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Mark your calendars for Sept. 9th, friends, cause iWatch is nigh! Plus, an insanely accurate iPhone 6 leak hits Youtube; the apps we use to send our friends and family money, why everyone’s buzzing about Hyperlapse, rumors of a 12.9-inch iPad resurface, we discuss some listener feedback; and privileged apps that live in our menu bars.
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that was a great presentation you made in there do you know I put together that entire project including the
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presentation slides just this morning had your whole department working on it huh no I used my new Lisa personal
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computer a personal computer did all of that that's right
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incredible hello and welcome to the goast the best 30 plus minute Apple
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conversation you're going to hear all week long I'm your host aifon Elijah and if that information right there isn't
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enough to make you tune out I'm also joined by Leander the key and Buster the
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welcome guys hey I think we just lost half our audience now they know who's going to be on this show but you should
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don't we later on what's that surprise guest do we have a surprise guest no I just said that just oh yeah we uh we're
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g to have Tim Cook on at the end of the show so make sure you stay tuned for that you'll be joined by Johnny IV and
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uh you know Steve Jobs will be here too so stay got a a medium but we're going to
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do a sound do sounds for the ghost of Steve Jobs uh we do actually have a lot
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of great stuff to talk about hot off the press um I watch news to to discuss and
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I thought we'd do some chat about some apps that have come out or have been updated this week and then at the end of
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the show we're going to do something that I thought would be fun so we're going to talk about the items that live in our menu bars that little menu bar
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the top of your screen you only have a limited amount of real estate up there and I was curious what you guys have
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deemed important enough to keep in your menu bar I know I've got a bunch of stuff crammed in mind so we'll talk
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this is hot hot off the press this just came out so Buster it looks like recode
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just announced that the iatch the long rumored eyewatch mystical as a unicorn
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dancing on a rainbow rainbow that's how mystical this thing is is going to debut on September 9th
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along with the iPhone six isn't recode confirming this pretty much this is
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going to happen yeah they were the ones that said it was going to come out in October 1 and now they say it's uh going
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to come out at the same time as the iPhone 6 do you think Apple PR just contacts them and just is like hey uh
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just heads up you guys need some traffic today cuz I got for you I think that's
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how it goes hello this is recode uh yeah this
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is uh Jim Rook I want to tell you about an eyewatch leak it's happening who is this
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by click they don't get this from Apple PR there's no way you don't think so
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Leander I thought some of these organizations had like direct links too well they do but I mean they're pretty
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well sourced as well ins ofle besides just the PR department this is exciting
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so not only are we going to see a iPhone 6 come September 9th but also the
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eyewatch I also thought it was interesting today I got an email um actually several emails from some
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companies that are releasing head buds or earbuds that will take your pulse when you wear them this is something we
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talked about forever ago it was rumored to be uh ear pods rumor right yes the ear pods rumor so that you would wear
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these and they would actually keep track of your pulse while you worked out and stuff so I thought it was very curious
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that these emails came in today with the iPhone 6 about to be released because it
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makes me think oh maybe this is a feature that we'll actually see which would be really awesome I mean do you
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guys work out with your earbuds in I do and I hate it really yeah why been wear
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one of those like heartbeat monitors well yeah okay it would be for heartbeats yeah it would be interesting
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but I just mine are always like they always like out and stuff like that when I go jogging with them dang you must
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sweat a lot oh I sweat like have you seen how hairy I am you need to get some
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more like ear hair though so it keeps the sweat out of those things I've have the same I swear I have like my iPod one
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headphones and they still work huh oh I must I mean I perspire they were pretty solid though
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uh I'm I think I'm lying I don't think I still have them but I have my like you know iPhone phones from like 4 years ago
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and they still work great even though I put them through the washer like six times so they could go through the
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washing machine which is actually full of water but not through Buster's ears cuz I got some nasty funk in my
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sweat man um I'm excited for the iPhone 6 you guys I'm assuming you guys are all
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going to buy it nah I'm GNA skip this one no you're not Leander leander's waiting for them to
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reach to release the I headband that's more style High head manand yeah has a
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screen on the forehead but it's like you know very plush cotton so absorbs your perspiration and it has yeah like a um a
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little tpay built into the top of it right you like a spiky
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haircut it reads your uh internal body temperature you can use your iPhone to
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to adjust the length so if you are going to like a classy event you can make it longer and
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Slick it back right or there's a mullet option too the eye mullet um along the
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lines of Juicy rumors man I think we probably got the best iPhone 6 rumor or
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uh leak I should say that we've ever seen Buster would you agree with me definitely the medius iPhone 6 Le so for
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sure the medius I mean there was some real meat in this rumor I couldn't believe it so um this guy got his hands
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I don't know how he accomplished this this guy got his hands on the on the iPhone 6 way ahead of time and he posted
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a YouTube video knock knock who's there it's your boy Doo 411 today we got an exclusive first look at the brand new
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iPhone 6 and he does like a tear down he Compares it to like the the current
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iPhone and I got to say this thing looks amazing oh very spelt yeah you know I
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was surprised it was a little bit thicker though than we anticipated slightly plumper yeah but you know a
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little bit more flexible the H plumps when it gets hot too yeah too yeah just as a
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warning and the case he so he had a case as well and the case was I mean this is
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Apple at its best I think yeah very minimalist very very minimalist it was
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like a a a wood grain gradient paneling or something like that but it was very well padded yeah and I liked I liked how
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you could open it up from the side and put the iPhone in there uhhuh that that was a really slick design I thought I
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had to break up the little Loke party but what are you guys talking about you didn't see the video that leaked this this week but or later oh my gosh okay
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so if you haven't seen it we're going to post a link in the actual show notes and
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um it will take you the video so you can watch it if you haven't seen it absolutely go check it out because I'm telling you this is what is going to be
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announced on uh September 9th I mean here it is and I'm super excited and
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this guy does like a full review of it I like I said he even takes it a part and shows you the inside and stuff so
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definitely go check that out all right um let's talk about some
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apps Buster I noticed that you sent me five bucks yesterday oh shoot I did yeah
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a to that by the way sucker you think you're getting one returned it's not going to happen it's okay I got free
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sign up money we um we got an update to an app called square cash this week and
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if you're not familiar with square cash it's a free application that you can download it comes from the company Square who has like the Square card
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reader and actually the reason I wanted to talk about this is because I think square cash is awesome Buster have you used it before or was that your first
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time yesterday that was my first time and it was just super simple I mean it was so easy to use I I really did like
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you know not it it was super easy I sent people money on accident it's so easy so
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wait a second did you send me that money on accident slightly maybe I was wondering why I got a payment for five
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bucks from you I was like why is Buster sending me money in the middle of the day well I was testing it yeah so why is
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it easier than uh PayPal it's way easier than I mean you seriously just open up the app hit the amount of money you know
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you want on the front first screen select the person and then it sends it to them just super easy very like
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minimal clean UI very very minimal and it what the way it works is um once you
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link your debit card to it and your friend links their debit card to it you can send money back and forth and the best part is is is there are no fees
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it's absolutely free yeah so it only does Bank transfers so you can't use credit cards but you know like with
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PayPal Leander they always ask you your intention like why are you sending this money and if you're not sending it to
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like a friend or family member then they want to cut of it yeah and square doesn't take a cut of it as long as it's
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just you know cash going back and forth bank to bank yeah I hate PayPal and I've ha them for a long time but you know I'm
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stuck with them I think they're uh I think they're in big trouble with square yeah I think Square everything they do
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it's usually Just Like A Cut Above so much easier I I heard they lose 25 cents per transaction with square cash but
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they just don't care yeah because you know they have to move that money so it does cost them something but they're not
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charging users well we should also talk about um the updates to this version of square cash so what were the big updates
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to this Buster I see oh you can use a friend's phone number to send money now and or email address that's new you can
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yeah you can request money from like 25 people at one time there's like an activity feed um and you get push
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notifications when your money's ready from you know all your dead beat friends the only thing I like about square is
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it's actually you generally it's in instantaneous so if you send someone a payment you get the payment right away as long as you're with a bank that's you
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know keeping their systems updated like I think Bank of America takes like a couple days but like my credit union is
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like instantaneous as soon as you send me the money it shows up there immediately yeah so if you are looking for a uh an app that that sends money
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easily to your friends and family I mean square cash is a great great option as we said it's free um the only thing I
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wish they would allow you to do is add multiple debit cards so right now you can only really use one account for
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sending and receiving money M it'd be cool like if I could have like several debit cards you know set up so like if
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you need to make a business payment you can use it for that if you need to make a personal payment you could use it for that that's the only thing I would add
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to it Lander you should download Square or square cash give it a try I did yeah yeah I got um a link from Buster
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yesterday so they give you a dollar too right yeah you yeah I got send you some
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money yeah maybe we could use square cash um yeah uh so I think it's better
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than PayPal and that there are no fees and stuff they just raise a bunch of money too as well they just and uh plus there was all that speculation they put
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out the don't worry about us we're doing great kind of um blog post right which caused a lot of
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attention Square I put out a blog post I think it was like a couple of weeks ago it was like PL reasons why Square isn't
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as much trouble as people are saying it is and and then it had all these kind of um strange um it was like an SEC
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disclosure notice like all all these different things that they're worried about that they really aren't worried about huh uh and so there was a lot of
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speculation that square was like in a in more trouble in trouble but then they just raised a bunch of cash that was probably PayPal
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PR yeah or orchestrating it like a PR attack on them because they're I mean
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they're in such danger of losing business to square I find that people are hesitant to adopt Square you know when it comes to sending money to other
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people and they have to like download an app and sign up like people are generally hesitant to do it but once we
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all get on this kind of platform it makes it so much easier to do because you know sending money is a huge pain in
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the ass if you need to send someone money I mean it's 2014 it's still so painful to do I mean leand you and I
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were just talking about this the other day it's like it's like hey should we do PayPal should we do bank transfer it's always a giant pain are do you guys
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primarily use PayPal as of now Lander what do you use yeah PayPal you use PayPal isn't it painful though when you
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get like a th000 bucks from Pain pal or pain pal hey right that's a Freudian
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slip right there right and they take like 40 bucks of it oh I've had them
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take hundreds of dollars before in transfers which I don't even really know about cuz they didn't look at the thing properly mhm pin power CU it's never very clear
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who pays the fee I always thought I was they always OB it's always the receiver okay so then I've had to reimburse
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people I've sent you know money to abroad cuz I was doing all the payroll for all the you know the foreign contractors PayPal and and the foreign
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stuff is even worse because their fee is higher for foreign stuff yeah right so the receiver is always the one that gets
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it hey you're totally breaking up by the way it's a fuzz first all right sorry guys we're back
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looks like uh freaking time machine time machine really needs a feature where you can be like pause it for two minutes or
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five minutes or 20 minutes don't you just turn it off doesn't that wouldn't that do it does I thought that deleted your backup when you turn it off oh
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maybe be true am my that can't be true try it let us know I don't have time
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machine so my time machine came on and started hogging all the ban withd and this is a problem every time we record the show because you can't turn it off
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and time machine does what it wants you still time machine I do what I want yeah
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you can turn it off I just turn it off go to system preferences and turn it off I don't believe your lies let's try this
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open Time Machine preferences turn it off hey look at that it turned
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off wait why does it say uh backup deletion in process plus plus all it's counting down
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from 60 Leander what's going on no no no the mysteries of the Macintosh okay well
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uh let's continue let's talk about another cool app sounds even worse now does it so does that did that improve
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the audio quality y check che check yeah I think you're better dude I wonder if Comcast is is uh throttling me because
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of all the crap I talk about on this show probably and like they found me and they're like we're going to make this
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guy life a living hell well I heard you talking about in the pre-show and that that word you going to talk about on the real show you're like sitting outside of
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my house in a van connected do that you know they listen to everything say anyway yeah right they're sitting there
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with the NSA taking notes yeah okay so it's better now yeah okay guys let's talk about another new app that came out
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this week that I played around with I thought it was really fun Buster it's called hyperlapse brought to you by the
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people from Instagram is a new app called hyperlapse an app that lets users make incredible time-lapse videos really
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easily hyperlapse it sounds like something that Elon Musk created but it's not wait that was the hyper Loop
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Elon Musk basically says that this is the way of the future he is either a
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Visionary or he's barking mad yeah I totally accidentally Googled hyperloop when looking for hyperlapse vide you're
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like this is amazing wow so you've played around with it what does it do it
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basically helps you do time-lapse videos and then post them to Instagram so they look all cool but here's the thing okay
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okay so you can post on Instagram but aren't there a lot of other apps out there that do time-lapse video why is
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this one getting so much Buzz yeah even Apple added it in the iOS 8 so it'll be in the default camera app but um I think
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it's a pretty good app as far as it gives you a little bit better control because you can control the playback speed you can't do that in ios8 and it's
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just a pretty simple user interface plus it's it's Instagram you know so I think it just has that brand appeal also
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wasn't part of the hype also um it like balances out your shaking this so it
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creates a really smooth video right even if you're not doing uh like a a
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time-lapse video it's a nice app to shoot with if you're doing like sports photography or anything cuz they have
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some crazy yeah stabilization technology algorithm that they have for it h i
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played around with it too it was really fun and we've been seeing these videos like non-stop like the last 48 hours
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yeah my question to you is this going to be the oldest of half
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after like next week is everyone going to be like oh my gosh not another hyperlapse video yeah I don't think I mean I think
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there there'll be like a big jump in everybody doing hyperlapse videos for the next few weeks but then it'll
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probably die back down you know so you don't think this is going to turn into like Vine well Vine actually has gotten
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pretty good right because the only Vines you see now are the ones that people want to share yeah that's true right so it has this kind of filtering mechanism
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so I tend they just they tend to be pretty good yeah Vine's awesome I'm actually surprised that it turned into
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this actual viable social network my guess is that that's kind of what Instagram is going to be trying to do
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with you know hyperlapse at least as far as putting that stuff into the Instagram feed I do think it's a little strange
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that they decided to make their own app to do this because this seems like something that they could have just added in into Instagram don't you think
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Buster yeah they they definitely could have um I think you probably would get
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more people using it with with as a standal app because of whe rather than
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or sorry rather than just tucking it away inside Instagram somewhere you know where no one's going to see it yeah I
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guess Instagram app is already pretty crowded too it does a lot of stuff and I mean there's not too much you can do
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outside of it other than after you're done with the video upload it to Instagram or Facebook and that's it so
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it's pretty pretty much tied right into the app well it's certainly much buzzed if you haven't tried it out it's free
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you can download it on the App Store it's called hyperlapse and it's really wellmade um the only thing I wish they
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would add and maybe I just missed this Buster you can tell me is there any way to use the front-facing camera I don't
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know maybe I don't think there is is that not an option to toggle it I don't think so I was trying to make one
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yesterday of me walking down the street like making kiss oh that would be fun yeah
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yeah are you being seriously Ender no no no I know exactly what you mean so you got your face there and you're looking all Goofy and smile fun yeah you know
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you're saying you can't switch it no there's no way to do it and it's actually kind of tough to do it from the front or the front facing camera because
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you have to hit record and then flip the flip the camera around the button really small and if you hit another place on
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the screen it actually adjusts for lighting you know so like it could be too dark or too bright anyway hyperlapse
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on the App Store check it out yourself um let's move on to I don't understand
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why but let's talk about super sized 12.9 inch iPads
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Buster super iPads you don't want them I I you guys know that my my life motto is
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the bigger the better i' like to go big and then go home but I really I really don't know if I would want a 12.9 in
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iPad according to Bloomberg apple is working on one and they are planning on
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having a release in early 2015 this has been something that the Wall Street Journal has mentioned before Digi times
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has talked about this before so it kind of seems like we have enough smoke here that we may actually end up seeing this
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product and people have also said that you know tablet sales are in the on the decline so maybe Apple needs to like
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spruce up their offering M um I don't know would you guys want a 12.9 in iPad
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it just seems excessive to me yeah I I feel like it's not big enough you know
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if you're going to go big let's go bigger let's go 30 in man
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right yeah um how would you carry that in your arms I mean you'd have to be I
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wouldn't but You' have to be Joe Rogan yeah or you just slap it on a on a TV
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with or on a wall with double-sided tape and use it as a flat screen you know right Leander do you want a 12.9 in iPad
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yeah I think I would go for it yeah you know you you know what it's going to be good for is multitasking when you got a couple of Windows from different apps
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open that's why I think they're doing it so that you can do two things at one time easily yeah right it's you know an
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iOS is getting little you know it's getting much more sophisticated so um you know it this is going to make it
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into like a real laptop replacement I think with all the new capabilities in iOS say like like multitask true
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multitasking actually you know now that I hear you describe it that way and now actually I'm kind of interested in it
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too cuz I was visualizing so you'd have this thing sitting in your lap right and you could split it up into different
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sections so you'd have like a YouTube video in one maybe a browser in another right maybe um you know some
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recipes I don't know the other your recipes that you're really into yeah you
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know for your pot brownies Leander and uh in which case that actually could be
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pretty cool right exactly I think it's going to be great yeah in fact but I'm with Buster too though you know 12. 13
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in is I don't know you know i' be nice to go biger as well but that's going to come as well for sure so now I feel
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stupid like like 12.9 is actually too small yeah I mean you know they're going to have a 17inch one you think so yeah I
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think Buster's 30inch iPad is is actually not a bad idea it would probably by the time we get to that kind
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of like level of Technology it probably only weigh like 2 lbs oh yeah it'll be like a flex
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display and everything too it'll be awesome um let's wrap up on the 12.9 in
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iPad chat unless you guys want to continue Le or anything else to say uh no except
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um um yes that was it it's going to be
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awesome I think the 12.9 one is going to be the new you know just like the new the new the 5.5 in is going to be the
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new sort of standard I think you know the new the hotest size for the uh the iPhone I think the same thing is
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gonna happen with the iPad I think it'll be big for people who want to get like work done on the iPad and feel like they
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have a laptop you know like um I think it'll be huge for people who want to put a keyboard case on it but I don't think
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I don't think it'll appeal as widely as like the regular iPad Air does I think you're right and actually to leander's
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point apple is moving into Enterprise right so they're going to start you know needing to consider more better consider
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the needs of businesses who are going to be things applications that maybe consumers wouldn't be right so maybe
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that's part of their motivation as well yeah it could be the iPad Pro the iPad Pro there you go okay let's talk about
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Tim Cook real fast you guys know I love Tim Cook and Lander I'm actually curious to hear your thoughts on this so a
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report card has come out for Tim Cook and he's gotten a solid B for running
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Apple a big b for not bad I think he's been doing a great job but having
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written the book on Steve Jobs Leander I'm curious do you think the the new directions he's taking Apple as far as
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products um that this new kind of feel of openness that Apple has what do you
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think about the direction he's taking the company I you know it looks great it looks abely fantastic um I think you
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know a b is crazy I mean this is a job that would make anyone flip inside out with anxiety yeah no kidding huh
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especially following Steve Jobs oh my goodness yeah putting his putting putting putting putting on Steve Jobs's uh you know putting us his shoes and
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having to take over the company and Incredibly difficult um the only thing
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yeah it looks you know of course it's an open question right because they haven't got they haven't branched out into any
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of these new product categories and until that happens no one's going to give him no one's going to say he's done a stellar job
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because um this is going to be the biggest test you know for for Apple for him and for Apple going forward is what
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can they can they break into you know open up entirely new businesses um if
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given that they if they do launch and I watch and and these new iPhone 6es what do you mean if we just talked about this
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yeah don't you listen to the show even while we're recording it Leander yeah uh we do but you know I'm not 100%
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convinced I mean there's been absolutely no you know anyway we'll see it seems very likely but I'm with you yeah I'm
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hoping I'm hoping uh you know but you know so far um everything that he's done has is has been almost Pitch Perfect
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really I totally agree with you as far as following the footsteps of one of the most icon CEOs ever I think he's doing a
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great job yeah and he seems to be a bang up guy too like I want to have a cup of tea with him yeah that's going to count
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something his his only weakness really is public presentations is that you know the Keynotes that he's done which have been a bit wooden yeah
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good and everything else I mean he's diffused all this you know he's diffused all these crises in China although that
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seems to be flaring up again mhm um but uh a lot of the the the um the campaigns
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they've been getting behind uh charity Don uh you know matching corporate donations Charities and also being quite
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active in um uh equal rights um uh and
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um you know being inclusive and speaking out about that kind of stuff I like that I think it's really good I think they you know they should really you know
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it's something I really applaud about Apple's openness I mean you're right they're they're involved in
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all these things such as you know political stuff they um seem to be more open to the press and that's definitely
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a different direction for Apple previously and sometimes I I wonder if that's going to hurt them because by
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being so exclusive it it allowed them to kind of M maintain this like really cool reputation because they're so secretive
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and do you think that being more open is going to affect people's interpretation of them well they open about their
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products or their product plans not intentionally here we are talking about the eyewatch and all the
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products they're going to they're going to release but no one but yeah but do you know no one knows what it looks like what it does that is true we have not
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seen a single watch leak no and you know the leaks today was say were saying it was going to be tightly integrated with
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IH home right which is the first stuff I heard about that I mean I hadn't heard about you know being a controller for
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your house mhh but of course that makes a lot of sense right because it'll be you know it'll know whether you're home
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or not and right whether you're up and about and whether you're active you know so that does make a lot of sense but no one's no one's talked about that yeah no
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they don't no one knows anything at all about their product plans um but um you know the sort of so-called openness it
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means you know they're just becoming a a little less insula I've been talking to a um a guy um that was with Apple for
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years and he was complaining how insulate was you know like he worked there for more than a decade and and you know he never got out he never
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socialized anybody never talked to any other companies um and I never got out they locked him in the Apple office he
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literally never left I think more or less that's exactly what it was wow um
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and um he said he was surprised he didn't even know what other companies were out there and you know what was really going on in Silicon at the moment
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I was really flabbergasted I was like you're kidding me but it's that insula huh it would be like working for the NSA
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no one you would never be able to tell anyone what you did or what you were working on yeah yeah absolutely but you
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know when when we went for the visit we went for lunch down at Apple HQ a few weeks ago you know I mean it it uh I
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don't know it didn't seem that insul there was a lot of Outsiders there there was a lot of kids people obviously bringing their families in there was a lot of outside um there was a group a
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couple of groups of um people that you know they all had name badges and they were getting a tour around you know foreign uh uh visiting parties so I
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don't know it's not that insul yeah but leer that was all staged for you those
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were all extras H they hired hundreds of extras to Stage you know like this happy
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environment when actually the real employees were all like they're all pale and locked in the dungeon to their
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computers yeah yeah yeah right so soon as like okay all right okay paid everyone their 25 bucks and let them go
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it was very effective I was totally convinced yeah I'm with you I think I think Tim Cook's doing a great job I was
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surprised to see that he got a B to such a nice guy I really do like that about him is he's bringing kind of like a nice
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face to Apple it's like Steve Jobs would strangle you Tim Cook he'll put his arm
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around you and tell you how it is but then he'll you know shank in the back and then he'll get up behind you
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and get you in a choke hold and and whisper in your ear as you slowly drop to the ground right but he be smiling the whole time
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just like this this right just let it go
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y'all okay um hey before we uh hop into our what we use in our menu bars I do
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software.com cultcast You know guys before we move on to our what we use in our menu bars discussion I thought we
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could do something a little fun so we've been asking for people's feedback and we got some great messages from some
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listeners and I want to thank everyone who sent your messages in we always appreciate when you guys interact with
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us and give us stuff to talk about and I thought this was cool I want to read you this Leander Eric Johnson wrote in um
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about uh our conversation last week and you ended up talking about you ended up
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talking about Ferguson and he said I've been enjoying the show maybe that's too strong of a word JK JK good one Eric
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listening to the show and reading cult to M for about three years and I recently heard Leander mention Ferguson
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and how he wish President Obama would say something more poignant do you remember this discussion Leander ringing a bell he said I could not agree more
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I'm a close resident two blocks away from ground zero and I must say thank you to Leander for being one of the few
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in Tech to publicly recognize what has happened here it's an understatement or uh what President Obama said about the
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situation was an understatement he says thanks for the show I don't you know I I've been actually quite pleased that
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quite a few people have been speaking out about Ferguson some of the people I follow I mean you know guber John grber
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being one um and also Mar arant um he was been getting a lot of um
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Flack you know because he's been tweeting about it a lot he's been really vocal about it and his Twitter feed and he's been you know like people have been
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saying he's yeah he's got a lot of hate for it which which you know I am really you know disturbed by in
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fact you know I think there's been two different reactions to the whole thing the situation in Ferguson and you know one of the reactions I find really
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shameful um you know from the white establishment which I think is doing all the best it can to you know demonize um
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this kid in the situation there well you I don't want to get you know I don't know how political I want to get because yeah well you don't need to say anymore
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if you don't want to but anyway the thing is outrageous I know we always try not to get too political on this show
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but every once in a while you know it's worth mentioning something that's happening in in the world it is nice to be able to talk about this kind of stuff
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every once in a while I want to thank Eric Johnson for his feedback and for getting Leandra to almost go off on a
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tangent because usually it's me and generally it's about Comcast
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Comcast and then I'm like why did I just talk about that for 10 minutes oh that's because I have no self-control and one
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more uh one more comment this one comes from dbg didn't leave a name he says
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congrats on the new site I like the feedback section oh by the way if you want to leave us feedback the cultcast
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docomo handle or don't it's up to you uh he says you guys always talk about Steve Jobs in the next Aaron sorin movie I was
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watching Andrew Garfield and Spider-Man 2 he looks a lot like Steve Jobs he could be the one what do you guys think
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Buster do you know who Andrew Garfield is yeah I watch Spider-Man too hair
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super dreamy great hair seems like a cool guy but he's just crying in every movie and I don't think Steve Jobs ever
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cried man I think he could pull off a crying scene of Steve Jobs didn't Ash Ashton
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kusher had a powerful one remember did he I never watched jobs you never saw the Steve Jobs movie no why it would
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just be as bad as I imagined that's actually a valid point Lander do you know who um Andrew
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Garfield is yeah yeah D he's a British guy is he British yep yeah wow I didn't know that plus he's um he was great in
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The Social Network I thought yeah he was I actually haven't seen any of the new Spider-Mans either so I don't know how he SE I haven't seen him either though I
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just saw some close so this suppos be pretty good but um jobs jobs was always balling he was constantly balling his eyes out yeah seab Buster what he was he
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might be perfect yeah the first time he saw the think different campaign oh my God it was a it was like a it was like
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the niagar Falls there were tears were rolling down his face when he got fired from Apple I was talking to Jay what's
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his face I can't remember the guy that was in the room with him with him and a showdown with um him and um John Scully
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anding his eyes out yeah really he kind of comes off to me as a a very emotional
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person you know like very very abrasive but but you know beneath that very
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emotional right oh yeah very very um so there you go Andrew Garf might actually be a good pick Buster you're on to
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something there you can just spend the whole movie crying thanks for the uh the comment dbg I'd use your name but you
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didn't give it to us that's okay if you want to remain anonymous you don't want to let people know that you listen to our show that makes sense that makes
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total sense I don't blame you uh let's talk about the apps we use in our menu bars so this is cool I want to give a
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shout out to uh Zach Hamed on medium.com he wrote a fun piece on the history of
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uh the menu bar and he says in his piece as far as I can tell the first menu bar app appeared in 2002 with Mac 10.2 code
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name Jaguar um I guess it wasn't a code name that was the actual name Apple uh had just released I chat
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and as part of the I chat interface you were able to change your status in the menu bar I remember this remember being
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able to go up in your menu bar and be like leaving like a funny like away message like Aron is fighting Steve
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Balmer in the Coliseum brb no no one oh yeah I no I didn't you
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you must have used I chat Leander I chat uh the uh I mean maybe you didn't
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actually use it it was kind of available but you didn't really chat with anyone online
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want to talk to you no because you used to work at wired around 2002 isn't that right yeah yeah
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but I don't remember uh I chat yeah yeah you know the preview I hated the thing I hated all the inter messages I used to
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use um was it ad yeah that was the other popular one it's yeah I hated that too
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but you just hated that one less had to use it yeah all right um so anyway uh
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the menu bar is that bar that lives at the top of your screen it's where the file edit and view menus are and then you know you can going have a bunch of
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icons up there and and you know your space is limited in the menu bar so I
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think the things that you end up having up there are things that you must end up using a lot because you know they're
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granted the space so Buster I know you said you had one or two picks leer do
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you have anything up there yeah got a whole bunch most of them have no idea what they would do what they do
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it's just everything that's installed itself without leander's knowledge it's still living there I know well because so I just went and had a look and I'm
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like oh my goodness well that's in there I've never actually even looked at most of them do you any do you ever use any
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of them well yeah I use um the sound one okay so that's built in the sound one
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yeah I use the Wi-Fi Oneil yeah I do too I use the Wi-Fi one too and I I use the
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air playay one which is built in you mean you uh option click is it option click on the sound icon it turns into
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where you can route right yeah uh Nifty tip for all you guys out there yeah the
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little speaker with little sound waves coming off it if option click it you can select where you want the audio to go oh
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really tip I use that all the time with like an airpl speakers me too exactly me
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too Buster uh you got one that you that you have living up there I try and keep my menu bar clean because it reminds me
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of like the system task tray you know from uh windows but I have uh yeah okay
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I have one uh day one the journaling app I put that in the top the menu bar so
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you can so you journal every day dear diary [Music]
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I don't but I put it in the menu bar hopefully that so I will remember to journal every day never this doesn't
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seem to be working yeah no okay what else you got up there uh
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and then I also I put Dropbox up there of course and then uh Fantastical yeah okay but or uh Leander
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you probably have Dropbox living up there to I do but I never use it now you know the only time I ever wanted um you
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know I just it to to go to the site or whatever fig how to um I usually use it
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to open the Dropbox folder that's generally how I use it that's yeah or look at anything like you recently added
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yeah since it since it has like all the stuff that's been recently moved around um so I use dropbox up there I have back
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blaze up there so for my backups and stuff I have time machine which uh is great when you need to suddenly turn it
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off because it's degrading the audio on your podcast um one I've talked about before which I absolutely love is I stat
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menus so I have a bunch of um little visual aids that show me what my CPU on
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my computer is doing how much RAM is being used what my bandwidth upload and download is currently um or how it's
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currently being utilized like what my speeds are and then I also have mint living up there so I can keep track of
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my hundreds and hundreds of dollars and which bank accounts they're
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in I've got I Cal menus sitting up there too I'm sorry not IAL menus Fantastical
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which is the actual name of the product but I find that I don't use it very often Buster do you actually use
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fantastic how to set schedules and stuff no usually when I open it I usually I'm like man I need to remove that from the
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menu bar well did you guys know that you can I think if you option click was it
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option or control uhhuh or is it command click um I can't find the shortcut I
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feel like a big jerk now um do you guys know the shortcut to move those icons around I don't know two shortcuts which
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ones are they come say command V I know command C and command W but
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command W never actually pastes anything I don't know why it's broken actually I know a couple more uh
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yeah so you can move those around I feel like it DS now because I actually can't get it working although some of them you
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actually can't move around so they're they're stuck in place so maybe that's why I'm sure I'm going to get like a
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hundred tweets of people like telling me what the shortcut is um but you can move the around I also have Cloud app I think
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so it's like um a place where you can store images and stuff but I never use it so actually I should probably get rid
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of now I'm I'm like Leander I'm looking at some of these things I'm like what the heck is this what is this cool
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anything got it junked up isn't it how many how many icons have you got 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 oh
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you need to do some spr cleaning for sure well I had IAT menus take over some of the icons for just like the standard
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default icons from from the OS because some of them are are more useful for example like the clock when I click on
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it I think the default apple one just shows you digital time analog time you
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can make a selection on which one you want to see but IAT menus actually shows you like a world calendar and your
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actual calendar and and very very useful to me uh what the moon uh state is going
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to be like so tonight it's going to be a waxing crescent ah so I know I have um so you know when able to lock yourself
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in a covero exactly and the new moon is coming September 23rd so I know on that
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night I'm definitely going to be locking all the doors and wearing loose loose fitting
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clothing oh wait no September 8th actually is the full moon oh it is I think a new moon is actually totally
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dark uh anyway do you guys have any more to add or is is uh is that it is that all we got about it okay let's go ahead
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and wrap it up there then sound good okay you're like I don't
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care you just go ahead WRA it up I'm just going to sit here silently all right guys well that's all the cultcast we have for you guys this week if you
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guys next time time yeah that one sounded a bit weird yeah sound very
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weird I think I put the ambassis on the wrong
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all right well let's do the show we can definitely talk more about video but it's a discussion worth having for sure
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a video yeah well you look really good too I mean look at me and Buster for us we're more hesitant than do it cuz we
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don't have your classic British looks yeah so funny
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yeah I think we should definitely do video okay um I think the schlong idea on the green screen's also quality but
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we could we could talk about that further you guys haven't seen it in HD it's pretty good all right here we
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go did you seen that show naked and afraid or whatever it is in the wood I'm
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just about to start what naked and alone it's called Naked and
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Afraid the discovery I don't watch those kind of movies Leander your son watch it
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it's not a movie it's a it's a discover like Buster says it's a discovery show it's like they get all Primal and [ __ ]
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really yeah yeah they put this couple in the woods naked yeah totally naked and
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very afraid yeah yeah it's pretty funny do they really yeah it was on the other
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night with a sound down and I looked up and there was this dude on it and and they they pixelate out the you the
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pixelation like uh like come on this is like I can't either they're screwing
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someone's screwing around or he has the biggest schlong ever on the Discovery Channel
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I've seen some pretty big ones each morning and every
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morning actually there was a dude at the gym yesterday that had oh my God just a massive banana hammock it's huge
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it I thought it was a [Laughter] prosthetic didn't want to say anything
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oh look to Too Close he's going to be on snakes on the plane three it's just going to be him and the in
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coach yeah exactly where's Samuel Jackson oh he's not in this
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movie no need okay let's uh let's get this shizzel on the Rizzle
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