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BIG iOS 19 and Apple Watch leaks + Apple makes WWDC25 official! (CultCast #692)
Mar 29, 2025
WWDC25 is on the calendar for June 9th — what might we see? Plus: The major iOS 19 redesign that Jon Prosser leaked! Also, weird rumors about the Apple Watch, a surprise new feature for AirPods Max and more listener voicemail messages! Chapters: 0:00 Preshow 1:45 Intro 3:44 CultCloth 5:58 Griffin’s new purchase 17:45 WWDC25 announcement 21:52 iOS 19 design leak 31:34 Apple Watch AI camera 39:56 iPhone 17 Pro 8K video 47:25 AirPods Max (USB-C) lossless audio 56:25 Speakpipe messages
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oh yeah that fixed it there we go
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jeremy Edwards you know it okay I think we're good to go so glad you overcome
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that difficulty well when you're a pro you're a pro Louis what can I say
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i didn't I didn't panic i didn't start sweating i just get in there fiddle with
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it fix it those are the steps it's a two-step process all right should we go
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ahead and go live we got some people here yeah we're running out of time last week we broadcast on Friday today we're
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like an hour early oh yeah averages out to our usual late
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time i know but if we actually went live at the same time every week we would probably get a lot more people showing up here and I've had several people ask
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like "Hey what time do you actually go live where can I watch it?" So we should start Nobody knows promoting it but like
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the thing is is like it changes from week to week like no one actually knows all right should we go ahead and uh go
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live i'm begging you we're not stopping you you can push the
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button anytime you want we're We're already live but you know like actually doing live you want to go liveer than we
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are i don't know if that's even possible liver than live okay let me go ahead and queue up Mrs
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you know who oh Mrs d
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[Laughter] mrs d oh my dear nothing makes you feel
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more alive than making love to El Cany
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gross oh Mrs d no one wants to hear anything about that if you don't mind
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we'd like to talk about this week's Apple Stories i think I got everything queued up all we need is that beautiful
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falsetto coming in hot i'll get the button going we'll get this thing rolling in three
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two hello and welcome to Hook I see fast 30 plus conversation you're going to
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hear all week long i'm your host Eran Elijah joining me today is
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well my notes got taped down uh several writers well retired writers tell tales
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of him wearing a burlap sack mask and spraying them with some kind of hallucenic beer
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gas to confirm that he's a big Batman fan i think he's a bad
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ide what a great scene that was in the movie pure fiction pure fiction uh also
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joining us he spends his weekends installing and maintaining a series of booby traps around his property in case his editor Lewis Wallace ever discovers
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his secret Ohio location and comes to pay him a visit here's a ride of foc
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[Music] good evening i actually spent my weekend making a very exciting purchase that we
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can get to if we would like to i'd love to hear about your exciting purchase but before we do that see I'm doing so many
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things behind the scenes you guys have no idea let me see if I can do this we're going live on the allnew X in
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three two oh great lewis again i think we're
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live on the All New X platform i got to figure out when to bring them in so I started late because I don't think that
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anyone and this goes for the people listening to the the podcast now they don't want to hear all the pre-show
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banter like before we actually start the show i'm not sure they want to hear the hello or any any of that other stuff they want us just to get into this
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week's Apple stories so so I'm like trying to figure out where when to start the X broadcast but in any case uh let's
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kick it off with well actually before we kick it off let me just give a quick plug here
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Griffin and we'll send it to you to talk about your mysterious new Apple purchase that I doubt you'll keep beyond the twoe
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colcast at checkout let's dive right into it griffin I heard you made a big
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purchase this weekend well maybe not big but a purchase it was a big purchase and
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it's it's not an Apple product that I'm going to return within two weeks okay i'm going to give each of you one final guess is it an Apple product
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it is a It is an electronic product okay so it may or may not be an Apple product
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uh I know you probably bought one of those like shiatsu foot massagers from
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Costco you seem like a guy who likes to have his feet massaged that's my guess
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louis what do you got i don't know probably like a a Pippen or
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some kind of old Apple product i wish I got a Pippen um yeah so as I
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mentioned last week when I was talking about the products I I was interested in keeping either the MacBook Air or the iPad Air and I did really enjoy the iPad
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Air but I I did return both of them last week because I had to budget uh for a
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different purchase as you as you listeners longtime listeners may know there are a few
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ancient terrible products in my life at the moment one of which being my Toyota Prius but I'm just so upset at the
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general car market that I'm probably not going to buy a new car for another few years uh the next one is the 30-year-old
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television that is now sitting behind me the only television in my house really was this crummy CRT TV for a while uh
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and then eventually due to complaints within the Jones household I added a
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small crummy LCD television right sitting right next to it sharing the same uh entertainment center but uh
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eventually that was also proven to not be sufficient and so I purchased a new television nice dude now I'm going to
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walk our listeners i I'm going to make this a little educational experience for our for our listeners if you're interested in buying a new TV maybe you
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have like an old LCD or even a plasma TV like you know I don't know any other John Syracuses are in our audience but
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if you're interested in buying a new TV and you also want a general Apple friendly setup and you care about the
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same things I care about here's my process i wanted an OLED TV simply because they have the best blacks all
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that it's it's the it's a it's a if you're going to buy a fancy TV like that's really what you should be looking
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for 65 in just because as far as big TVs go that's the most standard big TV you
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can barely get one smaller than 65 these days it's like the smallest TV they sell now mhm um and this is the tricky part i
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wanted to look for a nonsmart television because it's it's it's hardly a secret
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your your smart TV if you have it set up or connected to the internet is spying on you and selling an incredible amount
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of data to data brokers around the world um and especially on my crummy internet
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service I can't have any device in my house uploading gigabytes and gigabytes of data every single night and sucking
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up all my bandwidth that would that that would just be untenable i mean you could bypass all that with an Apple TV yeah
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yeah exactly well you can if you only plug in an Apple TV and you refuse to set it up but some crummy TVs like force
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you to like set it up and really if if possible I would have tried to just buy
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a TV that doesn't have any smarts in it whatsoever it's hard to do i mean I now I'm curious to know what brand you
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bought because it's not easy to find a TV that meets those requirements there is one brand of TV that uh almost
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entirely makes non-smart dumb TVs and that is Scepter s C E P O T R E I always
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thought Scepter was like a generic off-brand television i didn't even know
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they made OLEDs well I looked I heard that Scepter makes dumb TVs i looked into their selection and it turns out
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they don't make OLEDs okay and they're also really hard to buy like all the Walmarts around me just like had a
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really poor selection of the Scepter TVs that's totally believable i was I was
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really looking into it i tried to make it work i could not find one that suited my needs um also on their own website their
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website is like ancient it it looks very like early web 2.0 i mean they seem like they're on the verge of going out of
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business dude i mean like all all of these are signs yeah i'd only started hearing about them like a few years ago
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but I don't know they That's hilarious it's hard to buy their own TVs um even from their own website which is just
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perplexing to me yeah so then I look I I wanted to research well if I have to buy a smart TV to get an OLED 65 inch
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television what are the best brands that make it easy to quit the smart TV setup
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but also have like all the modern features that I want because you know icing on the cake beyond an OLED TV
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there are other features you want to look out for VRR is a big one called variable refresh rate because if you
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want to watch content at its native refresh rate you want to watch movies at 24 fps you want to watch old Doctor Who
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at 50 fps or other stuff at 60 or 29 um then when you when you start when you
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switch between the user interface of the Apple TV and you start playing the content you'll get like this big black
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screen for a few seconds as the TV has to adjust and restart the inputs well VRR is a new system that lets it
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instantly switch frame rates like just like that it's variable whatever frame
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rate is needed it just automatically slows or speeds up so long as it also matches the resolution and like HDR or
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SDR but you want a TV with VRR you want a TV with ECC and with um ECC is like
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the audio pass okay yeah it's the audio pass through right you want ERC for audio pass through if you're setting up
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a soundbar and all that um and I I really narrowed it down to two great options uh the Sony Bravia has a has a
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good TV that's a nice one yeah uhuh and also the uh LG B4 and C4
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or B5 and C5 lg as it turns out is the only company that has a reasonably sensible naming convention for their
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televisions the letters B C and G indicate like how nice they are and the
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digit four five three that's just the last digit of the year so the B4 is
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their entry-level television from 2024 makes perfect sense
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and that's what I ended up going with over the Sony Bravia because I I I read some reviews and it said the Sony Bravia
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I don't remember what model I was looking at but Ring said that it has like really choppy displays at like 24
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fps when you're watching movies the LG B4 doesn't have that uh so that's what I got i'll I'll put a link television it
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is very nice the blacks are very nice um there are a few other aspects to a TV that you might not be able to sus out
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before you buy it like I didn't want to buy a TV that takes a really long time to boot up like yeah some of them take
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like 15 seconds and you're just like staring at this logo before you actually see anything the LG B4 boots up
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instantly you only even see the LG logo when you turn the TV off which is very
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nice yeah you don't really ever want to see it to be honest with you it's like I know what TV I bought i don't need to see your logo or it's like when you're
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when you buy a refrigerator you can't like really filter by this but you want to buy a refrigerator if you have like a water feature that has like water that
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pours really fast and if you get a refrigerator that pours water really slow it's like well I guess I just have
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to deal with that for the next 10 years but um yeah it's a nice television um I
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I'll speak more about it maybe on an off topic if we want to talk more about it but I've been happy with it so far that's what I recommend for our
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listeners yeah an AI powered remote what the heck is I don't exactly know
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everything's AI powered these days okay that's not really process i turn the TV
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on for the first time and like I think you have to like pick a language and pick a date and time and then after that
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you can just quit it and you don't have to go through any of the other setup um so I don't know what other features it
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has because I just plugged in my Apple TV as fast as I could and just quit everything else and I even uh checked
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like the network activity on my router just to double check it has no connection to the internet it hasn't done anything it I but the Apple TV tvOS
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is the only interface that I use with it and it's great how much did you pay for it people got to know $1,200 okay i mean
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that's pretty good for a 65 inch TV you know it's amazing what kind of deals
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are are out there to be had on TVs and I I feel like there's never been a better
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time to buy a TV like there's just such amazing display tech available for low prices and I love that LG keeps like
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their older models available for people like the one that you bought and uh I ended up going with the so the Sony kind
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of kind of on an impulse buy to be honest with you because it was QD OLED and I had heard such great things about
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QD OLED which were all true qd OLED is like one of the most beautiful display
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technologies I've ever seen like the picture quality out of this it has a very high um color brightness um uh
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saturation and volume so like typically when there are bright scenes the colors get diminished and it just looks very
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white but with QD OLED it maintains its color saturation even in the brightness and like I think one of the absolute
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best examples of this there is a there is a scene in um Bladeunner 2049 where
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the character is in like like old Vegas which has been completely abandoned and there's like this like weird uh smog and
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and and dust that hangs over the air but like the sun is kind of hanging low and like the entire scene is like bright
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orange and it makes you feel like you're in LA at sundown you know it's just like
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the the color volume available at the brightness that's there is just like really incredible anyway I guess we'll
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give uh you know uh quick definitions for our listeners oled is just a
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technology where um you know each each pixel is individually lit which means that the blacks can be 100% black uh but
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the problem with OLED TVs I mean first of all they burn in because they have the organic layer on the LEDs uh second
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of all they can't get as bright as regular LEDs um so I believe the LGB has
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a technology called WLED where in addition to the red green and blue sub pixels it also has an extra white pixel
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just to give that extra boost of brightness so it can be as bright like my living room is the one room in my
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house that can actually get very bright because it has big windows imagine that um uh and the LGB4 is like even when
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it's peak brightness you can still see it really well because it's a W OLED TV um however when it gets at maximum
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brightness because it's boosting that with white light that dilutes the colors a little bit so it doesn't get as as
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color saturated qd OLED is the newer technology but as far as I know it's only available on like $3,000 televisions so no no no no no it's it
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it's it's becoming much more common and the prices have plummeted i mean you can get a nice QD OLED from Samsung now who
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makes the actual CD OLED displays for everybody for $15 $1600 depending on which model you get um and then Sony
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takes the same panel and puts it into a TV that's $3,000 i mean Sony is probably like the prime purveyor of QD OLED
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televisions and but there's other technologies that are on the verge of replacing QD OLED i mean it's just constantly changing there's there's so
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much going on in the TV space anyway should we talk about some Dude I I I actually have a QD OLED connected to the
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Colt Commander here that I use it's an Alienware QD OLED monitor 34 in it's not 4K i think it's 1440p but this thing is
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absolutely beautiful like the picture everything about it and it was only like 600 bucks for a widescreen monitor so
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there are deals to be had but you you got to you know know what you want and know what price you should be waiting for and that type of thing which we
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could do a whole episode on let's move on to some actual Apple stories shall we
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crazy idea just crazy we want to talk about Griffin's purchase
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but we also have some big news this week you probably all heard it about WWDC i'm
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going to send it back to Griffin to talk more about it while I pull up the story here wwdc 2025 is official it is on the
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second week of June starting June 9 through June 13 uh Monday's morning
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keynote as you know of course when they show off all their new software iOS Mac OS and their other operating systems uh
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just like every year since 2022 uh WWDC25 will have the same format of
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mixed online and virtual so it'll be the pre-recorded it'll likely be the
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pre-recorded keynote video that'll live stream everywhere online in addition to all the session videos the platform
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state of the union all of that stuff will be pre-recorded and released online however they'll invite a select number
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of developers students and press uh to watch the video at Apple Park and mingle
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with Apple employees on that Monday the online event can be accessed all
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through the week in the Apple Developer app Apple Developer website and YouTube channel which is new which is where they're uploading all their session
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videos now so that's handy yep uh WWDC on June 9 there you go is that the week
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that you'll be out of the show i will not be here that's just great isn't it i will not be here i'm going to be
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uh I'm going to be in Georgia actually on on the 9th i'll be driving to Florida
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so maybe I could call in if we could work that out otherwise you know what would be great is if I were also not
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home during that week if I were in California if Apple you should invite me to WWDC i know a lot of people are
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actually uh not really willing to travel to the US right now uh for various reasons this is not a political podcast
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but I'm already a US citizen so that's less of a problem for me you should invite me to California you know you're going to have fewer press people coming
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over uh you know we're one of the top Apple podcasts we're one of the top tech podcasts actually in the after podcast
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app you think about how much greater uh this this our post WWDC show would be
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not only without airon but also with live coverage with me in California i'm not sure I agree with that last part but
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yeah I think that we should get our invites i wholeheartedly agree i don't know where they are lewis what do we got
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to do about that can you make an email make a phone call i I'll have uh I'll
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have the Apple Intelligence writing tools craft the ultimate That's it flea
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for an invite that's what you need right there that's going to get you in um yeah man that's a bummer that I actually
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won't be available for this i'll see if I can call in or see if we can work something out just to kind of like you know give some thoughts on whatever is
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announced i'm going to Disney World June starting June 10th so yeah
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they're doing this they're doing this i know i can't believe nobody could have predicted this they're doing this uh
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this free water park pass when you go to Disney World right now it's like on the 9th we're going early to get into the
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water park for free and of course you know what that is what's that that that's just like going diving in a a
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swamp yeah except they have water slides and stuff they they uh they tie a string
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around your waist and toss you into the swamp and pull you along with one of those boats see what comes back yeah
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i've never actually been to like a really big water park we have water parks here in Washington actually we have one and it's terrible just run down
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rickety there's no great slides or anything
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what's that so I'm looking forward to I'm looking
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forward to going but yeah it does mean that I'll be out of town we're gonna have to talk about that and figured it out man that's going to be that's going
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to be an interesting challenge we probably won't be doing a video stream that week would be my guess but we'll see uh maybe I could just call in and
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leave mine if possible I'll we'll try and do like a pre-recorded video that we'll upload to YouTube it's just like Apple there you go just like Apple zero
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excitement all right well where are we going next i have no idea
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guess we're sending it over to you Lewis to talk about what we may be able to expect from the WWDC keynote some big changes
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and a big old juicy fat juicy leak or is it about iOS 19 right uh yeah so this uh
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this video from John Proer comes out this week and uh he says it's based on stuff that he saw
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you know um a while ago he showed off the camera
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app that's the way it's supposed to be redesigned and then now he's saying "Oh well actually we saw more of this this
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iOS redesign is coming and here's what it's going to look like." We and and as he often does he says "Oh we saw this
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here's our recreation of it recreation of it right so so his video offers you
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know good look at this stuff and this this kind of glossy look that's supposedly going to be uh applied to
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everything and based on vision OS uh let's see processor said Apple will
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focus entirely on a visual overhaul of iOS 19 without making any notable
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functional changes now that sounds a little hard to believe uh unsurprisingly given the current state of Apple
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intelligence the leakers source or sources add that no new AI features are included either that that would not I I
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find that a little surprising too i mean surely they'll at least use the word AI in their thing because didn't they use
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it like 937 times in the last video oh no no not AI apple intelligence mark
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German had a good point about this in his recent newsletter that like o over the last year Apple has only just been
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rolling out the Apple intelligence features that they announced last year so they haven't had time to develop new ones well they they didn't have time to
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develop the ones they showcased last year so I mean surely they will not just
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say "Oh by the way the stuff we talked about last year some of it's still on the way." I mean and surely they won't
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just clam up entirely about AI right i'm sorry apple intelligent means this is
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the same thing they they've redefined AI uh I think they'll just do the classic
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Certino silence like you know if they don't have anything to announce well you just they just won't talk about it at all really yeah so like no new Apple
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intelligence features no new other features and just everything looks kind of like the latest apps like I mean I
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think they might have like one or two but I don't think it'll be like a major segment like it was last year
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interesting so uh you know speaking of German he reported a while back that Apple's going to introduce a major
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visual overhaul ios 19 and Mac OS 16 uh
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I've heard this so many times biggest redesigns in history i was going to say I feel like that's you're burying the lead here i feel like that's that's the
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line right there we talked about this for a long time ago right uh updated icons menus apps windows system buttons
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blah blah blah german uh he reported that after
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uh Proser's first thing I I believe is is the timing on that right the first thing where where processor showed off
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what the camera app is supposedly going to look like um let's see based on the video well this is
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based on process video uh iOS 19's UI elements will adopt a glassy look with rounded corners all of Apple's native
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apps will also get a similar visual overhaul including the keyboard and as Proer points out uh you
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know the the sort of overall look and feel as you can see already in like the Apple Sports app and the Apple invites
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apps which came out like in the recent past uh yeah and and then back to uh
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German gurman's got to get his jab in
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after after this comes out after this video comes out of course Bloomberg and he German doesn't even have
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like such a diss right it's like Gman says "Don't believe the quote iOS 19
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images floating around." He He won't even name Proer
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he won't even utter his name he's like I'm not even gonna mention rude anyway
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uh German says that the the things that are floating around are quote they seem
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seem to quote be based on either very old builds or vague descriptions missing key features expect more from Apple in
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June okay way to Bigfoot it there uh German you really expect more from Apple
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than what Proer whacked up in his basement come on but I I I think that is kind of an
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important call out it's like what he saw here is maybe a based on off of old
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designs or not a complete understanding of like what Apple's actually going to do and clearly Mark knows what they're
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going to do and he's like "Hey just so you know like this is maybe a glimpse at what they might do but this is definitely not all of it and maybe not
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even that accurate." And I feel like what what front front page tech does
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pretty well is like come up with like these mockups of things that they think that might happen and oftentimes those
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mock-ups look really amazing but like then you get to the actual announcement and it's like oh that's actually not what happened so mockup was really
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comprehensive and looked really well done and almost looked like an Apple concept video but I was less impressed with the uh iOS 19 design one i mean
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what I'm most curious and scared about is how they're gonna change Mac OS
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because yeah you know you redesign the phone sure it looks a bit like Vision OS it has like the the the glossy glass
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button shapes around the button finally buttons will actually look like buttons imagine that but like how is this gonna
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What are they going to do to the Mac please dear God don't don't make it worse what are they gonna do to it yeah my
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Please my child he's so sick [Laughter] um I don't know i that that's what I'm
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curious about but of course nobody cares about a John Proer video about leaked
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Mac OS 16 isn't going to get the same level of hits well it's just weird it seems like
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they're just going to do this window dressing thing and hopefully they'll fix so many of the
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things that have kind of gone sideways in the last few years it seems like there's a growing chorus of people complaining about how X Y or Z feature
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doesn't work i mean we've all been complaining about Siri forever and it you know the fact that delivered that
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yet is kind of embarrassing but uh I guess I should clarify i'm not actually terribly happy with the design of Mac OS
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right now i feel like Allan D is making a lot of aggressions the problem is that I'm not confident Allan D is going to
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make it better i'm scared he's going to make it even worse than it is now and hide more things and make it more inscrutable and make the interface even
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less dense in the interest of making it look like everything else i hate when that happens i'm so the camera I use for
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this show they keep removing things from the firmware so you'll install a firmware firmware update and it's like
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this critical feature that you relied on is just gone and now you can't Yeah they so I I use a Canon camera and with these
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firmware updates they they release they add features that I can't or don't need and then they pull stuff that I actually
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rely on and then it's like oh you can't downgrade either i just hate when this happens and I hope that doesn't happen
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with Apple which is kind of what sounds like what what Griffin is saying i don't think that they'll necessarily remove
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anything it seems like it's going to just be a huge visual overhaul which in and of itself could add a lot of bugs to
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the OS but I'm excited man i I to get a really huge visual overhaul to make it
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look more like Vision OS i really liked that OS and so I'm excited to see what
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they've kind of come up with and their user experience team is probably one of
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the best in the world at making software that is easy to use easy to understand
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beautiful and just works the way you would expect it to so I'm kind of excited for this visual refresh which I
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think it's I mean knowing that it's one of the biggest refreshes if not the biggest refresh that they've ever done
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i'm like dude that's that's pretty cool like I'm kind of waiting to see what what tricks they have uh up their sleeve
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to improve the overall OS hopefully they fix the photos app i don't think so but
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maybe um but there's certainly a lot of things that they could do anything else
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there uh Lewis before we move on i don't think so be very curious to see what we
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actually see uh I hope they don't screw things up i feel like the design of the
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WWDC invitation is maybe a little nod to it if you look at like the the numbers two and five in the WWDC2 logo they look
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very glassy and reflective a lot like how you might expect a a light mode
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vision OS style design to look it could be you know that's funny uh a
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lot of times with these invites and things you know there's always like all this um speculation about what it all
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means and I don't think I saw any of that this time
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did you i feel I didn't hear anybody like talking about it but I feel like it's pretty obvious like it does look
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very glassy and almost like you know kind kind of like uh John Proer's camera
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concept video i really hate the you know now that I'm looking at the thing I really hate the way that the two W's
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become one whatever that is it looks It just It makes my head hurt looking at it
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god oh yeah they They like Yeah jam them together and jam them together
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yeah yeah you're right very cute all right let's move on i got to be walking
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out the door here in 38 minutes holy moly we're actually making great time let's step on the accelerator well here
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I got a wacky one for you guys which I actually think I have been digging into AI i decided I need to learn everything
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there is to learn about AI tools ai just in general for better or for worse whether you love it or not it's the
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future friends you got to learn about it i I I think like even if you don't love AI it it is going to be so ubiquitous
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that it's good to start learning about it now else i've been diving into tools trying to figure out I think my main
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angle is what can you do with this now that's actually useful because I don't feel like there's a lot of that it's a
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lot of blue sky it's a lot of hey we did this thing like here you go use it and
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tell us what you think but no one actually knows where this is going there have been a it's it's kind of hard to even keep up with AI moving so fast um
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and this feature that I'm about to talk about seems like it actually could be useful so here's the
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story this is a zany one apple prep P prep P prep P prep P prep P prep P prep P prep P prep P prep P prep's future Apple Watch with AI powered camera
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you're like what what would we possibly use that for so as the story goes this
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comes again from our old dear friend Mark German who we get lunch and dinner
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together like probably once a month he he doesn't stop texting me Lewis i just like I'm like "Don't you have articles
32:58
to write like I know we're close you're so insistent i I know we're close personal friends you know you invited me
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to your your your uh your christristening and those types of
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things and I appreciate that but I have work to do please stop texting me well in his latest edition of Power On he
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said Apple will be adding cameras to future Apple Watch models with AI
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assistance and input from the camera the smartwatch could provide relevant contextual information the current idea
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is to put the camera inside the display of the series version like the front-facing lens of the iPhone uh the
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Ultra will take a different approach with the camera lens sitting on the side of the watch near the crown and button
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says German apple will seemingly be able to put the camera on the side of the Ultra okay well we don't care about that
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uh do not expect Oh this will let users point the watch's camera at an object to
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access to a access why did I say that's so weird more information however do not expect the camera to be used for making
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FaceTime calls so from what I've seen you know there's already a lot of visual
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intelligence out there where you can upload an image ask AI about things but there's no easy way to get those kinds
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of images into like these AI systems you have to like take a screenshot or take a picture and upload it but imagine if you
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could just point your wrist at something and start getting information about it like that is actually pretty useful and
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that's something that you could use like imagine you're working on your car and you're like "Hey what's that part where can I buy it?" And you can use your
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watch and it will analyze the image and pull it up maybe you're pointing at a plant and you're like "Hey uh what's
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wrong with this plant like this leaves this leaf looks weird what should I do about this?" Gives you an answer i mean there's all sorts of things that you
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could do if there was some kind of easy real-time way to get images into like AI systems not to mention dude once you
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have this with any kind of like is ubiquity a word is that a real word did
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I just make that up that's a real word okay they'll allow it lewis isn't he's not grimacing he
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doesn't look angry he hasn't cracked his knuckles so that's a good sign but once this feature is everywhere all these AI
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systems will be getting images uploaded all the time and they're going to just get smarter and smarter and smarter and
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smarter by the way total tangent but I I've been trying to figure out and use these AI systems and I'm actually
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figuring out some cool use cases for them well I guess a a question if I could interject here for a moment please
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do interject away have you used visual intelligence on your iPhone at all no a feature that is very you actually have
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that does exactly what you've been asking i know I I should actually try it more often i just I I have found that
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Apple intelligence to be kind of a misnomer it doesn't actually seem to be that
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useful but I should try that out of all the features that they have included in Apple intelligence I feel like that
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actually would be something that would be useful so I I should I should try it more i've been trying more of the like
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more common AI systems like perplexity um chat GPT um
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uh uh midjourney midjourney by the way is just like for image creation is just totally bonkers there's all sorts of
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stuff going around right now about some of some of the recent updates that have happened in the AI space but you're right i should I should focus more on
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the Apple intelligence i kind of gave up on it to be honest with you like when I first played around with it and I was
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like this is not really that useful um but I should give it another go were you
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going to say something Louis well uh yeah uh that visual intelligence thing is pretty good i mean it it and it taps
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into Google image search right and and I think chat GBT it uh it taps into Apple
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Maps so you can like just take a picture of a restaurant and like look up the menu and review while you're walking
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down the street how do you actually invoke this feature where where do you find it where does it control you you
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click and hold the side button to activate Siri you click and hold the camera control to activate visual intelligence so it's kind of you click
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and hold either of them wait sorry so click click and hold the camera control yep yeah and then you point the camera
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at something then you can either tap the button or you can click it click it again see
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that's just turning the video on for me it just makes it so I must have turned that off by accident well you can't have
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the camera open to open visual intelligence i didn't I
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didn't I just pressed the um camera control button i held it down and immediately what it does is it starts
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taking a video so You might have might have it turned off or something yeah I was going to say I may have accidentally like fine-tuned
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that button um without realizing what I was doing so we're going to say Louis
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I'm not trying to fix well you can tell it's working because the the like sort of you
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know what do you call it i mean this like animation will kind of go over your screen kind of like the animation that
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happens when you invoke Siri or when you cut out something out of a photo using whatever that clipping feature is called
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um and then it it pops up a little thing it says you know search and uh you know
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it dude i have it turned on press and hold press and hold and hold to open visual
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intelligence that's what I'm doing it is a little bit tricky sometimes i mean maybe you have to do it from that time
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it works yeah like you press and hold and you click it again when you after you point it at what you want to that's what
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invokes it um and you know the other day you know speaking of Apple intelligence
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I used the writing tools to rewrite something and uh you know what it did a fairly decent job you know I didn't run
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it verbatim the way it was but I it it gave me it restructured this thing that
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needed some restructuring that I was just tired of staring at it took amongst
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uh I would say non-technical friends the one Apple intelligence feature among the people who have the new iPhones use the
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most is Genoji yeah well that was kind of obvious from the get-go I think I can
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understand why okay I just tried visual intelligence okay I'm going to start I'm going to start using that more often i
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It seems pretty rudimentary like I just took some pictures of some things around my office here and it basically just did
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like an image search on Google it's like "Hey here are images that are similar." It's like "Okay well I'm not sure how
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useful that is." But I mean it does certain things right i mean if you point it at a plant it's going to tell you
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what kind of plant it is if you point it at a And I haven't done this but like if you point at a concert
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flyer it's you know it might even buy tickets for you without you asking
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what I really like about it is that it's just like a nicer interface than using the default camera app for stuff like
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translating text or like live text or like copying phone numbers out of a
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sticker or a piece of paper or stuff like that like the visual intelligence interface is just like nice a nicer dedicated place for all that extra stuff
39:48
that they shove into the camera app yeah interesting okay well oh speaking of the
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cameras though yeah what a segue another new story what what a segue wow
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who Who's it going to it's going to me oh nice iphone 17 Pro's upgraded cameras could
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enable 8K video recording this year Chinese leaker fixed focus digital who I
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don't think we've heard of a lot before that Apple will add 8K recording support
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to the iPhone 17 series which could lead to a noticeable jump in video quality well jump in video resolution i don't
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know about quality uh the leaker has fairly accurate track record with Apple leaks apparently uh this rumor goes well
40:32
with another report from late February which claimed the iPhone 17 Pro will feature upgraded video recording
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capabilities but that previous report didn't really explain what that meant uh now we might might know apple reportedly
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wants video creators and bloggers to replace their dedicated cameras with iPhones while you might think that the
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jump from 4K to 8K doubles video resolution that's actually not the case it leads to a 4x increase in pixels
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resulting in sharper and more detailed videos each frame from an 8K video has a resolution of like over 33 megapixels so
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uh yeah big jump in u resolution there rumors suggest the iPhone 17 Pro will switch to a 48 megapixel 5x telephoto
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shooter ditching the current 12 megapixel sensor and so with all three rear lenses being at 48 megapixels that
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could be what enables this feature in the first place so yeah big big jump in resolution i think personally I don't
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think 8K is necessary like may maybe this is going to be a
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dated opinion but I really think that 4K is like all the resolution you'll really need on pretty much any screen size
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until you get to fully immersive VR but like if you're 8K televisions have to be
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absolutely gigantic and you need your sofa to be like right up to them to even tell the difference i don't think 8K is
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especially necessary i mean what it does what 8K does do is it gives you more room for zooming and cropping but who
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actually wants to take like an 8K resolution video that would just be ridiculous i mean I agree with you i I I
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almost said the same thing i don't want to sound critical because I feel like when Apple releases features like this we're like who would need this it's like
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Thunderbolt 5 who would need this but it's something that is very
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future future facing right i mean 4K is not even ubiquitous at this point it's
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actually shocking how long it's taken for 4K to become widely used and for
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streaming services to support it it's like still an option in many streaming services you have to pay extra to stream
42:36
in 4K people don't have 4K monitors you know there's there's unless you have a
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5K display you have no way to even watch 4K videos on your Apple devices even
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though Lewis you may not know this this that point I disagree with that point I
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disagree with because all you need is a monitor that's greater than 1080p to appreciate the extra resolution sure but
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to take full advantage of 4K is not easy to do and all these people are taking 4K
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videos they can't even watch their 4K content in any normal person in any way
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that a normal person would be able to access what do you mean like bringing it up on a 15-inch MacBook Pro that's a
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normal use that's a normal way that people watch but there's no for there's no 4K displays on 15 there is a 4K it
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does have a 4 okay it might not be quite 4K but it's still higher than 1080p which is barely even a quarter of the
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screen sure but my point you just made my point for me is you're No I did not
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i'm not making I'm arguing your point you're thinking that 1080p is all people should be recording their videos in well
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then people are going to have crummy lowresolution videos for the rest of That's not That's That's not my point my point is is that Apple allows you to
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take 4K videos and does not provide you a way to actually watch 4K content unless you buy a 5K display that's the
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only way you can actually appreciate the entirety of the 4K that you're paying for as a feature and that you're paying
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for to store in iCloud there's no way to actually watch it so like yes will will it look better does 4K content look
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better on displays that are higher than 1080p yeah but you don't actually get to see the entire resolution that you're
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paying for that's that's my only point and now we're talking about 8K and it's like well you haven't even supported 4K
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and now we're moving on to 8K so like 8K is like this very I would say esoteric feature that although it sounds cool
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there's hardly a television or display on Earth that can actually utilize that content so it's very very future facing
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like On the other hand so is log video and Apple added that to the pro iPhones sure like maybe if they add this I
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guarantee if they add 8K it would only be to the pro iPhones and it would probably stay only a pro iPhone feature
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for like maybe five years at least like because again normal people don't need
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8K you know but you know this is this they're trying to turn the iPhone into a like pro cinema quality camera i don't
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know actually I think I'm talking myself back around into it 8k that actually would be a pretty neat pro camera
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feature it would be a great pro camera feature yeah I I think that's that that's the angle there right is if
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you're actually using your iPhone for any kind of professional production but how many people actually do that i don't
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know that anyone uses an iPhone for making any kind of content beyond maybe
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stuff from YouTube i know you I know you can do it i mean Apple does it in their
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commercials and in the in their keynotes and stuff like it is possible but the amount of extra production equipment you
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would need takes it's not like you can use an iPhone for produ professional production without spending a lot of
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money iphone that's all you need like I I mean I'm I'm sure eventually
45:46
they'll be filming Silo and you know all their other shows just with an iPhone you know an iPhone 20 that's literally
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all you'll need i mean a lot a lot of people editing them on an iPad lot of aspiring filmmakers who can't afford like a gigantic like red camera who want
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to learn how to how to edit log video or want to learn how to like edit 8K video
46:05
but you know can't rent a DLSR and they just have an iPhone they already have an
46:10
iPhone then you know they can they can practice this stuff out i I bet they use it a lot in film schools yeah they might
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and colleges and I'm not complaining about this i think it's cool that Apple's adding better features and 8K
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video would be useful if you want to have like the absolute most feature- proof video that you can have especially
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if you're family so maybe you can't use it now but like you know in 10 years when 8K 8K televisions are a thing it's
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like now you you're ready right like you've been taking 8K video but the storage space is going to be totally insane and Apple's probably just in fact
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part of me part of me thinks that Apple's releasing this
46:44
feature so that people are like "Oh I'll turn on 8K." And it's like wait a second I'm out of iCloud storage space don't you worry don't you worry we have a easy
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answer for you we have a solution for you seamless solution so I actually read
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somebody I I actually read a theory I think a while ago that uh the reason the camera plateau on the rear of the iPhone
47:05
17 Pro is going to be so much bigger is to fit like a much lar is to fit the
47:10
much larger 48 megapixel sensor for the telephoto lens like you know the the sensor the I don't know what do you call
47:17
it the the tetroprism design like periscope camera whatever to fit the much larger sensor they're going to have
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to like stretch out that extra space you know to the to the right of the the
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telephoto lens and that's why it's going to be shaped like that which kind of makes sense interesting well we got to
47:35
move it on here since we got like 20 minutes left and I want to make sure we work in some listener voicemails I just wanted to touch on this last story here
47:41
real real quick because uh I finally decided this week no joke that I was gonna sell my AirPods Max i just don't
47:47
use them they're great i just don't use them though and I was like "Okay I should just sell these." And and right
47:54
as I was making that decision of course TC decides to drop this big AirPods Max
48:01
update which actually doesn't help me because this update is only coming to the newer USBC model AirPods Max but
48:09
what it will do is further tank the resale value of my current AirPods Max
48:15
with the lightning port i don't know why it took them so long to do this but and and I I'm a man ahead of my time i made
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a YouTube video about AirPods Max probably like three years ago that said these these headphones are capable of so
48:29
much that you can't actually accomplish like it it makes me think that Apple is going to be updating them in some way or
48:35
connecting them to some kind of like high fidelity streaming service because what can you do they they give you this
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professional hardware but you can't actually get the signal that you need to take advantage of like what Apple is
48:45
building in from a hardware perspective well here you go surprise lossless audio coming to AirPods Max with USBC
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apple plans to add 24-bit 48 kHz lossless audio and ultra low latency
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audio to AirPods Max via a free software update next month however users will
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only be able to take advantage of the premium audio features when using a wired connection so Apple's now selling a USBC to 3.5 millimeter um audio
49:15
connector i don't know how much it costs it cost It's in the show notes if you read those it's $39 i didn't bother oh
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39 bucks there it is okay yeah so it's going to make the new AirPods
49:29
Max you know the professional it's going to give them the audio quality that we
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have always hoped for them to have i was thinking that they would add this via Wi-Fi at some point well it's
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interesting maybe that connection is too the AirPods with the H2 chip support
49:46
wireless audio like high high fidelity audio because like the H2 chip has advanced smarts that goes beyond the
49:52
Bluetooth spec and has a higher like transmission rate over like a custom Wi-Fi thing but because the updated
49:58
AirPods Max are exactly the same as the old AirPods Max on the inside they still have the H1 these headphones that cost
50:05
over twice as much don't have that feature it is so strange and so yeah so now you
50:11
have to use like this $40 cable instead to get the feature that you would get
50:16
with the H anyway also this is another perplexing part of the story the USBC
50:21
version of the AirPods Max didn't support wired mode until this update
50:26
still has yet to drop so the your old Lightning AirPods Max can work over wired if you just plug in you know
50:33
lightning to headphones the new ones didn't do that they still always had it worked wireless wirelessly it's probably
50:39
because they didn't have an adapter that you could use like they were just waiting for the development of the adapter because like the the lightning adapter has like a like an audio digital
50:46
converter chip inside right so this must too i mean the neat thing about the cable is that um it it works you know
50:52
plugging your USBC AirPods Max into like a turntable but it also works if you plug the USBC end into an iPhone or iPad
50:59
and plug the output into a speaker so one one Apple cable can do both of those things if you want to play sounds out of
51:06
a speaker from your phone think this this whole thing is so strange i I really just don't understand what's
51:11
going on with AirPods Max anyway it makes the AirPods Max capable of what the hardware has well always been
51:18
capable of well to a certain degree I guess not from a connection standpoint and just to kind of make my my point
51:25
about the AirPods the original AirPods Max more clear you have like this top tier audio inside the headphones
51:33
themselves but you're using Bluetooth which which is not a high fidelity connection so you have the hardware
51:39
which is capable of providing the higher level audio quality but they have no way
51:44
of getting the audio into the actual headphones i guess you can connect it with the adapter but no way to do it
51:49
wirelessly the whole thing is very strange and is one of the reasons why I stopped using my AirPods Max i'm like
51:55
these are basically just like a bigger heavier version of AirPods um that that could sound better and and probably do
52:02
sound better to be fair but don't have the actual wireless connection
52:07
capability to deliver the high quality fidelity the the high fidelity audio that you would need to actually take
52:13
advantage of the hardware the whole thing is very strange man um in any case I'm sure my AirPods Max Lightning
52:19
versions will probably be worth like $100 less now but I think it's time to sell them they've just been sitting
52:25
sitting in my drawer and the battery just keeps getting degraded because I keep not charging it so I think it's
52:30
time to let them go quick man sell them now i'm going to before word gets out
52:35
yeah oh man speaking of um uh word getting out and you were talking about
52:40
this earlier Griffin just kind of briefly about you know how expensive it is to buy cameras and and people using
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iPhones and stuff so massive news out of RED this week they have like this camera
52:53
that I've always completely coveted called the Red Komodo which is a 6K
52:59
camera with like the red image quality which I think is one of the best that you can get like it has an image that
53:04
you just cannot copy like when I see a video that uses a Red camera I can tell because the dynamic range is just out of
53:10
this world it looks so epent and ethereal it's like like the image looks
53:16
incredible and this week last year they dropped the price on the Komoto it's a 6K camera like I said uh $1,000 to
53:24
$5,000 this week they dropped the price $2,000 so the Red Komodo is now $3,000
53:31
which is still a lot of money but for the level of image quality you get out of that camera is absolutely probably
53:37
one of the best values you can get in cameras and I was on eBay just looking
53:43
at people trying to sell their Kimos who hadn't heard the news yet that the price drop had happened right so like they're trying to get like 4500 bucks $5,000 for
53:51
like their red komodo and I'm like "Oh bro you haven't heard the news red's
53:58
undercutting you you can now get a brand new Red Kimoto for $3,000 and you're trying to sell yours for $4,500 used so
54:05
there's gonna be a lot of unhappy people who we're trying to cut loose their cameras and now have to drop the price i
54:11
mean what's your camera worth now if Red sells them brand new for 3,000 yours is maybe worth 2,300 bucks maybe like so
54:18
you just lost like over $2,000 in value in an instant what are you gonna say Griffin i'm looking at a picture on B&H
54:24
Photo if you showed this object to I think maybe most people maybe the last
54:30
thing they would guess that it is is camera it I don't know how I would describe this thing it it's first of all
54:35
it's just completely cube shaped uh it doesn't have anything on it really resembling a camera the back of it has
54:42
two levers and 12 arrows surrounding them i don't know what it's uh those
54:50
those aren't levers they are um like tension springs to keep the battery in place yeah mounting something i don't
54:56
know it doesn't even have like really normal camera ports on it that I can
55:01
tell it doesn't have no screen whatsoever this is an interesting so this camera was originally made to be a like a Hollywood crash camera so like a
55:09
small high resolution high dynamic range camera that they could put in a car that they're going to like drive off a cliff
55:14
or something and because the image quality is so unbelievably exquisite it
55:20
started getting an audience of just regular content creators who are like you know $6,000 is a lot of money but like you know I can afford a $6,000
55:27
camera now once you build it all out this is like just like the like the brain of like the camera like there's other parts that you would need to buy
55:33
in addition to this but it wasn't you know an airy camera which is what they use in Hollywood are what like $150,000
55:39
right like the really nice red cameras are 50 60 $70,000 so a $5,000 camera is
55:46
like for like a Hollywood director or or a DP or something is kind of something
55:53
that you wouldn't mind destroying I would imagine and now that 3,000 bucks I mean even I thought about buying one and
55:59
I might I might buy one used we'll see how how low they go cuz this camera has like an absolutely magical look to it
56:06
your return to YouTube with your one video after uh the two and a half years yeah yeah they'll be shot in 6K i think
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I think that's what I'm missing that's that's a thing that I think I need in order to get the video out the door you know and is going to be worthy of the M4
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Max the completely maxed out Max that I bought just another step as you have to learn and buy a bunch of accessories for
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a cinematic camera yeah and color grading stuff yeah it'll be out in no time all right look that's all the Apple
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news we have for this week uh but we're going to continue on we got some some more voicemails from our listeners if
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you want to send us a voicemail we're going to be playing these on future shows speakpipe.com/cultast
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speakpipe.com/cultcast the link will be in the show notes if you want to send us an audio clip i have not listened to
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these audio clips at all oh jeez man that's they can be horrendously offensive and full of all sorts of
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expletives that we can't play on the show and if they are I'm going to hit the panic button and we'll and we'll eject the audio clip so we still have a
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way but these ones I haven't even listened to so should we go ahead and try to Here's that sense of danger that
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I was saying that does not exist in pre-anned shows this is Oh my god I'm on edge they would never do this in an
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Apple keynote we are We are on the edge so this one is
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from Ben King the actor I believe so Ben Kingsley he's
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a big fan oh Kingsley right yeah um should we go ahead and play this Ben this better be good here we go
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hi this is Ben calling from I was like is this guy trolling us is he just
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making mouth noises or something nope just a couple seconds to get going didn't he send in an audio clip in last week i think he did ben from Spokane
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all right let's hope it's not the same one let's continue spokan again uh you did an excellent job with the podcast
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thank you Ben and I do want to let you know that uh I have comes uh two AI
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podcasts for you to check out okay uh one of them is AI inside with uh Jeff
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Jarvis and Jason How and then the other is intelligent machines with Leo Leaport
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Jeff Jarvis and Paris Martino okay and both of those are excellent
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i'm starting to think that Ben might be AI some kind of a representation thing
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going on there what's Ben get that mic fixed next time I see audio coming in from Ben i'm actually going to listen to
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it first all right there's your free plug stole his phone it was just like snacking the microphone or something there it sounds like he was like eating
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lunch or something i'm not sure okay well thank you for those tips Ben it is hard to find good resources for AI and
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like I said the pace of AI updates is absolutely frantic i mean it's just
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there's stuff every week and things are changing so quickly it's just unbelievable how fast AI systems are
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improving and their capabilities are improving it's just mind-blowing okay one more this one's from Dean good old
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Dean hey guys this is Dean from Jolly Old
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England hello i thought I'd give a message out to you guys and say um if What do you do um what I mean by that is
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what's your what would you say you do here who's your daddy and what does he do i ask myself that every week
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all right sorry let's keep going you're not listed as a writer are you a
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co-owner um I must have missed that people making YouTube videos you say
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eventually no idea you've got the cult cloth yeah so who are you and what do
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you do although I've been listening to you guys for absolute years you've you've never mentioned it
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once to my knowledge in all the time I've been listening anyway I love the podcast um thanks a lot
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obviously international man of mystery that's what that's what I thought by the way that that question
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sounded a little bit like the uh the doge you know to write down five things you've done this week i think this guy
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sent me an email earlier this week i didn't get back to him no big mistake on
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that you know he he kind of sounded like Charlie Surell i thought I thought it actually might be Charlie trying to
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troll us for that question because it sounded so much like Charlie um okay
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well I appreciate the question i don't know that I could go into vast detail here but I'll give like the quick fly
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over so I used to be a writer with Coltac this was years and years and years ago and also you know started the
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podcast with Leander have stopped writing since then although I kind of miss it to be honest with you like I did
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like the writing it's so timeconuming and I'm such a perfectionist that it
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just took me a long time to put together pieces and I but I do kind of miss it um and the audio podcast has just kind of
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endured i mean I'm not doing anything really with with cult aside from this what do I do for for work well I have
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the the cult cloth obviously which is basically like my own version of like a US mint but if you want to know what I
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do I won't get into it now i am in the tech space and I did a full we did a full um
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um Coltcast off-topic episode where I talk exactly about this maybe we could
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link to it griffin it was probably not that many episodes ago the title of it
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there's an off topics thing what what is this you tell me more i mean it was only like two episodes ago considering we
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haven't done one in like six weeks or eight weeks i'm not even sure how long it's been much to my shame um but if you
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want to know exactly what I do I would I would direct you to that episode because we go on about it for like what 10 minutes or something and I talk all
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about it and kind of give like the full story of which I'm not going to do now obviously because we don't have enough
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time but I do have a regular job which you know just like many of you has to
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pay the bills and um and then we kind of just do this for well I would say for
1:02:25
fun at this point like a fun side project but it's fun it's like hanging out with your
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friends and just talking about tech and where else do you get to do that especially as you get older you know it's like when you have a job and
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responsibilities and stuff and you're not in college anymore it's like where can you go and just hang out and talk to friends about this kind of stuff and uh
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you know we all live in different states so we're never going to actually get together anyway at any point unless we
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make that Disneyland trip happen which I would love to do i got to get one of those red cameras i'll bring one with us
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i I mean we could have all met at WWDC if I got an invitation and you weren't traveling to Florida inexplicably if
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they sent us all invitations to WWDC I would definitely go do Do I see that happening i don't know i feel like we
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might be too occasionally critical or maybe too spicy for Apple's liking like
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I think they want people who are reliably predictable in the types of exposition they provide about Apple
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and you have to really about that i mean like a third of ATP is awfully critical about Apple a lot of the time and they
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get invit invitations oh really okay so so maybe that's not maybe that assessment is not correct and I mean granted if all of us got invitations I
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mean Lewis wouldn't be able to go to the event at Apple Park because he'd be too busy as editor you know pulling all 12
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of his remaining hairs out that's not true you're not counting as goatee but okay that's fair but like you
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know you and I could pal around Apple Park oh man i would love to go i I don't know what it would take i I I don't know
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what it is maybe we just annoy them maybe I just annoy them i don't know what it is about about I I've never been
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invited i know Coltto Mack has been in the past and I can't say anything about it but but but Leander has had some
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pretty prestigious encounters with Apple in the past that we don't talk about here because it wouldn't be appropriate
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to do so so and I I I don't know what you need to do to get invited does does
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Mac rumors or 9to5 Mac get invited i don't think that 9 to5 does but I could be wrong i can't keep track of I know
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he's Does he okay okay um and I wonder if anyone from Mac Rumors goes Oh isn't
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he from Isn't he from 9 to5 chance Miller or is he 9 or is he Mac rumors or 9 to5 he's 9 to5 okay i can't even keep
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these people straight anymore cult of Mac Rumors cult of 9 to5 Mac rumors is that
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what it was all right well look go there i don't know what we have to do but we should try to make that happen i would
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love to make a trip to Apple Park if that's possible if anyone's listening to this has any poll I will be on my best
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behavior you know we'll we'll read the notes that were provided you know please
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I'll be a good boy yeah yeah i I should reemphasize the reason we do this is because we love Apple so much so we're
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not doing it for any other reason other than that and I feel like we've done this long enough where maybe we should
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be considered for tickets to the I mean just by the objective metrics we're one
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of the top Apple podcasts that is true and to your point we are one of the top tech podcasts so which we never which we
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never actually talk about so I don't really know why we don't get invited i I
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think it's got to be like the zany sense of humor i really think that's got to be it like and we're not developers they
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seem to really like developers and they like people to be like a little bit more dry and less spicy i I I I don't know i
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don't know what is but it will have to be something that we save for our future off topic
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because that's it that's all the time we have this weekend looks like my camera just turned off no signal i have
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absolutely no idea what just happened but good timing uh okay and we'll go to Griffin all right that's it that's all
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the guests we have for you guys this week but you know what the party never ends
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if you want to come join the very exclusive cult club you can go to cult of995mm rumors.com uh
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support.thecult.com uh this has been the cold cast the best 30 plus minute out the conversation
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you're going to hear all week long new episodes of the cold cast come out every Thursday night i want to thank everyone for listening and for hanging out live
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and we will see you [Music] guys next time man what time
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is what oh you know what you know what just happened you unplugged it the battery on my camera died i forgot to
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plug it in [Music]
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well that's why we don't get the invites stuff like that happens that's They're like "This guy
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can't even keep his battery charged." All right everyone i'm going to fade out the music
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now it's weird hearing your voice and not seeing your face i'm so used to seeing your face now you're disembodied
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it's actual AI [Music]
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