolute miracle we're using an all new platform
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and as you might have expected we did absolutely zero testing until we went
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live just now it seems to be working and it only took an hour to set up
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and the good news is it might take you an hour every single week because you're so excited about it well we we'll have to dial that part
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in but uh with practice we get it down to a cool like 40 minutes yeah hopefully
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oh man oh you want to know what platform we're using uh video.ninja cool platform cool
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name and it seems to be working and it's free because as many of you know we were using Skype in uh they retired Skype
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this week and unfortunately there's not a platform that does what Skype does i
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mean there's a lot of platforms that each kind of do what Skype does but Skype had NDI tools built in which is
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something that you need for our broadcast and nothing had it at least that I could find without going into
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some like corporate you know payment plan some kind of corporate platform because I guess only corporations need
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those features it's very weird anyway PJ Balum's here he says "Morning
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from Oz." I think that means the prison he snuck in a prison phone he's using his bandwidth to watch our show which I
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appreciate because we need every viewer that we can get let's go ahead and uh queue up Mrs d and we'll get this thing
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rolling because we actually have a lot of stuff to talk about oh Mrs d oh Mrs d in a great mood today oh yes
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my dear i was also confined in a prison last night oh boy a prison of love
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making okay i don't know what that means prison
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of love making a room you can't leave like it unlocks itself after like 8 to
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10 hours does not sound appropriate okay well knowing her it's definitely not mrs
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d we definitely don't want to hear any more about that we got all sorts of Apple topics to talk about this week and
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we have no idea if this show is even going to make it to the end because of the new platform that we're using so we're just excited to see what happens
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so if you don't mind we'll get the music going and we'll get this thing started in three
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two Hello and welcome to the coasty best 30 plus minute Apple conversation you're
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going to hear all week long i'm your host Air join me today you've heard of the Vulcan neck pinch well he's got his
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own move his own move called the Wallace head pits where he puts his hands on both
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sides of a rider's head and squeezes until their eyes bulge out like the end of Total Recall it's a serious but
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effective disciplinary tactic that keeps the writers typing and on task he's the managing editor of Cult lewis Walls is
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here yeah that sounds awesome just like your audio feed is it weird or what all
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right okay well can't go back now also with us some people like to use a fan as
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a white noise machine he prefers the sounds of a Apple dot matrix desktop printer that
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[Music] delightful just relaxes him puts him right to sleep he's a writer for Cult
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Griffin Jones good evening you know it's not really the the printer that's a my my favorite
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like ambient noise sound i do really like the sound of like good old good old hard drive just like spinning up and
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woring big loud fan an old computer the the the
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silent but uh barely audible irritating high-pitched hum of a CRT oh man I miss
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those days that those were soothing sounds and like the other one that the kids will never know and never
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experience the white noise on a TV when the broadcast has ended right and there's
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just it's just picking up I don't know radio waves but nothing how how are how are science teachers in eighth grade
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going to explain the concept of cosmic background radiation if kids today don't understand TV static as a as a as a
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frame of reference well we're gonna have a lot fewer astronauts that's for sure because how else can they how else can
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they understand those topics but it was cool there were a lot of little analog things that you could enjoy my one of my
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favorite old computers in my collection is uh like a TRS80 I have the power switch like is gigantic and it glows red
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when you turn it on oh that sounds safe that that giant switch and then you hear that as
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it warms up we've lost these things you I'm gonna be honest i think you should probably buy a
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Geiger calendar and get that thing measured that sounds incredibly
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dangerous it's a portable computer that weighs 20 pounds yeah so portable well technically portable i mean that is true
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you could take it to Starbucks if you were so inclined so we are How dare you in fact if you do the nice thing about
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our new platform is is I can you can call in from your phone dude you can do the entire thing from your iPhone if you
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wanted to because you could just load that link in your phone so we are trying a brand new streaming platform i am
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absolutely shocked that is working as well as it as it is i mentioned before the show we did um absolutely zero
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testing except for like the 30 minutes before the show to get it configured and and so far dude it's working great like
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the picture looks good the audio is all coming in i mean I everything was piped in like right before the show and so far
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so good but if we all disappear or if Lewis just disappears or if anything strange happens well that's why but so
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far so good they retired Skype this week which is what we were using and uh we
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I've been searching for other tools but just nothing had the the features that we needed except for this arcane like
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web platform tool that we're using which seems to be working great so far okay look this is not what you're here for
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maybe it is actually the banter is often better than the actual content itself um we got all sorts of great topics to talk
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about this week uh Apple's prepping an allnew battery case for its new iPhone 17 Air because the thing's going to be
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so slim that you only get 10 to 15 minutes of battery life so you're gonna have to buy a separate battery it's going to be like that battery with the
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Vision Pro actually I'm calling it here first you're going to have to carry that around with you that will be in the small print like the phone will be as
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thin as a credit card and everyone will be so excited and impressed and then what they don't show you until you dig into it is it has a wire that attaches
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to a battery pack you wear at your belt we'll see what happens they should do coiled the coiled wire like the old uh
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'7s real phones yeah that sounds nostalgic enough just to make the cut so
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awesome will look great in a marketing ad too uh let's see here we're going to talk all about upcoming updates to
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iPhone 17 18 19 20 21 22 we if we if we
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run out of rumors we'll just start making stuff up and you guys can decide for yourselves what's true and what's not that'll be fun but
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Wow if you say his name he's going to show up in the chat so you got to be careful uh it three times he shows up in
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your room yeah that's right right behind you on the screen only as an apparition though it's like a
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mental projection i hear he's into that stuff so we're going to talk about plans for iPhone 17 18 19 as the title implies
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um I'll talk about the start i don't know if anyone cares apple building AI search into Safari i mean that actually
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might be useful but we'll see um how it actually works the devil's in the
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details as they say it looks like Apple's building server chips again um
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does that mean we have a new Apple what do they call that thing oh god the
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XServe one of the businesses I worked at had one of those god that's such a distant memory like Apple used to Power
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PC one or the Intel one um I actually don't know it was probably the Power PC one i think it was pre- Intel i didn't
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Do they even make Intel excerpts they did yeah oh I didn't know that so yeah it was definitely pre that um that's
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funny um it looks like Apple's getting into the Apple smart glasses game and then uh we will wrap up again with your
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voicemails assuming I can get this thing to work before we dive in oh god let's
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let's dive into the first story who am I sending it to it's going to Griffin
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let's talk about a battery case i can't believe this is what we're leading with but such is the state of the news let's take it away Griffin
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well the information reports that the uh iPhone 17 Air alongside that new product
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Apple will again revive its smart battery case accessory they never updated it to USBC it I think launched
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with the um iPhone 12 because it was one of the first Mags Safe devices but uh it only it only ever had a lightning port
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on the bottom uh they might be bringing it back this will make up for the iPhone 17 Air's apparent lackluster battery
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life according to the report the percentage of users who can go a single day without recharging the thin phone
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will be between 60 and 70% for other models the metric is between 80 and 90%
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uh one of the people said um a smart battery case will help users make
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through a day of heavy use with ease ironically while such a case will
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enhance the iPhone's battery life it'll also add significant bulk back to the phone potentially negating the iPhone 17
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Air's slim design a report also suggests that Apple will initially allocate only
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about 10% of its production capacity to the iPhone 17 Air apparently the company is unsure about the slim phone's demand
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uh despite its new form factor and I I'll say I'm excited for the 17 Air i'm
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definitely going to be uh uh get getting this one out of the the new phones to review uh because it's it's the first
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time that Apple's switching to like a different uh set of priorities and strategies for designing an iPhone than
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they've had for the last few years last few years of iPhones have all kind of felt the same they've all kind of looked the same because they've all prioritized
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the same balance of cameras to battery life to size to thickness you know this
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one's this one's going to be all new they're going to They're This is This is the Johnny iPhone with And they haven't made like a real Johnny IV Apple product
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you know that's going like full Johnny in in a long time oh you never go full so thin it's almost useless yeah yeah
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but you know what it'll look really cool and I I'm excited to try it because I bet it'll feel really cool and um
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personally I I never I mean I work from home my iPhone is honestly on a charger
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probably 75% of its life it just sits on a MagSafe charger at my desk or a
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MagSafe charger on my nightstand and then occasionally it it's in my hand
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when I'm actually using it but not very often honestly i have it um set to limit
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the maximum charging to 80% which is I I rarely ever need that
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extra 20% because again almost the entire time it's just sitting on a charger and you know what it's been uh
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how long has it been nine months eight months and my battery still is at 100% of its capacity if I go into And you
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leave it charged you leave it charging um all day but in the 80%
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uh orientation yeah yeah really okay because I get the same thing but but once it gets to 80% if I'm sitting here
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I will usually unplug it just to kind of preserve the battery from or to not keep
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you know leaving it sitting there trickle charging all day um but my problem is is that because I do that I
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have to charge my phone multiple times a day i I have to charge my phone at least two times a day it's that it's that 80
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to 100% range that's really hard on your battery so if you just sit it on the
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charger but then it can't go beyond 80% then it it's going to be much healthier and that's really all you need to do all
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right let me look at I set it to 80% limit so that I could leave it on my MagSafe charger all the time and then
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not have to worry about it so I got my phone in I started using it in September
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2024 i have 207 battery cycles how many do you have
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but my maximum capacity is still at 100% because I leave mine at the 80% charge limit too
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um 279 279 wow wow maximum capacity is 98%
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i'm at 182 cycles okay so let me let me bust out chat GBT real fast jeez why how
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many days how many days has there been since when do you think these funds
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shipped se September september 2024 you can just Okay we'll
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start let's just say September 1st yeah no I'm going to go with September
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10th 2024 so we're going to do some math here
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this is great radio oh searching the rep okay so it's been 240 days
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um since then okay so I've only I've only cycled my phone 75% of that time
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yeah yeah i I actually I'm surprised because I I charge my phone a lot but it's usually to get it from like 20% to
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80% right it's like which is not a full cycle so I would have guessed that my cycle count were was it was more than a
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one full battery charge a day but I guess not i'm actually quite a bit under lewis you're over
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i use the phone a lot man i walk around the house i used I I constantly have the
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phone with me i'm sending text messages with it i'm sending Slack messages with it which explains a lot of things about
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my Slack messages probably uh all the time all the time day in and day out i
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always look down it's down 50% it's like what the I don't know not only that but just this week my wife is doing like my
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phone's dying all the time it's like it's like just in the past couple of weeks our phones have started um to
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really It's probably because our Wi-Fi is so screwed up that could be it actually bad Wi-Fi bad cellar that can
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really drain a battery but all this is to say that uh I'd be a perfect candidate for the iPhone 17 Air because
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I don't like having a big bulky phone and it's all I rarely drain the battery
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at all though i would I would I would get all the benefits and not really any of the downsides you set that sucker to
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80% you're going to get like 12 minutes well 12 minutes unless you watch a video
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that's like it that's like eight minutes yeah dude i I I mean just having something that's new is going to be a a
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major big draw for me to want to buy it but dude I don't know i feel like I'm already charging my iPhone enough
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throughout the day and to have to do that even more often with a freaking slim phone I just don't know dude we'll
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have to see what the battery life is for this phone but I uh I'm also excited for them to bring back the smart battery
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because they they never updated it and you know they bring it back for the 17 Air but any any iPhone would be able to
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use it presumably and that's an accessory that I think a lot of people miss
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level Remix says he's got the iPhone 16 cycle count 92 and his battery capacity has dropped
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down to 99 99% see I I think that that actually makes sense i I believe that if
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you leave your phone at a higher charge state for too long it degrades your
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battery more than charging it up to a higher state and then unplugging it and actually just using it that's that's my
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understanding of it we also got the $10 super chat from David Howard he really wants us to answer this question well
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we're not going to David sorry no I'm just joking wow he says "Do you guys think the iPhone Air being so thin
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further sets Apple up to have a foldable phone that converts to an iPad mini type
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device?" Yeah I don't absolutely you think so they're they're practicing making a
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phone that's that thin and eventually you know to make a a reasonable folding phone that isn't twice as thick as a
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regular phone it has to be each half has to be half as thick and so this is giving me the this is paving the way for
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that i don't know because that product is going to be so different uh I mean I
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I suppose it's possible they're trying to figure out how to optimize a device to have as much battery power as
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possible with also having less battery present in it but the foldable device is going to be so different and it's going
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to have two panes like two parts of it like in the sandwich that are going to be able to hold battery i don't I don't
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know that this device is going to help them to figure that stuff out but in any case um anything else about about the
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battery case i think we should probably just move on and forget we ever talked about this i'm not sure if people care about the battery pack but um one thing
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seems certain if you get the iPhone 17 Air you're going to have a battery pack and I suggested it's going to be the one
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that they use on the Vision Pro just repurposed it will go on your belt and you can just wear that and have it have
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a cord preferably a uh one of those coiled cords like Lewis likes going up to your iPhone that doesn't seem
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inconvenient does it steve Jobs would totally let that go he'd have no problem with that all right Louis let's talk
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about some other iPhone news the big shake up that Yeah we might
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be in for a big change in the way Apple does business you know usually Apple has the big one one big iPhone launch every
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September shows off all the new models and then every couple years it releases like a iPhone SE or iPhone 16e list
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earlier this year uh well supposedly starting in 2026 Apple might abandon that iPhone template uh the information
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once again reports that Apple will launch the iPhone 18 Pro in the fall of 2026 alongside an iPhone air and a
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foldable foldable phone company would then delay the release of the regular iPhone 18 until spring of 2027
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the staggered release would uh you know let them really showcase the the pro model and and the of course the foldable
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phone which you know that'll be the hopefully the show stealer right
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uh and might push Apple's revenues higher because uh you know of course the
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pro and I'm sure the the slim is probably going to be a fairly expensive phone and the I I don't know slimmer air
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everybody has I I we still don't know what that's going to be actually called but but the the slim them and the
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folding you know the folder i mean gez who what are they talking like 2,000 at least right that's going to be over the
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top expensive that was before the tariffs let's see uh and then so once
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they once they have those big big big high profile high profit margin things then they can release the regular one
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and the cheap one in the spring and hopefully get a little bit of juice out of that as well very exciting very
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exciting it It would be weird wouldn't it to have like the iPhone 18 Pro come
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out in the fall and the iPhone 18 come out six months later that would be so
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strange but it would be better for our show it makes sense though i mean I mean the um the the kind of people who are
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buying an iPhone as soon as it comes out in September are the people who are more interested in the pro ones you know
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people who don't pay attention to the iPhone release cycle they just buy whatever the phone is whenever they need a phone and they don't they don't pay
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attention they don't really pay attention so have having two two
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announcements throughout the year not only gives them more you know mind share in the news cycle overall but you know
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it also raises the probably raises the um the the the average selling price per
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unit in the fall release because if they don't have the uh you know iPhone 18 at the same time that they have the iPhone
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18 Pro then more people are going to be tempted to buy the Pro yeah oh man
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that'd be a bummer to buy something and have it be like outdated like six months later i hate when that happens one of
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the things it would be weird announcing the 18 Pro at the same time that they still have the 17 for sale yeah one of
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the things I saw was like oh well these other companies release two phones a year so Apple kind of always feels a
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little behind or something i I don't know if that's true i I think it's going to seem weird if they release uh an 18
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Pro in the fall and then and then in the spring here's the iPhone 18 it's going to sound bizarre maybe they would ditch
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the numbering system or something i mean it just sounds really kind of nuts doesn't it
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i'm most worried about the price of all this stuff these tariffs are no joke man
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and I forget what the what what the title of the report was but wasn't there a report out this week that the tariffs
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were going to end up costing Apple like $900 million or something extra for phones that was from
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the earnings call last Tim yes that in response to one of the questions he said
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yes the in the upcoming quarter they expect the tariffs to cost Apple $900
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million and they said we can't provide any guidance beyond that i mean they don't do that anyway but they said
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because there are certain things impacting that quarter that make
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the the impact of the tariffs less so like 9 900 million minimum problem
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that's that's for the summer quarter before the iPhones and they're saying it's going to impact the 900 million now $900 million is a big number but
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compared to their average revenue of like $95 billion it it's a drop in the
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bucket it's about 1% uh but they uh you know they supposedly shipped in a whole
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bunch of product before the tariffs even were put in place right so that's one of the mitigating factors for this next
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quarter is oh that this stuff already was here so but I don't know how much
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you want to talk about this but they're also they're making big big big changes to their supply chains oh yeah the the
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latest thing that this is also from the earnings call they're saying that they would they they hope to have all of the
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iPhones sold in the United States produced in either India right india and
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I think Vietnam or Actually not just iPhones but all products to they don't want to sell Chinese-made products in
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the United States because the tariffs are so much higher on China so they're trying to move all of that to these
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other countries they'll still make iPhones for the rest of the world in China but they want to take their US a
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lotment not from China okay which is Can you imagine the headache i I I it it my
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head starts spinning just thinking about it like trying to like change your entire supply chain to a different
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country so that Oh my gosh and it's not going to happen fast and you know I I
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was thinking about this last night actually um I was watching a review of this product called the Yuthi
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make the Yui make so like Yuthi is I think an anchor company right
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and they're a Chinese company to my understanding um and they have made this
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product called the UI Make it is a desktop UV printer now I'm not going to
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sit here and pretend like I know anything about UV printers i don't even know why this thing popped up on my feet to be honest with you but UV printers
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use uh UV light and the special ink to cure the ink in real time and it's able to
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print on like a plethora of materials wood metal glass you know you name it
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and the print quality is like out of this world vibrant and looks so amazing
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and you can print your own pictures on canvas and stuff and there's this guy I I think his channel name was called
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Laser Printing 911 i'm like his whole channel is just dedicated to like these obscure printing methods and the guy's
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like 50,000 has like 50,000 subscribers i'm like this is the this is crazy this is just the power of YouTube right here but anyway I'm watching this printer and
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he's showing all the accessories that come with it how you can like use it to like print on mugs and it will like
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self-level the mugs like create a flat surface so we can print on the circumference of the mug and all the self stuff that it does and I was like
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thinking to myself this is not going to happen in the US like I'm sorry these
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machines are not going to be built here anytime soon i would love to see don't get me wrong I would no one would love
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to see manufacturing come back to the US more than me well that's probably not true trump probably does but I think
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it's really cool to move manufacturing back here and to make and sell things to other countries i think that's great but
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it's not going to happen in two weeks it's not going to happen in a year like when you see the quality of this product and like the things that are being made
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in China like the industry that they have that enables these things to be made and the expertise that's needed and
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the factories and everything this is going to be a long slog to be able to move that kind of thing here and I just
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don't think it's going to happen quickly um and I just can't imagine to your point Leo like the the astounding effort
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it's going to take to move these massive operations and expertise from one
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country into other countries and just think about all the investment that Apple has made into Foxcon and these factories to have specialized equipment
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and to train the people on how to use the equipment and maintain the equipment i mean it's like you know 30 years of
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work right how do you move 30 years of work from one country into another i'm sure they'll figure out something you
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know ingenious but just watching this review I was like "Oh no this is this is not coming here
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anytime soon." Like this thing is like first of all this is a really cool product by the way
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um this this printer I I guess UV printers are are very expensive or have
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been very expensive and there has been like this um this this trend of companies like
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Yuthi and other companies making products that are typically only available in the commercial realm
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available to consumers this you this UV printer I would say it's one it can also do like 3D printing so it can create
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like like 3D um designs where it has
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like a texture to it and it's almost like a combination of like a 3D printer
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and uh like an actual like inkjet printer at the same time so it can create like a 3D shape and then use
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color to color that shape it's it's it's it's amazing but I was watching reviews on Don't ask me why I was doing all this
31:54
stuff on the like the company Ninja have you guys heard of the Ninja they make all sorts of like appliances and stuff
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they made a couple machines that have gotten really popular and are completely novel um one is like your own slushie
32:08
machine called the Ninja Slushie have you guys heard of this thing no i I I've
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never tried it but people love this thing like it's so highly reviewed the
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Ninja Slushie um so you know it does exactly what you think it it it's a it's
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a machine where you like put in different liquids and it will literally make you slushies or margaritas or
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whatever and apparently it makes really good drinks people love this thing and then the other machine that they
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recently came out with was called the Ninja Creamy so it's like this machine that that you can just put a ton of
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ingredients into to make your own ice cream that got really popular people have loved it and then they released a
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new version and and and nobody on their marketing team stopped them from calling it the creamy hey look whatever works
32:56
right i mean they called they called it the iPad remember that when that happened um and I remember how much we
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clowned on that so then Ninja came out with a new version of their Ninja Creamy uh Ninja called the Ninja Creamy oh god
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what's it called swirl creamier oh the swirl the Ninja Creamy Swirl so like this machine adds the ability to like
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have like those handles on those soft serve machines and so oh my god you can make like ice cream with it and then you
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put the ice cream into like this giant um compressor and it will actually make
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you like swirled ice cream i was trying to convince my wife that we needed one of these because I was like you guys I
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my kids especially they're always eating treats that my wife has made herself and I'm like this is perfect like you can
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like put milk and peanut butter and blueberries and all this other stuff in this machine and it will literally make
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you a your own soft sort machine and and and it's highly reviewed people seem to really love this thing and and it's cool
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like fun to be creative with it and stuff anyway you got to wait till version two you got
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to wait for the creamy two that's when they have two different colors swirled oh with one color it's not nearly as
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interesting as the two that's true that's That's true maybe you could make the ice cream in such a way that would
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come out swirled um I don't know man but anyway all that to say there's all these
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machines being created and and all this industry is coming out of China right and like if you move this stuff out of
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China into India or these other countries I just don't know that they're prepared to innovate in these ways certainly not here in the US um let me
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put it this way in in 2017 when Nintendo came out with the first version of the Switch it cost $300 and they just
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reintrodu introduced the Switch 2 at like $450 2017 was also the year that Apple introduced the iPhone 10 at $999
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and the iPhone the the iPhone 10 eventually like the iPhone whatever Pro has always been $999 ever since and that
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price has not gone up and you know eventually they had the big one at $1,200 and used to be $1,100 but they
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got rid of that price point but that is to say like they haven't adjusted the prices of the Pro phones in as much time
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as Nintendo has had the original Nintendo Switch at $300 and look what happened there so brace yourself yeah
35:13
for September I don't know i I mean I I point taken i I think that Nintendo had a lot more space for a price increase
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because when they But they're the only console company that actually makes money on the console and doesn't uh you
35:26
know artificially lower it and make it up through the through the games afterwards nintendo they can do that too but yeah compared to Xbox and
35:32
PlayStation they actually make a profit on the hardware so they have margins there to play yeah and and Nintendo I don't think was expecting the Switch to
35:38
be as hugely popular as it is and and that console has well I think it's one of the most popular consoles of all time
35:44
and and the Switch 2 being so hotly anticipated I think it's going to sell just fine i think the Switch was
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probably underpriced they probably could have raised the price a lot and actually kept selling it really well um I don't I
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don't know that that Apple can do that like can you charge $1,500 for a base iPhone no way i I don't think you can i
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would say that's not the base iPhone that's the Pro iPhone okay well sure for But the base model of the Pro phone if
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they gave you nothing new and they just said "Hey the price is going from $9.99 to,200 I think 1,200 might be the
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threshold i mean that would be a big increase but you might be able to pull that off but
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1,500 no way 1400 I don't think so man i mean you could only go so far before people just start changing their buying
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behavior my my guess is pro iPhone at 1,200 and big iPhone at 1500 you might be right
36:35
about that i hope you're not painful part of the September prediction game when we get there yeah okay well in the
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meantime let's move on we got some other stuff to talk about um man I have just been absolutely loving I I I've been
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weaving um AI tools into a lot of my workflows and just trying to force
36:52
myself to like learn and use this stuff and actually I've really kind of fallen in love to be honest with you i could probably do a whole episode on like all the stuff I'm using and how I'm using it
36:59
and why I'm using it and the cool stuff that you can do with AI and the more I
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use it the more I realize this this is going to be ubiquitous especially once AI becomes agentic which is the word
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they use to qualify or or to describe AI that is um autonomous right it's like AI
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right now for the most part you have to go and interact with and it just remains like on that page or in that app and
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like when you leave it's not doing anything for you that's going to change and it's going to change really soon and
37:30
it an AI is going to go autonomous and it's going going to be able to go do complex tasks for you without your
37:36
intervention without your involvement and then come back to you with results or not come back to you at all and just
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go do its thing it's going to actually be able to replace human effort in a lot of different ways that's a whole other
37:47
tangent I won't go into now but Apple is considering building AI search into Safari so wait wait wait wait before we
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get to the story over the iPhone 18 Air story did I skip it
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all right it's only a problem because it's advertised in the heading and everything right yeah well let me pause
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then and Lewis let's do this iPhone 18 Air store first it's like a little bit
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more detail about the uh you know after they after they change up their strategy of launching things whatever so then
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after that report comes out Mingchi Quo one of our favorite analysts uh goes on and comes out with a thing basically
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saying here's when all the different iPhone models are coming and so what he says is in the second half of 2025
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that's this year we will get iPhone 17 Pro Max iPhone 17 Pro top analysis right
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there iphone 17 slim which is what he calls the air yeah it's great isn't it
38:41
and the iPhone 17 then first half of 2026 iPhone 17e so he says that yes in
38:48
fact the E version phone is going to be on a yearly tick you know yearly release
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schedule second half of 2026 foldable iPhone iPhone 18 Pro and
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Max and iPhone 18 slim so he's saying that that's also going to get a annually
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annual release cycle and then in the first half of 2027 that's when we'll see
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the iPhone 18 the regular iPhone 18 and iPhone 18e and then in the second half of
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2027 iPhone foldable 2 which he says is already kicked off i don't know exactly what he means by kicked off but I mean
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apparently they're going to try and do that every single year too iphone 19 Pro
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and Max iPhone 19 slim with a larger display so anyway you got that everyone
39:38
a little bit right line chart basically he's just confirming that they're going
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to do the these big models in the fall and then the basic models in the spring
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oh okay okay and six phones a year every single year six new iPhones yeah it's
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crazy it's crazy that they would just keep pushing these out you know especially Well we'll see we'll see what
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the demand is for the slim right um or the Air by the way which one do you think is going to be air or slim i think
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they're going to go with air yeah air is the name they've used before slim sounds
40:13
weird not unless you're Slimy i mean they're doing collab with See I thought
40:18
Slim Gyms or or that maybe they're doing a collaboration with Slim Gems it's going to be the Slim Gym branded iPhone
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processed meat actually maybe the battery smart battery will be covered with you know processed meat or maybe
40:32
the battery is actually also edible and so when the battery life has been completely depleted you can actually
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just eat it how about that sounds great yeah well waste not whatnot Louis all
40:44
right anyway we we promised people we had two years or years of iPhone so there it is i would I would uh be remiss
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to not uh cover this one since we literally called out in the headline and in the tweet and when people see the
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tweet go out if we don't cover the thing in the tweet we're in big trouble louis gota deliver gota deliver the goods oh
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right well let me uh pivot back to Apple building AI search into Safari so I
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thought this was actually quite interesting um our old good thought was
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quite interesting when I added it to the show notes five minutes before we went live and then and then and then I read it yeah i was like I can see why you did
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that behold the sausage i prefer not to
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i like to go extra sausage if you know what I'm saying actually I don't even know what that means so I'll leave it to
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you to determine all right let's move on quickly
41:39
uh Apple services chief Eddie Q yes he still works there uh said usage of
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Safari's search function declined last month the first time that's ever happened according to a report from
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Bloomberg now that line is interesting to me so the search function has declined for the first time ever and the
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reason that's interesting to me is because I no longer use Google search or any search engine for that matter that
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is an antiquated way of finding results i know that's strange to say maybe for those of you not using any kind of AI
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tools that that that doesn't seem like that doesn't seem like something that
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would interest you but the reason that's been true for me is because what these tools like chat GPT Perplexity do they
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go do the searching for you and instead of searching one site or two sites and you sitting there and reading through everything they go search 20 sites and
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then they bring you back all the results and they com they compare the results and show you the different um um or help
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you do the analysis that you're trying to do and they synthesize all the information and just show it to you and
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so it's way faster than search it's way more efficient than search it's a really
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great way to get an answer quickly rather than having to go get the answer yourself like this is one of the things
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that you can use AI in your life for right now is replacing search and so
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Apple's seeing this and they're like "Oh shoot what's going on?" Well people are using search less because they're using
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like these AI tools to do the search for them so Apple's being smart they're actively looking at um building AI
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search into Safari probably delivering results in the way that Google does it now I don't know if you've done a Google search recently well at the very top are
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AI results it's trying to aggregate results from multiple websites into one answer for you i don't think Google does
43:26
it very well i think that chat GPT does it much better i think Perplexity does it much better and if you haven't tried
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those tools you can use them for free you might as well um and they have apps so I mean I I've gotten to the point
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where I literally keep chat GPT open on the cult commander just in case like if there's an answer I need quickly I can
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just pop in and get it real fast the the timing is really perfect because right around the time that the Department of
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Justice is questioning Google's like 20 billion a year deal to to pay Apple to
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be the default search engine right around the time that you know the Justice Department is trying to break up Google and stop that deal uh you know
44:03
the question is like oh well who else is going to pay Apple $20 billion a year to be the default search well suddenly this
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is a brand new industry rife with billions and billions of dollars to spend to whoever will take their money
44:14
just to become the next new leader well like yeah the they could not have threaded that needle any more perfectly
44:20
no kidding i wonder if I wonder if Apple is going to try to
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become their own chat GPT right or if they're going to just outsource that to
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some kind of AI platform like they have been outsourcing source to Google and just make the money from it right
44:38
because they could build their own thing and I know that Apple likes to build
44:43
their core technologies inhouse and I don't know if this is core enough for them i mean it seems like it would be
44:50
Apple intelligence it seems like it's going to be pretty important to their business going forward but they are currently integrated pretty tightly with
44:56
Chat GPT for things that Apple Intelligence can't do which is most things and so I don't know if they're
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going to continue that partnership and I just saw a story this week that ChatGpt is angling to become This is hilarious
45:10
what I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall during this marketing meeting they're trying to become the de facto
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uh uh uh AI resource for all democratic countries i'm like what what does that
45:22
even mean i don't know and it sounds like goblygook to me um and a strange
45:27
goal and I'm not sure how you pursue it but maybe they'll end up having some kind of partnership with with Apple i
45:34
mean they already have partnerships with Apple um to a certain degree so I'm curious to see how this gets executed
45:39
but the best entire internet to the to the depth that Google has costs a lot of money and outsourcing it and letting
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other people pay you a lot of money makes you a lot of money so I think it's a pretty easy 20 billion dude $20
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billion for doing nothing for doing nothing but allowing them to connect to
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your API and be to have one engineer set the default value of a P list in settings to be Google instead of he's
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literally setting one line of code and that's it it's like the default is this and like that's what happens i know it's
46:09
more complicated than that the best part about this story was this comment from um Eddie Q quote "You may not need an
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iPhone 10 years from now as crazy as that sounds." Now the context of this statement was he was thinking that AI is
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going to replace even iPhones and you won't need them anymore i kind of laugh
46:30
maybe he's right i don't want to have a a balmer moment here but I don't think that's going to be true i think people
46:36
will always want to have a handheld screen i don't think that will ever not be true because it's hard what I've
46:43
noticed in my own life and I think this is kind of like universally true is it's hard to interact with a computer if you
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can't see what it's doing on a screen having a conversation with like Siri or you know any of those other assistants
46:56
when it's like sitting there waiting for you to say something to go do something it's almost like you get performance
47:02
anxiety you know what I mean it's like I don't really know what to say i don't really know how to say it how shall I
47:07
phrase this is my ums and a's going to screw this up it's just so much easier to have some kind of like input method
47:12
like your finger or a mouse or whatever and to see what you have on a screen and interact with it that way and not want
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to talk to this thing so that could change once once Siri can actually interpret
47:25
what you're saying well there is that but once they integrate it with AI it's
47:31
going to be a completely it's going to be an inflection point for Apple i hope that happens soon because that's
47:36
obviously a huge problem but you know the kind of language I don't want to go on too much about this because I feel
47:42
like I've already gone on too too long about like AI stuff but like just using
47:48
it as much as I have been the the complicated language it's able to
47:53
understand is mind-blowing like the stuff that it can do and then you use
47:58
Apple intelligence it's like I can make an image from a cartoon world of myself wearing a wizard hat it's
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like once Apple is fully integrated with some kind of like language model that
48:12
can understand human speech because they have AI right now that can translate virtually all languages into virtually
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any other language and language in real time so Apple just needs to connect to these things or build their own systems
48:23
that actually work and that's going to make Siri much more useful but it just kind of really illustrates how far behind Apple is okay look we're running
48:29
long holy moly how long have we been live well we haven't actually been live that long because we spent literally an
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hour trying to set up the show today that is true all right Griffin let's talk about server
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chips this makes me want fishing chips and then we'll talk about the smart glasses and then we'll wrap up with
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voicemails how's that sound sounds good let's do it so uh as we've uh mentioned
48:52
before actually I don't know if we've talked about it too much on the show but um there was a story a while ago detailing that um how Apple designs
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their products now is they design the chips first and they also design like what and they know what products they're
49:04
going to go into as they're designing the chip and so they have they have the incredibly long lead times on these
49:10
things you know because chips take five years or more to develop but they know
49:15
exactly what products they're going to make out of them and it's the the whole uh beauty and unity of Apple Silicon
49:21
making both the the the chips the hardware and the software well the new
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AI server chips uh that well I guess I should back up the new chips that Apple is making are going to be these
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all-purpose chips that they can put in both servers and uh smart glasses in the future uh the new AI server chips would
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be a first for Certino designed specifically for AI tasks that will quote "Help process Apple intelligence
49:46
requests remotely and feed information to consumers devices." The report said "Today Apple manages this task with the
49:53
same chips it puts in high-end Macs including the M2 Ultra but uh supposedly this new chip that they're developing is
49:59
going to power new server farms their own bespoke server farms and they'll be bigger and better and better than uh
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what they currently offer the report added the AI server project would use a component developed with Broadcom
50:13
according to the information without specifying what that component is so I don't know why I put that in the show notes but we'll move quickly along
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the project which is cenamed Baltra will most likely produce amazingly powerful chips before its completion by 2027 this
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may include different types of processors um with ones up to eight times the processing and graphics cores
50:36
found in today's supercharged M3 Ultra eight times the number of cores in the M3 Ultra wow
50:44
so here's my theory they're designing these new server chips with with this incredible amount of power what if that
50:51
is also the new Mac Pro chip eight times the chorus i don't know man
50:59
i mean I know these things are efficient in power but that sounds like it's going to draw like 1500 watts yeah that would
51:06
be you know it sounds like it would be a real pro computer i mean that that that that that much is
51:12
I I I feel like we've transcended pro into god into godly it's like god tier at that point right it's like I I don't
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know that there's any application except for maybe a few or five that would ever
51:25
take advantage of that much horsepower i mean the whole problem with the Mac Pro is that you know they're reusing the
51:31
same chips and the Mac Pro is so low volume that uh Apple doesn't care enough to dump all the R&D money to developing
51:38
a new chip because it'd be expensive to fabricate and hard to engineer and all that but if they're building the chip anyway why don't they just make the
51:45
computer make a Mac Pro that is actually pro eight times the power of the M3 Ultra that would be insane i mean yeah i
51:52
again I don't even know what you would do with such a machine besides bend space and time and create wormholes um
51:59
but even if they only used like the nerfed versions um like the versions
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where the cores didn't all work so they just deactivated only six times as powerful right exactly then maybe but um
52:13
I mean I guess prepare your chest cavity for the sticker shock when you try to add that upgrade it's like would you
52:20
like to upgrade to the six times the cores it's only
52:25
$45,000 but if you're a corporation or or or you're like Lucasfilm
52:31
or John or Cusa or or him and you do things that actually would save human
52:37
effort by all those extra cores then I mean it's kind of a no-brainer brainer right if you could spend $45,000 on
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something that saves you $500,000 that's obviously a good buy for a company so all right well you said it
52:49
here first we'll we'll we'll see what what ends up happening with that let's talk about um smart glasses yeah on the
52:56
on the other end of the spectrum um Apple's still looking into smart glasses i think we heard previously that this is
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like apparently the only thing Tim the only product that Tim Cook is like adamant about um let's see quote "The
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company has made progress on the chip that it's developing for smart glasses according to people with knowledge of the matter the move indicates Apple is
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ramping up work on such a device which would compete with the popular Ray-B band spectacles offered by Meta uh this
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will apparently be a very different product from the Vision Pro which is a you know full wearable computer that
53:29
surrounds and encompasses your head um which uses a you know M series chips in
53:35
it for its smart glasses Certino supposedly envisions a much simpler device that uses a chip similar to ones
53:41
used in the Apple Watch beyond that the processor in development u has allegedly
53:47
been scaled back even farther to increase battery life for the smart glasses still it would need enough
53:52
processing power to handle the multiple cameras that'll be built into it as well as Apple intelligence and uh also uh as
53:59
Bloomberg reported on Thursday quote the company aims to begin mass production of the processor by the end of next year or
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in 2027 indicating that the glasses are likely to come to market roughly in the next two years so this is another like
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stepping stone product and evolution of the Vision Pro category like yeah how do you make a lighter weight one you know and I've always said like projecting 10
54:20
years from now a future version of the Vision Pro that's going to be more powerful and more capable and might
54:26
actually have an operating system that you can do like more kinds of work on might be like a replacement for you know
54:33
an iPad Pro or a MacBook Air and the lighter weight one would you know be
54:40
uh more like more like the Apple watch like the one that that's more comfortable doesn't do as much but you know you can you can wear it everywhere
54:46
you go and you know they um the the Ray-B band specs are are are pretty popular like they that's what I keep
54:52
hearing and and I I I never see them or at least I never noticed them um and I
54:58
don't I mean having loaded all the features here in chat GPT I'm like I don't see anything here that would make
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them something I would be interested in but I keep hearing that they're popular i'm like are they actually popular or is
55:09
that astroturf i'm not sure they're pretty much just like the the the speakers so that you don't have to wear earbuds and and the camera but you
55:17
know okay something something simpler that just does do those two things but does them really well and it's comfortable enough for people to
55:22
actually wear all day long that's all it takes like the problem with the Vision Pro yeah it's a great product but you
55:27
know there's just that imagined tension of like ah it's hard to put on and then it's it's a big you know it's it's
55:34
there's the friction to getting you to put it on in the first place that makes you not feel like you want to use it too often and you know making something
55:41
lightweight that that people don't mind that you don't look like a weirdo
55:47
wearing and and also a met probably does not cost $3,500 you know that that's
55:52
what it takes to make a volume product now it's interesting I I mean hearing you describe why people might like these
55:58
i I had a product from um Soundcore it's the Anker Anka the Anchor company
56:05
Soundcore um called the Soundcore Frames i don't even think they sell these
56:10
things anymore um but they were essentially just sunglasses that had
56:16
built-in speakers so you could stream stuff to them dude I loved them in fact I still wear them all the time not I
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don't even use the audio stuff anymore um but they were just such great sunglasses because the stems were where
56:29
all the technology lived and then the front part where the glasses were were like interchangeable and they were
56:34
actually super high quality sunglasses in fact people ask me all the time like what kind of sunglasses are those just because they're cool and they're and
56:40
they're wellmade unfortunately they don't make them anymore but they were really useful um because you could just
56:47
stream music you know just to your sunglasses without having to put AirPods in your ears um and eventually I just
56:54
kind of stopped using them um just because the battery life was kind of
57:00
starting to degrade and stuff but so now I kind of see it's like okay if you get yourself a pair of like Metaf frames or
57:05
whatever they're called and they stream music and then they also take pictures and maybe some video and stuff i don't know how much they cost um let's see
57:13
here um what are they called they're called the Rayban Meta smart glasses let's look
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okay so they're not Oh wait those are not it so they are kind of expensive
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they're $330 that's a lot oh and they have another pair that's $380 there's
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different There's different SC there's different kinds yeah that's a lot $2.99
57:39
I guess depends on which pair you get um yeah I still don't get it 300 bucks for these i'm like really i
57:47
don't know man i don't know let me know chat what am I missing i I don't get it
57:52
i should probably try them before I bash them but um for that price I don't see that they do anything that I would
57:59
actually be interested in i mean AirPod AirPods Pro cost like what $270 yeah but those are if you get them on sale you
58:05
know it's like dude these are also headphones and they're a camera and they're sunglasses that look like you know name brand like Ray-B band Ray-B
58:12
band glasses i mean I guess that is part of it is you're getting a nice pair of sunglasses i I I do actually really like
58:17
Ray-B bands they're like my sunglasses of choice um even though they're way overpriced because everything is made by
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Luxotica um like every pair of sunglasses you've ever bought is probably made by Luxotica unless you buy
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them from Costco um in any case all right I think that's it right we've sufficiently flogged that one i don't
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need to go on a uh Luxotica um um tangent should we move
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into voicemails first of all let me just say dude this new video solution we're using
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working great i can't believe how good this is using in fact in fact I feel like the video actually looks better
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than it did before so if you're interested in ever watching us uh do the Coltcast live watch coltcast.com
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watch.cultcast.com we typically do it between 12 and 1 p.m um Eastern or Eastern time Pacific time on Thursdays i
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wish I could give you an exact time but I never know i just never know we
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never know what's going to happen we've been tending a little a little later the last few weeks especially
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today um but if you want to watch the rer the reruns or the video on demand um
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I think it's um Oh wait no if you want to watch it live it's live.cast.com live.colcast.com if you
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want to watch reruns or old episodes watch.colcast.com there you go now I got
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it okay so let's go ahead and boot up some voicemails we're not going to make it through all these if y'all want to
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send us a voicemail speakpipe.com/cultast
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speakpipe.comcultcast i think before I said the cultcast it's actually just slcultcast but we have a link in the
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show notes too so you can just click click that you can leave a voicemail directly from your phone in Safari super
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easy to do um try not to make it go on too long um nothing inappropriate
1:00:07
otherwise we got to block your IP address forever and send Louiswis to your house to break your thumbs and stick them up your nose um and uh the
1:00:15
other thing is what's the deal with the handling noise people try to keep the handling noise to a a meeting to a a
1:00:21
minimum like don't call us on your run and try to do your voicemail then try to
1:00:26
get in a quiet room uh tell your kids to zip it and do your voicemail not in the
1:00:32
bathroom while you're making a deuce i mean let's just be let's use some common sense here people surely I should surely
1:00:38
that didn't happen i shouldn't even say these things because they just encourage people to do all the things I just said um yeah this one comes from Eric let's
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see what Eric has to say hey Air and crew uh I just wanted to say
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drop you a message hi Air and other guys what's up Eric i should say thank
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you so much for so much of the great entertainment uh man I've been listening to you guys for well well over a decade
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oh my gosh dude goes back but it has to be over a decade and uh Thursday's
1:01:12
always a great day when you guys drop a new new show it really is i look forward to I know I've known a lot of people in
1:01:19
my life that look forward to it oh that's great you guys are doing great work and and you should be congratulated
1:01:24
on that um I can't imagine how hard it is to get it going every week it's I
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can't imag You know what he's right it is hard showing up staring at these same
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old faces every single week having to deal with Lewis's crap day in day
1:01:42
out but we do it we do it for the fans imagine you know we're all busy
1:01:47
schedules and it's incredible and we all appreciate it should be said more i also
1:01:52
appreciate you guys not going political man i can't take it any I mean I I unsubscribed to probably five six seven
1:01:58
podcasts in the past few months because I mean it could be about anything it could be it could be about Beanie Babies
1:02:05
man beanie Babies it could be about Beanie Babies and all of a sudden it turns into a political podcast
1:02:10
commentary you know who loves Beanie Babies let me tell you i'm just joking what's happening in the world and you
1:02:16
guys keep it right in the money you keep it in the lane and that's very important it's just so rare these days so thank it
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thanks so much keep it up we're listening oh wow geez i wasn't I was
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expecting like a question in there somewhere not just you know a minute and 11 seconds of um gratitude so thank you
1:02:34
for that Eric you know the one thing I'll say is we really do try hard not to be
1:02:39
political on this show we all have our opinions on things and you could probably guess what our opinions are
1:02:44
because they kind of sneak out in certain ways but I I I really I really love like talk shows of old like the
1:02:52
Johnny Carson show and he would have people of all different walks of life on
1:02:58
and he just talked to them about their common interests and never brought in
1:03:03
politics and I always like that too i I I don't need to hear about you know who
1:03:09
your congressional choices are on my deep dish pizza podcast right it's like
1:03:15
and I feel like politics has kind of encroached into everything in our lives um and I don't know if it's always been
1:03:22
this way or if I'm just older and it seems like I pay attention to this stuff more but I I'm with you man i I I think
1:03:29
that people need to stay in their lanes and not think that because you listen to them for one topic you want to hear
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their opinions on everything now that being said it's kind of tricky because I
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would love us to talk about other things aside from just Apple stuff probably not politics but I wouldn't mind talking
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about movies i wouldn't mind talking about other tech i wouldn't mind talking
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about other topics like AI and stuff and so I do want to kind of branch out and
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do other stuff but it's hard because we have built our show upon a specific
1:04:05
platform and topic and so at some point we would like to kind of branch out anyway that's neither here or there
1:04:11
anything to add on that the the Speed Pipe voicemail messages is a great avenue for that whatever our audience is
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interested in uh you know you can ask us a question on that topic that actually is totally true we have to say about it yeah yeah that that that's true and
1:04:23
we've talked about that before and and I do love that like and I'm kind of hoping I would actually love for this show to
1:04:30
turn more into well how do I describe this i would I would love to branch out into other topics based upon the things
1:04:36
that you all want to leave us voicemails about which could lead us anywhere and my favorite topics at least well I was
1:04:42
gonna say at least in the last you know year or two but I would say probably historically for the entire length of the show have always been the things
1:04:49
that we didn't expect to talk about like that's always when I'm having the most fun and it's kind of like car talk where
1:04:56
you're listening well they're talking about cars as like the the uh main topic of
1:05:04
the show but it's really just an excuse to talk about other stuff and I I would love to see us kind of go that direction at some point all right uh let me see
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this one is from attempt number two from Paul ignore
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prior cuz his previous two attempts didn't work
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all right everybody knows the easy wins for the Vision Pro i call it the cost comfort content triangle get more
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immersive content get the cost down get the eyes off of the front of it to lower the cost further make it more
1:05:34
comfortable make it lighter weight easy wins right but what if Apple did something else that I think they would
1:05:39
be particularly well suited to do what if they did simulated gaming or
1:05:45
simulators I guess right so Apple already has in the App Store XPlane a ton of flight simulators they have a
1:05:51
bunch of racing simulators i'm pretty sure somebody in the executive suite is into racing sims as well apple Vision
1:05:58
Pro is so well suited as a device that you know you would stay seated particularly for these types of things
1:06:04
imagine if you could just look around the cockpit of an aircraft or of a race car or whatever and just simulate it's
1:06:10
like a sophisticated kind of gaming that I really think Apple could niche down on and really dominate because a lot of the
1:06:16
simulators on the market hardly really have any VR support at all this is
1:06:21
something I really want so one of actually one of the top video games that I that I play is of all things Asphalt 8
1:06:31
Airborne which is kind of like a completely generic honestly not not a very good racing game but it's on Apple
1:06:36
Arcade and the Apple Arcade version is great because it doesn't uh there are no inapp purchases and all that but I play that on my Mac um occasionally on my uh
1:06:45
on my Apple TV for funsies and you know what i play it on the Vision Pro where it's just a blownup iPad app but you
1:06:52
know what it's it's something and it's it's an engaging game on the Vision Pro i But it's not fully 3D i really want a
1:06:58
full 3D racing game for my Vision Pro i would pay I would pay a ludicrous amount
1:07:04
of money for that i would I would pay full video game like Nintendo $80 price for it just to have it because it would be incredible and I've I can't tell you
1:07:10
how many uh random emails I've I've I've sent off to the developers of that game
1:07:16
studio to ask them to to bring it to Vision Pro properly but um that'd be fantastic i I I'm right there with you i
1:07:23
think I think Paul's got a feature in product management um great suggestion and there's so much they could be doing
1:07:29
with the Vision Pro i mean imagine driving forward but turning your head left and right and seeing the video game
1:07:37
from that perspective and you could you could you could make that true in so many different gaming scenarios where
1:07:42
you're moving in one direction but looking in a different direction i think that would be super immersive and you know what they need to do i don't know
1:07:49
if you guys ever saw this i got to bring this up um so you know Disney is always working
1:07:57
on technology that could improve or create new Disney experiences um and
1:08:04
this might be the closest we ever get to a hollow deck so this is news from a
1:08:10
year ago maybe disney has invented this thing that they're calling the holotile floor
1:08:16
it's a floor that moves under your feet it looks like a like a tiled bathroom
1:08:22
floor with like small round tiles i don't know how this works but as you're
1:08:29
walking you actually aren't moving anywhere and dude you can see in this example so the guy has like a headset on
1:08:36
and he's moving and the tiles are moving so he's staying in the same place but he's looking around with his head this
1:08:42
would be absolutely killer i mean imagine being able to play a video game this way or more i think this could be a
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big thing is virtual tourism you could walk through Disney World you could walk
1:08:54
through Joshua Tree you could walk through Zion National Park you have this thing on your head you're walking on a
1:09:01
on a floor that's moving and you're looking around in in 8K i think that's
1:09:06
an experience that people would really enjoy i think it could be something that's novel and unique for the Vision
1:09:13
Pro because nothing else can do it as well as that headset but these are the types of innovations Apple has to kind
1:09:20
of start figuring out right because like right now I feel like they've just kind of plopped out Vision Pro and they're
1:09:26
waiting for and developers to do something with it that that is going to sell the actual hardware and so far I
1:09:32
haven't really seen that's true um and I think they need to do a better job at maybe creating some of their own
1:09:37
innovations on things that you can do that are new and novel with Vision Pro but for sure gaming I think could be a
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huge one visual tourism or virtual tourism I think can be another one okay let's see here this one is from
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Anonymous let's hear what Anonymous has to
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say oh boy we already know who this is every time with the static and
1:10:03
the every time every time it's a signature uh
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hello this is the Apple loyalist we know we know we appreciate you but what is
1:10:17
going on with that static dude i really don't know it's like he is folding his
1:10:22
laundry as he as he's leaving us a message and like the static from his clothes are like shocking his phone or something he he he pushes the record
1:10:28
button so hard that his phone tumbles out of his hands onto the ground every time to say great job on the show thank
1:10:35
you so much for the suggestion that you gave me and I have an Apple
1:10:42
accessibility podcast um for people to check out it's over by
1:10:49
uh direct um sounds and it talks about
1:10:54
Apple accessibility and Oh
1:11:01
no he didn't share the name of the podcast did he he fumbled he fumbled before the
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Yeah seems as if there was a catastrophic event
1:11:14
yeah all right well we appreciate the Apple enthusiast as always um if you
1:11:20
want to call back and plug your podcast we'll allow it but I don't know what's going on with your phone my friend but there's something going on with that audio it's It's like he lives near like
1:11:27
a like a like like a cell phone tower or a or like a power line or something
1:11:32
that's causing static okay let's move on this one comes from Intuitam
1:11:40
hey guys it's Intuit hey well happy May the 4th be with you
1:11:47
day wondering if you guys are into Star Wars and if so what's your favorite part of Star Wars
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oh man that's a loaded question he's trying to get us to fight with one another I think first of all points for having the
1:12:02
Apple chime queued up and to actually get it to work um that means he had to
1:12:07
have like two phones there one to record and or maybe he's doing it on his on his Mac or maybe he had a a a Macintosh
1:12:15
Quadra 660 AV yeah probably sitting right there it's just sitting right there um so feelings on Star Wars
1:12:22
favorite Star Wars movies i got this actually came up in a in a in
1:12:28
a a different discord that I'm in um uh here here are my rankings s tier Empire
1:12:35
Strikes Back A tier Star Wars 1977 and Return of the Jedi The Force Awakens and
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then uh everything else is you know you can watch that if you want to but I don't recommend it it's pretty simple
1:12:49
i'm an OG trilogy all the way and you know The Force Awakens it was fun to watch in the theater i'll admit that the
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the the other movies aren't great and the prequels aren't worth um any attention whatsoever
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g I don't know man i I I I'm right with you on Empire Strikes Back not just a great Star Wars movie just a terrific
1:13:08
movie the writing of that movie is some of the best in any movie um in fact there's always one line that was like
1:13:14
"God such a great line." I think it was when Luke was talking to Yoda and he goes "Luminous beings are we not this
1:13:21
crude batter." How was that that was S tier right there that was such a great line
1:13:27
there was so much good writing in that movie um I'm gonna have to disagree with you on the prequels you know the
1:13:33
prequels were not great i I totally agree but for some reason they're oddly nostalgic for me and maybe because I was
1:13:40
um old enough to remember them and I was not in diapers when they came out like you were Griffin yeah I remember
1:13:46
watching them were you like two that's incredible i I've said this before i was born in the 90s i'm I'm older than I look yeah I
1:13:52
know 96 right it's like the year before they came out no I'm just g a hard time but so for me I I actually really like
1:13:58
the prequels just for that reason i mean are they good from a movie perspective no they're not great and and and and
1:14:04
understandably so i mean George Lucas had not I don't think made a movie in 25 years when those movies came out so I
1:14:11
don't love them for um maybe the obvious reasons and then of course the new Star
1:14:16
Wars movies um such a tra such a tragedy man i will say
1:14:23
though Galaxy's Edge at Disneyland and Magic Kingdom well I guess it's not Magic Kingdom it's it's um Hollywood
1:14:30
Studios in Florida um absolutely incredible a masterpiece and theme park design now unfortunately they have
1:14:37
themed those areas around the new Star Wars movies which no one likes but I
1:14:42
think they are learning their lesson i think they're realizing and and they probably built this knowing that they
1:14:48
could they could pivot at some point if this didn't resonate with fans because the new trilogies or the new trilogy
1:14:55
doesn't resonate with fans and a lot of younger people like the new trilogy that I'm not I'm not denying there are people
1:15:01
that that like it but I just don't know if enough people like those movies to make them commercially successful I guess is the problem right because like
1:15:07
there's going to be people that people that like everything i like the prequels do I want to go to Star Wars Prequelville probably not
1:15:15
count Dooku not high on my list of uh Star Wars characters I want to interact with um
1:15:21
and and and so anyway yeah what are you gonna say Liz i was say don't you want to go like straight to the garbage
1:15:27
compactor from the original movie that would be cool in fact they should build a whole cafe with the garbage compactor
1:15:34
escape room yeah or or or that and if you don't escape in time you get squished right that'd be cool to me that
1:15:40
movie is the original one to me is still the best because it was it was so
1:15:46
unbelievably mind-blowing i remember watching that and just going I mean I don't know how I was I
1:15:54
was actually born when that movie came out unlike some people on this podcast but
1:15:59
uh it was me and my cousins you know we were just like blown away by it we were
1:16:06
super into it it just it was like nothing we'd ever seen you know it's fantastic and I I don't know i've
1:16:12
watched it many times and and the most recent time I I was just like "Wow this is it's so creative and so interesting
1:16:20
and and also so kind of schllocky and weird i mean it's funny it's it's it's
1:16:26
just great." And you know those just everything about it was just great and like even the the two follow movies
1:16:32
Empire Strikes Back Return of the Jedi none of them feel like the original movie like every movie in the original
1:16:38
trilogy has a completely different vibe a completely different feeling completely different settings completely different aliens like that's not how
1:16:44
they make trilogies now at all you know people watch a sequel and they wanted to they kind of just want to watch the
1:16:50
original one again but a little different and a little bigger and better but no like all three of those movies
1:16:55
are completely different yeah that's a good point yeah
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unfortunately the original original Star Wars is not something that you can
1:17:07
actually watch anymore i think the last commercial release of like the unadulterated unchanged Star Wars A New
1:17:13
Hope was released on on on Blu-ray not not Blu-ray on laser disc like in like
1:17:19
the 90s and um I will say that there is something you can find online and I
1:17:25
heard this too called 4K77 what this is is somebody who actually took like an original theatrical
1:17:32
35mm reel scanned it in frame by frame and then like hand paint like Wow
1:17:38
digitized it and corrected it and then then packed it into something called 4K77 which you can find at uh v various
1:17:45
locations in the high seas elicit hives full of scum and villain yes okay
1:17:53
yeah man it's I I wouldn't say that I'm like such a Star Wars purist that it makes me mad that George Lucas went in
1:17:59
there and fiddled with things after the fact and I know there are a lot of people that are and I I totally understand that but but I I would like
1:18:07
that version to at least be available right like there's no reason to squash it and and send your um stormtroopers to
1:18:15
every corner of the world looking for you know illicit copies of the original Star Wars just so you can completely
1:18:22
remove those um versions from I don't know the the the
1:18:28
the Zeitgeist i don't know why they don't make both available like just give the people what they want and knowing Disney
1:18:34
it's like hey you could make money if you just sold the original version um and I I like some of the the alterations
1:18:40
they made to the the the newer updated versions anyway we got to stop there my friends we have more but that's it
1:18:46
that's all the cocast we have for you guys this week but if you want to leave us a voicemail we would love to hear
1:18:52
what you have to say speakpipe.com/cultast speakpipe.com/cultcast i got to make a
1:18:58
fan of the URL that is not easy to say or remember i got I got I got to come up with something um in the meantime this
1:19:04
has been the coldcast best 30 plus minute Apple conversation you're going to hear all week long two episodes of
1:19:10
the whole cast come out every Thursday night i want to thank everyone for listening for hand out loud you like those mic tactics you never seen
1:19:16
anything like it i feel like I'm watching Prince in action or something well my pants have no butt cheeks Louis
1:19:22
you should know that whoa thank everyone for hanging out live for listening thank god this went off
1:19:27
without a hitch i can barely believe it and we will see you guys next time
1:19:35
it's time for me to drive away my little red Corvette louis you know my computer's
1:19:45
blue i always put that on after this show louis I'm going to be changing my name
1:19:50
to a symbol and I'll expect you all to Nice
1:19:57
airplane there you go all right everyone may the shorts be with you
1:20:04
live long and prosper hope you have a great weekend we'll see you next time bye y'all

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