Everything you want to know about the new iPads (CultCast #646)

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you guys missed the pre-show banter Where Mrs D's influence caused Lewis to
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say something that was so grotesque that we probably will have to edit that part out we got Richard field here from
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London you know what I'm G to do Lis I'm gonna edit it out me saying it first and just let you be the one saying it oh
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great can we do that Griffin we got Mario a oh there's all
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sorts of people piling in fake podcast to the
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uh people are saying oh people are saying they think I won the prediction iPad event man I I I
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do I honestly do not know I really just don't know like when I was going through the keynote actually almost in real time
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CU I woke up and I was like I might as well watch it uh I was thinking to myself there's no way I won this like
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there are so many questions that we had on there that I'm like I'm pretty sure Griffin answered yes to and I said no to
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I think Griffin's gonna eat this one out but we just don't know look at that smirk he's trying to contain he's trying to keep a poker face damn you I can't
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tell I can't tell from your face Four Aces
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oh man see you got at least one right so I'm sure you beat me yeah and actually um Griffin tallied up
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the those of you who sent in your predictions we got to figure out a way to like officially do this Griffin so
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like people can maybe do it with us during the actual episode or something I don't know like maybe we could do like a
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Google form or something where people could like send in like the answers on the Google form and then we can tally it all up pretty easily to see who who got
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make it easier uh but uh that would be something that will
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well we could talk more about that later but but we have uh we have results from those of you who did send in some of
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your predictions okay look this is going nowhere fast let me go ahead and queue up Mrs D we got a lot to
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do and not a lot of time to do it so let me go ahead and call up Mrs D oh Mrs
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D oh Mrs d did you hear that thing that lisis was talking about earlier oh I
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most certainly did hey m d please for the love of us all don't say anything
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more about it because it was so grotesque that I wouldn't even want you to sell your own reputation by saying
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something like that on the air hopefully people don't catch the replay if you don't mind Mrs D let's go ahead and get
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this thing rolling because we have a lot to do in three two one
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hello and welcome to kassi best 30 plus SP app conversation you're going to
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hear all week long I'm your host a el join me today he's excited to make the new 13in OLED iPad the centerpiece of
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the culac rider Room Security he'll finally be able to observe every movement in the rider cage activate
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alarms and autofill the food trough from any location in the world here's the managing CAC Louis wellis is here here
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all homekit compatible also with us in 20 years time you'll likely see the new OLED iPad
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sitting on the desks behind him next to a half dozen other nonfunctional Apple
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devices he's a writer for call the Mac Griffin Jones is here airphone I have to ask did
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you buy an iPad this week well that is the question isn't it and I like how you
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don't bury the lead I was going to have the same question for you guys so here's
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my plight I almost did but I was like you know I don't really need a new iPad
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right now cuz my I think I have the 2019 iPad Pro I think Louis you have the 2018
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right yeah the 10.5 one yeah okay so I think that they refreshed the design in 2019 and that's the one that I have and
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that thing is still going strong I mean it does everything I need to do and yet I still obviously want and desire the
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iPad Pro so much there's I I absolutely do not need one the iPad Air is completely sufficient for everything
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that I do but that OLED screen is going to be such a massive Improvement and if
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you've ever gone from a like an LCD display to like an ol display it's just
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a huge difference so I I queried my uh
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bank account well first my bank account to see if it was even possible and then I reached out to some of my Apple
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friends and I was like Hey anyone have any of their 25s left all these people
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use their 25 selfishly I should add they didn't even consider good old Papa Earth they use it on themselves unbelievably
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so there's no 25s left to be had um but I think in two or three months time
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we're going to see these on the refurbished store and all Apple employees get 15% off on the refurbished
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store so it ends up being like like usually it's a 15% discount on forish products so it'll end up being 25 or 30%
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off then so I probably will just wait CU I don't need to have the iPad Pro it's
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like it's not like I going be making YouTube videos about it you know MKBHD is going to have the iPad Pro two weeks
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and so will I Justine before the thing gets released I mean apple is so strategic about releasing this stuff to
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the access media that they're all going to have it long before we will I don't
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mean that as a pejorative but it is true it is true people who are waiting until WWDC to see if there's any if any of the
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features that they announc are going to be exclusive to the iPad Pro instead of like the you know they require the M4 instead of the M2 oh I don't even care
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about that I mean that would be a bonus in my book like that screen is going to be such a massive Improvement and dude
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they shaved off a quarter pound a quarter pounder a whole Royale with
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cheese on the 13 in which I think might make that 13inch actually usable like a
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a lot of people complained it was far too heavy but if they shave off a quarter pound I think that's going to be
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the one that I go for we're getting way ahead of ourselves look before we dive in we got to pay some bills here from
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Lewis are you ready to lead us are you ready to take over talk about the new
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iPads are you doing both of them apparently so thank goodness you are do you know that you're doing both of
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them yeah I'm very familiar with the show notes I keep them at hand okay I I
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recommend it keep the tab open yeah well they finally did it uh Apple finally supersized the iPad Air
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there's a 13-in model same as the uh iPad Pro that everybody's you know the gigantic thing
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uh smaller iPad Air also got a size bump up to 11 in from 10.9 so they're all
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bigger they're all AER they actually didn't change the size of they just Chang the name they rounded up right
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well and it's it's very exciting that it's no longer 9.9.9 that that got annoying I like it
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just round up Apple let's see uh so what's new about it the new iPad Air runs an M2 processor
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which Apple says is 50% faster than the M1 chip in the 2022 iPad Air and three
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times faster than the fourth gen iPad Air with the sad little A14 bionic
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chip I think my iPad has the a12 bionic a12 oh my how how do you even iPad with
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that uh quite effectively actually I almost never noticed that it's old it's so powerful still
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uh other new features include front-facing landscape camera with Center Stage keep everyone in the shot
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uh landscape stereo speakers with spatial audio for Better Sound uh they support the old magic
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keyboard the $29 one without function keys and no fancy aluminum shell the new
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Apple pencil Pro we I feel like I'm J mentioning all these things we haven't even discussed it's kind of weird anyway
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apple pencil Pro and the old USBC apple pencil and uh they also give they they work
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with the hover feature which I've never had the joy of experience unfortunately no face ID still has Touch
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ID in the fingerprint scanner built into the power button on the right Edge and uh let's see the pricing 11inch model
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starts at 599 13inch model starts at $799 yeah so same pricing that's
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great in fact I was trying to figure out if they raised prices on the pros they did raise prices on the pros didn't they
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oh yeah okay I was gonna say I but could guessed that I mean we talked about that obviously but you it's actually very
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hard to figure out what the original price was on stuff Apple after Apple releases a new model they completely
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scrub it from their website and all these third party retailers that sell this stuff they charge their own prices
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they're not necessarily actually related to what Apple charges so it's actually kind of hard to tell how much things used to cost it's like we should print
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out all the uh pricing and everything you just have like a bind follow price yeah we should have a price you can go
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to Wikipedia Wikipedia list the original price and you can also go to the internet archive that'll show you the
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old version of the website that's what I use all the time oh that's a good idea the internet certainly be done oh my
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goodness hold on a second we got to get the we got to get the the checking account updated here we
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got a super chat from Brad pepper a very spicy guy if I do say so myself holy
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moly he's given $999.99 going straight into L's pocket
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we got to get this that's that's US currency wow that's like
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$45 in 2023 money that is shocky I know thank you Brad oh my goodness that that
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might be the biggest one that we've gotten yet I'm gonna have to start wearing a hat so that I could say hats
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off yeah that's a good idea maybe we could use that $99 to buy you a hat do a
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hat like some kind of like nice British hat I own a hat well that is greatly appreciated Brad thank you we still got
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to get in touch with um with uh uh uh uh Hugo last get him on
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the show because I think he's given us like $1,800 total so far I hope that we
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don't get chargebacks on that money at some point in the future or that he has we find out E's
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using like a stolen credit card or something reverse PayPal yeah exactly okay sorry we're way
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off track back here but thank you y keep it rolling I just saw that and $100 detour uh let's see so uh you know
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everybody's excited about the iPad eror but uh I think the biggest disappointment is that sorry sorry
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leading into something that's all right go ahead I think the biggest disappointment is that it doesn't have face ID like after all these years
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apparently face ID is just a really expensive component to include and they just can't get it down to the $600 price
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level I mean you would think if it only costed $4 and they would be able to put it in the iPad iPad Air by now you know
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I think it's really the biggest like for for me I think that's the biggest reason why I would even entertain an iPad Pro
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instead of an iPad Air because you know having there you go yeah I wouldn't
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which is why I don't own an iPad but I'm just saying you know it's disappointing I'm surprised it does it feels like
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a no it feels like they should added it well got to do whatever you can to
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get people to spend that extra money on the right and they probably are very careful on the features that they add to the
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lower end iPads cuz they want you to spring for that extra pro model and you know until now
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with the OLED screen you're basically paying for more performance but for for
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most people the more performance doesn't really matter I mean the iPads are plenty powerful enough like the air does
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everything you really needed to do from a performance perspective there are almost no apps that even taking advantage of the raw horsepower that's
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provided so they probably have to reserve some of those features for pro you know what I was just thinking I
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think you just said There You Go Le a a great a great marketing term they
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can use in like the next release of like the iPad Air a you
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[Laughter] go they can have that maybe not for free that will be a royalty basis we'll have
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to talk about that but um anything else to add about about this I actually really like the colors blue purple
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Starlights and is that space gray or space black that's that's space gray for
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sure I forgot all about the colors because they're not really colors I mean when that flashed up on the screen I'm
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like which one's blue which one's purple which one's silver I they're I don't know maybe my eyes are not good enough
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to discern it that's probably the problem I really like them a lot actually like they're you know they're
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they're kind of lighter lighter colors but um blue like purplish they're almost
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colors almost purple kind of gold and then gray I actually really like the
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space gray I I it's truth to be told I'm not a fan of space black at all I really
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just don't like it I I don't like the color at all it's way too dark so I'm probably going to have to go and go back
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to Silver I think for the iPads and uh
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future Maxs I'd I I would much rather have silver than than than uh space black but that's just me especially
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because I think that thing's a fingerprint magnet all right and anything else about iPad Airs before we move on
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L I don't think we need to talk about anything else uh iPad Pro of course is
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the big star of the show lots more exciting actual upgrades that are are in
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some cases shocking so it's the first uh you rolled out the first two iPads i
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with OLED screens which you know everybody that has ever seen these things says it's so fantastic I've not
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yet seen one anyway uh I think the most shocking thing is it yes in fact it does run on the Apple M4
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processor the M4 just months after the M3 I could have told you that if you listen last show I would have told you I
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would have told you why too a little little bird told you let's see uh yeah
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so they've got the iPad Pro Beats the Mac to Apple's lest chip first time for everything uh T this tablet that OLED
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screen this was shocking too has what Apple calls a tandem OLED technology
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that Stacks to I keep OLED o LED I can I cannot decide which way to pronounce it
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I don't remember which way which way did Apple say it I don't even remember I think that they said OLED most people I
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think most people say OLED I meant to make a check of that and I I failed failed miserably uh anyway this Stacks
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two OLED panels to provide greater full screen brightness that's 1,00 knits for SDR and HDR content and 1600 nits Peak
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for HDR 1,600 nits that's darn bright that's darn bright going to need
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sunglasses uh for the first time Apple's also offering a nanotexture display glass option cost an extra 100 bucks
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only can get it on the one terabyte and two terabyte model of course of course you only get the extra core on those
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models as well they give you more power I really hate this nickel and Diamond actually they got going on I really don't like it it's a it's a it's an
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incentive to buy the expensive one isn't it uh see the uh the
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two you know less expensive models 20 256 and 512 models those come with a
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nine core CPU with three performance cores and six efficiency cores the most
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expensive one Tab and two terabyte models come with 10 core CPU that's one extra performance core and the same six
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efficiency cores they all get the 10 core GPU which Apple says makes M4 four
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times faster than previous iPod iPad models new GP takes quote just half the
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power to get the same performance of M2 so it's faster it's way more efficient so much so much more Pro iPad dude that
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M4 is going to be such a monster I mean it's so much power it's more power than anyone needs I know we're going to talk
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about updated logic and Final Cup Pro here which I do have some thoughts on by the way uh I'm happy well I'm not going
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to get ahead of myself um it's all about the it's it's all about the OLED here they called it the best display on Earth
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I don't know about that they didn't say anything about cutie OLED which is the better newer generation of OLED that
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Samsung makes which changes um the the way that they how do I describe
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this it changes the way they manufacture OLED so that it can be brighter and have um better color saturation it's it's I
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have a cutie OLED television and it's like the most unbelievably perfect beautiful magnificent display I have
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ever seen uh it's it's a Sony Master TV that I got on a crazy Black Friday deal
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and then it crapped out and then they sent me the brand new generation instead of fixing the one that I had so I have like the best T TV money can buy and
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it's cutie OLED and I don't think that's what this is and if that's the case you know is it going to be good yeah it will
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be very good but it's not C OLED I don't think I don't get the whole dual OLED
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display I don't know if they say that a a traditional OLED display doesn't have the brightness that they need and so
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what they they've basically like stacked two displays on top of each other so that it's double the brightness yeah but
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there's a lot of oleds that get this bright so I don't know if they are adding marketing jargon to a technology
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that has existed for the last two years or if they actually did something novel here but if but I think this is brand
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new because they've also said repeatedly that like the um it's not just like the display itself but also like the
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components inside the processor like the reason this iPad is built on M4 is because they had to design a completely
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new like display driver and like display Hardware inside the chip to be able to
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like output to this display as well interesting and that's why the iPad Pro needed to be on M4 for it huh and uh
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someone's also saying that tandem OLED might also prevent screen burning yeah that might be true because I think
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brightness contributes to burning so now if you have two oleds in tandem orientation I don't even know what that
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would look like uh then maybe you're only having to use like half the brightness from each OLED in order to
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bring the brightness up to a certain level that actually might be part of it is like they're doing this as a burin retention uh uh mitigation because
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obviously burning is an issue with oleds and and uh they don't want people to be returning these or complaining about burning yeah because I I don't keep my
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displays very bright at all so if I had one of these I would probably keep it at like 10% brightness and then it would just you know last forever and never
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burn in yeah but on your iPhone and on your app on on your Apple watch like if you go outside they crank up to full
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brightness and and they are surprisingly bright and if you're out there for long enough then I mean what can you do about
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that if you're using indoors all the time then then your strategy makes sense but if you're going outside it's going to crank up the bright I rarely go
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outside and when I do I live in Ohio so it's never actually that bright outside oh so you yeah so you just need to move if you want a longer life of your OLED
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display as you need to move to Ohio uh I don't know I I would just say thoughts on both these no one needs the iPad Pro
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absolutely no one there's there's zero actually use cases for needing something
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that's this powerful unless you're an artist because it the
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interactions that you get with the um apple pencil Pro being able to gyate your pencil and like change the
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orientation of your cursor that is pretty cool and I can't believe that they are just doing this
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now because that seems like it would be rather critical for creating artistic
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works on the iPad leis I felt you like I cut you off you were about to say something you looked very passionate we didn't we didn't I didn't want to pass
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up the other really astonishing thing about this these these uh new screens let them slim this thing down Apple says
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this is the the thinnest device they've ever made and and the things I've read about it it's it's like lighter like
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significantly noticeably lighter thinner lighter and you know more powerful I
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mean it's kind of I had like a little bit of a Johnny eye flashback during that part of it you know I mean thin is
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in again yeah and the lighter thing is something that we definitely need to
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emphasize they shaved a freaking quarter pound a quarter pound off the 13inch
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iPad Pro I have always wanted to get a 13-inch iPad Pro but everyone always talks me out of it because they're like
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it's it's like holding a medieval Shield the thing weighs 65 pounds now I was like ler you're exaggerating I think you
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need to go to the gym you know and but I've heard other people say that it is
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too heavy but they are big and heavy well but now what size do you have you
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have the 11 don't you or you have the 10.9 you said I the 10.5 but you know the wife has a I don't know which
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version of the pro but I mean the first Vision the big iPad Pro was like oh my God Hefty it's like a you know a serving
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platter it feels like one so they're doing away with the backlight obviously because oleds are self-illuminating
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which is probably where you're going to get that huge weight savings from so for me I am most likely going to go with the
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13-in iPad Pro I'm not going to get the Smart Keyboard even though we'll talk about that it looks incredible but it's
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going to add a ton of weight and I don't like that uh it adds all that weight and
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for me I don't usually need keboard they said that got that that got lighter weight as well compared to the old one I
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mean I'll try it out but even still I don't use a keyboard and trackpad often
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enough to Warrant the extra weight and the expense I probably will not get the apple pencil Pro even though I
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desperately want one my current one just lives in a drawer or connected to my
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iPad so the battery doesn't die and I almost never use it but in case you ever need it well that is a good point that
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is a good point now you're changing my mind uh it's like getting two terabytes right spending like the extra $800 to
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get in Cas but seriously though almost no one needs the iPad Pro even though I
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think it's going to be the ultimate travel device and airplane movie experience especially if you have like
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the airpods max like I do you're going to look like a complete jerk sitting there with like your airpods Max and
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your 13in OLED iPad Pro on the plane watching Lord of the Rings but the iPad
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Air is also I think extremely compelling I mean they put the M2 in it you got the 13-inch size now it basically does
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everything that you need it to do and more like there's no way you're going to make the M2 even sweat that's the one that I would
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probably recommend to virtually everybody including myself but unfortunately you know I have to have
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the best I demand the best you guys know that and if you're listening to this podcast you you kind of are probably the
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same way um how much were the iPad Pros before does anyone remember they they
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started at $7.99 and now they're $9.99 okay so they got a 20% price hike that's
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for the 11 inch model and I think the uh the 13inch model also got a $200 price
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point from 999 to $12.99 well that's a that's a bigger price bump that's a 30% maybe it was
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9.99 or was it 1099 I think it was $199 it might have been $799 and 1099 that's
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a whole lot of extra cash for two Ines you know what I'm saying
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like is it worth it I don't know but I think that's going
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to be the way that I go and you know okay good point Steve from the chat U
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maybe this is not the point you're making Steve but I'm going to credit you anyway they did bump up the base storage like before you would would have had to
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spend the extra dough to get to 256 GB of storage now it starts there so you
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know they they're they're giving you a little bit but that's what I if you were to buy one how would you configure it uh
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I would just go completely Bas there's no re there's no reason to go anything beyond base for me I'm not I don't need
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a terabyte of storage I don't need any more than 256 gigabytes of storage all I use it for is watching do disrespect
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replays um browsing the internet before I go to bed and I I actually I I will
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tell you exactly how I use it usually okay so I am a YouTube premium
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subscriber so I get picture in picture for that ridiculous fee that I pay and
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what I will do is I will go picture and picture mode so I'll have a big YouTube video like in the corner somewhere on the iPad and then I'll just be reading
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I'm just like mindlessly scrolling you know Reddit or whatever at night and I also have the video going and that's my
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Prime use case so like having the larger screen means I have a larger video it also means that I have more screen real
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estate to move the video around then of course it's going to be like just the absolute perfect travel device like when
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I went to Disney World two years ago I set up my 11inch um iPad Pro and I had
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my airpods Max and I was watching movies on the way there and there was some kid that was like screaming which I get flight anxiety anyway I do not like to
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fly and then you add that into it it's like some kid screaming at the top of their lungs for an hour and I just put
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on the iPad Pro and the noise cancellation activated and I was like ah this is so much better and I'm like
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watching a movie and but I I I was left wanting somewhat because 11 in for a
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screen is really not very big like 13 inches is better you know Griffin's
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going to be over there with his Vision Pro watching an 85 in display fully immersed he won't even know that the
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plane's going down which might be a good thing um Butz you
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know dude that's that's how I get like I get that nerv and it all stems from me watching this
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movie final destination I don't know if any of you have seen that movie uh they
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made a whole series of them but in the very first one the premise is like these kids are on this trip and they go on a
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flight and I think some of them end up not going or something dear and like
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they escaped death and now death's coming coming after them like you to get them for the rest of the movie because
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like he's mad that they got away but that that movie had one of the most realistic plane crash scenes that I had
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ever seen and it freaked me out and ever since I saw that movie I have had flight anxiety and as I've gotten older it just
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gets worse and worse and worse so I am sitting there on the plane if there's any turbulence at all like I immediately
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start getting nervous I have to pause the movie you know and just sit there and say my prayers because I I just
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can't handle it like I really don't like turbulence and then two years ago when
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we were at Disney World we're way off track here I'm sorry but but we were we were like I think two days away from
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leaving and we start getting all these texts from the airline about how our
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flight times are being changed our flight got time got bumped to be earlier our friends flight time um had I think
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been bumped later or something and then ended up being cancelled and we're getting all these texts we're completely
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ignoring it because we're at Disney World right and at a certain point we realized what is going on here why do we keep getting all these text messages all
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this stuff's happening well is it h hurricane coming in and we had no idea and it just happened to coincide with
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the day we were leaving and so the airlines were trying to figure out what they were going to be doing and they
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bumped my flight to be earlier so that we were one of the last people to leave the airport before they closed the whole
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thing down like we get there it was a freaky scene that the skies were all gray the palm trees are bending like
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noodles you know it's like there's like the entire airport is completely just shoveled there's like there's like new
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papers lying all over the ground looks like a scene from a like a zombie movie
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and I have fight anxiety right and and I'm like dude help I'm like we should not be leaving this airport right now
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like look look look around look around you like there's a hurricane bearing down on us like we should not be leaving
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but they wanted to get us out what I'm sure they know what they're doing that's
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what I I can tell myself so we get on this dang airplane and I'm already at deathcon 7 you know
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freaked out and we start going up and the plane is going like this you shake it all around
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and I'm like dear Lord I I'm going to lose it I'm going to lose it on this plan like and it was
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like that it that that turbulence is I I would say moderate maybe I've never been
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in severe turbulence thank God but it was pretty moderate and it was like that all the way to Alabama it took probably
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an hour for it to calm down and neither the iPad nor the airpods max could save
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me from enduring that traumatic experience but um well make sure you fly
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on an Airbus and not a Boeing it's not like you have a choice dude it's not like it's not like you get
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to choose what plan you go on yeah no kidding at least my door didn't fly off but but uh I don't even know why I'm
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telling this story uh it's a pretty severe uh yeah pretty severe tangent
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yeah where are we I have no idea tell us about your favorite thing specs yes we talking about specs oh wait
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so let me put a bow on that so no one needs the iPad Pro but obviously that OLED screen is going to be a massive
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huge increase in Fidelity and I think for that feature alone it's probably worth it plus Griff and I were talking
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about this like the fact that we did get M4 on iPad Pro all but ass sure is the
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fact that we have MacBook Pros incoming you know before the end of the year with upgraded M4 uh Max chips so it's going
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to be like so now I'm definitely not not buying the MacBook Pro Griffin you ask me every week half joking and I almost I
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almost buy it you know every single week but I convinced myself not to we're all but assur to get the upgraded MacBook
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Pros you know before the end of the year so so hold your horses on that if you're if you've been thinking about buying a
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Macbook Pro I I would wait I would not buy one at this point um I bet you that the thin and light aspect of the pro
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when you go in there and you compare the two I bet it's going to be a powerful
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attract if you don't want to buy an iPad don't go to an apple don't touch it don't don't even touch it I'm going in
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there I want to see it I'm going to I'm going to actually be responsible I'm going to go in there no so so here's my
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plan I think we talked about this in the pre-show did did we do this in the pre-show or did we do this during the regular episode I don't remember I don't
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know it it all folds into each other so here's where I'm at I'm I apologize if I
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already said this because I can't remember so here's my plan am I gonna buy it right now no I I pulled my uh
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network of of Apple friends who work at Apple and I said this
35:31
earlier they all use their 25% offs already so here I am I got no 25s left
35:37
to be had and I don't know if it's worth 15% off which is what I have been
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offered which I I deeply appreciate but I'm like I don't need it right away right I could I could wait and so what I
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was saying before is they're these are going to appear in the referb store in
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two to three months we know that and they'll be discounted 15% % at that point if you have any Apple friends they
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can give you an additional 15% off anything that Apple sells including refurbs so you'll end up getting maybe
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30% off at that point so for me I think that's the play like my current iPad serves me well I don't need to get a new
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iPad so I definitely want one I am going to upgrade but probably I'm going to
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wait until I can get a better discount on it or wait until they're discounted at a retailer like you know B&H or ad
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ofas something like $1,300 plus tax for the 13in MacBook Pro now you're talking
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about a $1,400 iPad I mean these things just keep getting more and more and more
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expensive and for me even though I would love to have it not worth it for me uh
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at this point Steve from the chat airone would you do a review of the Sonos Ace headphones when they get released I'm
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not familiar with those but I would love to get back into reviewing headphones and also other music gear cuz
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like those are my favorite kind of reviews G Bland he wants one so bad he will Fork it
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little girl every time there's a little bump no I'm not squealing I'm just sitting there completely white and my my
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hands are gripped on the uh handrest like a skeleton my face is contorted in pain
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and uh ma'am is there any way I can bring down the oxygen mask just in advance just in case I
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mean the the Vision Pro at $3,500 seems like an very expensive for that have you
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considered Gonic I don't know if that helps they'll have to pipe the Cannabis smoke right
38:04
through the uh the oxygen system to Cal that won't help at all yeah that definitely would make it better would that definitely wouldn't make it better
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uh let's see here where are we um all right we need to talk about specs and benchmarks don't we which I'm excited to
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but let's see here before we do do that I want to make sure I don't accidentally um bring up the uh the poll results cuz
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that would be bad at the Point since we uh or not the poll but um our prediction results so real quick I do want to thank
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specs which I seem to have misplaced here we go the first M4 iPad Pro
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benchmarks show a 21 21% performance increase over
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M3 benchmarks giving an early look at the performance of the M4 4 processor
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for the 2024 iPad Pro have finally arrived and as I just said I feel like
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Matt Barry doing the uh uh the Clen Vango bit do you guys
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know what show I'm talking about no I do oh dude never mind I won't get into it that's a whole another tangent um but
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for those of you British listeners hopefully some of you get that uh the M4 is built on the second generation 3
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nanometer technology has up to performance cords and six efficiency cores two more than the
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M3 and I was going to say earlier but Griffin poo uh what I'm about to say is
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it kind of feels like the M4 is an M3 uh or M4 name only because it uses
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the new 3 nanometer process and the M3 was the older 3 nanometer process and so
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the M3 was more like a stop Gap and then here we are at the M4 which seems to be like the
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3 Nim process that we actually wanted to start with and uh deliver some
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efficiency gains but um he'll talk more about that in a bit M4 delivers up to one point times faster CPU performance
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over the powerful M2 in the iPad Pro I love how they make these comparisons to
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these older Generations it's like 165 times faster than the iPhone 3GS it's
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like oh wow uh let's see here big number those wondering how much the processor
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improves over over the M3 that debuted in the MacBooks uh just 7even months ago
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wow uh the geek the geekbench six scores found that the M4 earned a uh 14677 on
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the multi-core test for comparison the M3 MacBook Pro scored 12,12 according to end Gadget anyway so
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that is a 21% improvement for those thinking of upgrading the M4 is 50%
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better than the M2 and 71% better than the M1 on the same test wow uh the m4's
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single core performance this is the one that I always care about because I I I feel like this is a much better gauge of
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performance increase since multi-core they can always just add more course the M4 single core performance was 3767 and
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the M3 MacBook AA scored a 3190 which is an 18% Improvement which
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even even just the single core performance that's that's pretty big I mean there was a time when intel was delivering you know 11% boost in single
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core performance so that definitely is uh a definitely a big increase and then
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of course the machine learning uh capabilities have also been drastically
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increased which we talked about in past shows which is part of why I was so certain that Apple was going to include
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it on this new iPad which I was right about M4 has Apple's fastest neural
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engine ever um quoting Apple here capable of up to 38 trillion operations per second which is faster than the
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neural processing unit of any aipc today what does an aipc even mean what is an
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aipc can anyone tell me I don't even know what that means I've never heard of such a thing that a lot of other tell
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you a lot of other chips don't include any like you know machine learning Hardware in them whatsoever yeah I think
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that's what they're referring to but that that's kind of my point is like they're referring to something that doesn't exist because no no computer
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well they're saying that this this one is faster than the ones that do I wonder which ones do I've never heard of another one to be honest but I
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don't know maybe I'm missing something uh let's see here oh here's the best part coming to Mac the M4 launched an
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iPad Pro obviously but leaks indicate it'll appear in Max starting in the fall
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the end of 2024 in the beginning of 2025 will bring new IMAX a low-end 14-inch
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MacBook Pro a high-end 14 and 16-inch MacBook Pro and Mac minis all with M4
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chips says the germinator so hold your hold your horses if you been waiting for
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that new Mac I mean all that expensive performance that you have to
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pay for pay extra for in the M3 I think you're going to just get in the M4 if you just wait until fall which is
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obviously not even that fall away I'll see myself out
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um let's see here John from the chat Max te maxtech says the M4 is faster than
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the core I9 in single yeah I believe that they always stream back and forth
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uh Betty Reyes uh yes CLM H Vango apologies I forgot the H
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um it's just so funny I I can't get into it it's G to take us too long we're running out of time but um for those of
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you that know you know what I'm saying uh we're all over the place and
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particularly me I think I covered all of that did I lose my notes
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again yeah I did so I think this is like I think this is the chip that we've all been waiting
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for like uh M2 was a pretty modest improvement over N1 you know it was the first first you know revision of Apple
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silicon and it was that was pretty good uh M3 I think was was kind of hyped up
45:47
quite a lot especially on this show like Ah that's the first time they're gonna switch to the 3 nanometer process that's
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going to change everything it's going to be so much faster and so much more efficient and I was like well a little bit but not really it was just like
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another you know M2 esque bump but here we are with M4 the enhanced 3 NM process
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and like I think this is what we've all been waiting for it is both incredibly power efficient and Incredibly fast like
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Steve trouton Smith on masteron posted another link I can find it for the show notes but he saw other benchmarks that
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were saying that M4 doubles the performance of M1 which in just three
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generations is kind of remarkable like you know the 2018 MacBook Pro was not double the speed of my 2015 MacBook Pro
46:28
that's why I held on to it for so long cuz like what's the point of spending so much money on something that isn't any faster but like the M4 I think is um the
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reaping the rewards of like the the new process so looking forward to all the all of the Macs getting it pretty soon
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dude that this is it man the M4 this is this is a good year to to be waiting for
46:48
Apple Hardware I mean you got the iPad Pros that we've been waiting for and talking about forever now you're get the
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M4 uh a macb Pro later this year did I just say iPad Pro or MacBook Pro earlier
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I'm all I believe you said iPad Pro okay just making sure and then you get the MacBook Pro coming in the fall it's
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going to be one of those expensive years and if you sprung for the Vision Pro you got no you got no powder left for
47:13
anything so so I mean we Mac Mini no sorry and the iPad Mini still exists
47:19
geez yeah you can also still get oh do we want to mention hold on a second I'm looking at the show notes I feel like we
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have this out of order cuz like oh dear uh uh uh uh uh do you want to talk about
47:31
this well we got 30 minutes left leis do you want to talk about this Crush ad quickly because we got we have all these
47:36
other stories and we still have to do the uh oh my goodness look at all this my my stories at the end will be really
47:42
quick okay we're we're gonna have to cruise because we need I mean how long do you think we need for the let loose prediction results probably 10 minutes
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yeah at least 10 minutes we I think we could just we could probably just uh gloss over those I mean maybe just a a
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brief summary of the results and then just okay well do you want to talk about
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the crush ad Lewis yeah so uh apparently
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uh this Crush ad that was in there if you saw it apparently this triggered some people uh if you saw the show you I
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I I thought this is one of the most fun parts of of of this event right they have this video they have a giant
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hydraulic compactor and it's just loaded up with you know a a what was it a
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trumpet a a acoustic guitar all kinds of like toys and video games and things
48:32
like that and it just slowly you know hands of paint classically just slowly
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compacts them and everything just gets you know smashed out into a horrible painty you know just mess and then it it
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goes back up it it reverses and and the thing opens up and and there's the iPad Pro dude it is kind of Genius to be
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honest with you that is a really cool ad yeah I mean I thought it was uh
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beautiful and anyway uh you know it's like a minute long thing but then you know it just set set people off you know
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everybody uh everybody just went crazy it seems like not obviously it's the internet social media right everybody
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whatever anyway triggered a whole bunch of people isn't too surprising live in a nation of you know pansies but uh social
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media whining goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on so like uh here are some of everything
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beautiful charming and analog will be destroyed by a flat black black screen oh give me a
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break come on dude I mean people have to find something to be mad about
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everything iPad crushes the soul of humanity yeah it's not like anyone's
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forcing you to throw down 1,300 bucks for the iPad you can keep your French horn if you want to No One's Gonna Take
49:46
it from you no one wants your French horn it's tons of like you know creative types whatever even actor Hugh Grant on
49:53
twter Twitter X whatever you call it these days says the destruction of The Human Experience courtesy of Silicon
49:59
Valley dude come on complete overreaction it's an analogy Apple is is
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showing you visually that the iPad Pro can you know not take the place of but
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can replicate many of these things right it's it's a it's a device that could do so many things it's very creative yeah
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and that's one reason I don't have the iPad Pro is or I'm you know not going to buy the brand new one is that I bought
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an iPad Pro because I was so excited about all the creative application but it turns out I can't draw for nothing I
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can't even take handwritten notes that anyone can read so what do I need an iPad Pro and an apple pencil for I don't
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have those kinds of skills I don't use it to make music I should but I don't
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um I thought this was a kind of a really cool really cool little ad it was
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eye-catching it's not just somebody talking about specs and stuff it's it
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was I thought it was cool yeah I I thought you were going to go completely different Direction with this I thought you were going to say that they were mad
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that Apple destroyed all of this stuff and had to put it in a landfill in
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production of an ad although I don't even know if this stuff is real I mean is this a real that's the thing like is it I've seen a lot of people say oh it's
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all CG who knows I don't know some of it some of it's got to be CGI right I mean
51:17
they couldn't have gotten all that on the camera so after all this up and it it
51:23
honestly it's if you look at if you look at like Tech meme replies to this thing there's like hundreds hundreds just on
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you know that Tech meme has a aggregated if you go and look on our website you know or not our website our Facebook P
51:36
nobody comments on our website which really bums me out uh on Facebook post you know just all these responses
51:43
but ultimately you know I don't know if you saw this but
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filmmaker and I'm gonna butcher this person's name Rizo 60
51:53
Safi fixed the video by running it in first with some tweaks resurrecting the creative tools perfect great I thought
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that was actually that's cool yeah I mean it's an interesting uh flip the
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whole thing on its head so I don't know yeah I I love the ad I was surprised it
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caused so much uh consternation that was the word I was just thinking of I can't believe you said it consternation it's
52:17
like you pulled it right out of my brain you don't get to use that word every day either no you definitely don't get to use it as often as I would like to okay
52:24
it's been covered let's move on shall we and talk about some of the other aspects of the
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iPad Pro uh let's see I think these are me okay obviously you get the new Apple
52:36
pencil Pro let me put this over here so I can see what I'm doing which looks absolutely beautiful
52:42
and it's something I definitely want but in no way shape or form need I bought the previous apple pencil and it is just
52:50
a curse on my life I never use it but I don't want the battery to die so I'm constantly like you know trying to
52:56
manage the battery state so that it doesn't completely croak so it's available when I want to use it but I don't use it on any kind of regular
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basis I don't write with it very often because I just don't write very often but aspirational creativity yeah I mean
53:09
I use it sometimes and I have created some masterpieces like one of the best drawings I ever made which is of Dr disrespect was created on my current
53:15
iPad Pro with the apple pencil sure one of the very best and I I did it just by looking at a picture of him and I got
53:23
the mustache perfect I got the 3D LED LCD laser scopes perfect but that was
53:31
the last time I really did any artwork with it so now we have the new Apple pencil Pro you know what Pro means right
53:37
Louis Mo Money M money that's exactly it yep same price is
53:44
it oh well there you go another shocker there several surprises this event I
53:50
thought they raised the price on this but I guess not was going to be 159 but no 129 they had the new squeeze gesture
53:56
which I really really do like a lot just adds an extra interaction for those people who are doing real work on their
54:01
iPads but I think the the big one obviously is the internal gyroscope with the haptic feedback so you can churn the
54:07
pencil and have like the cursor rotate on your screen that is a super cool
54:13
feature that I for some reason feel compelled to want to purchase even though I can't think of a single reason
54:19
why I would use it which is why I brought the last apple pencil and almost never use it you're not you're not going to do calligraphy with your apple pencil
54:26
you know maybe I will you've convinced me it man maybe one day I will do craphy
54:32
you could do illuminated manuscripts yeah see these are the suggestions that I needed in order to
54:37
convince myself in order to put me over the top you know how expensive calligraphers pens are like people spend hundreds of dollars on like fountain
54:44
pens and stuff like that the apple pencil is a bargain I hadn't even consider all these arguments I'm in I'm
54:50
in but you need you don't need fancy papers either just a $1300 iPad yeah maybe I could use to write fancy love
54:57
notes to my wife in Judy e Heath of course you air drop them too yeah could
55:04
send them via a note or something uh you also get apple pencil hover which I
55:09
don't have because my iPad and pencil are too old I guess my iPad is too old which I also think is a really super
55:16
cool uh piece of functionality of course the big drawback here is the pencil Pro is only compatible with the new M2 iPad
55:24
Airs oh I actually didn't realize that I thought it was just the M4 iPad Pros okay so that might be the play right
55:29
there is the the iPad Air with the apple pencil Pro I don't love that they move
55:36
the camera to the side of the iPad particularly because I voted that they wouldn't do that in our last episode uh
55:43
because I thought it was crazy but there you are uh that's hilarious the new iPads are compatible with this new
55:49
pencil and the previously released USBC wired apple pencil uh adding to the
55:56
confusion all of the older pencils are still for sale of course um and then the apple pencil is available for order
56:02
right away for the same $129 price tag I wish I had seen that before I had asked
56:08
if uh price had gone up here's another one that chaps my hend the new magic keyboard for sale uh iPad Pro features a
56:15
bigger glass trackpad which I voted they wouldn't do um with haptic feedback and
56:21
also uh G darn you Griffin this is why I'm pretty sure you won the function keys which I also voted
56:28
against because I didn't see that one happening I screamed out loud when I heard that go the Darth vter
56:35
no exactly all those were only one point so
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you know it's only one point oh really okay so maybe uh so what you're saying is yeah so I'm still he's got a chance
56:48
all right I would love to have the new magic keyboard dude they're so nice I had one
56:54
for my current iPad ended up selling it because I just didn't use it enough and it does add a lot of weight now I know that this one we already spoke about the
57:00
fact that they made it lighter uh but even so I I like to have a slim folio case on
57:08
my iPad so that it's protected when I'm just using it for media consumption so
57:14
having the keyboard would obviously mean that I couldn't have a slim folio attached to it even though it is really
57:19
easy to pull your iPad off of this if you want to just use it as an iPad you're now going to be using it unprotected which is not my favorite but
57:26
if you want to have something that is like a MacBook Air replacement I I mean I honestly think and you don't mind
57:32
using iPad OS for productivity which I think is uh a curse but if you want to live your life that way it's up to
57:38
you I then I think the I the the the the iPad Pro actually is going to be like a
57:43
perfect computer for a lot of people because you get the best of both worlds obviously again I wish that they would
57:49
do something more Innovative with iPad Pro and give you like an actual OS used for productivity instead of just having
57:55
it be like the iPhone but bigger you know like it's hard to be productive on
58:00
an iPhone although I do think that the keyboard and trackpad make that a little bit easier but um prices for the new
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magic keyboard $299 for the 11in model 349 for the 13inch model uh you can
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pre-order now shipping starts on May 15th the the prices for these also have
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stayed the same right I don't know about that okay 299
58:25
it sounds more expensive but I know yeah didn't it used to be 229 and 300 I think
58:30
so I thought I thought it was always well the old one is still for sale so we can just check that yeah but do the
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prices have the prices changed yeah yeah I don't know so anyway okay there are your new two accessories that's going to
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be a no for me dog on both of those I just don't really need them and I've made the mistake before where I spent
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the money and ended up not needing them so uh but if you do need them then these
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are going to be even better accessories that are now available now I'm just vamping waiting
59:02
for someone to stop me Griffin you want to talk about um the iPad 10 I actually do think this is a big story that didn't
59:08
get a lot of uh coverage yeah so alongside the M4 iPad pros and M2 iPad Air Apple announced a
59:15
price drop for the 10th generation iPad the tablet now costs $3.49 making it
59:20
$100 cheaper than before additionally Apple discontinued the iPad 9 the iPad 9
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from its lineup for good the iPad 9 was the last tablet that had a home button lightning connector and the first
59:31
generation pencil all iPads that Apple now sells feature a narrow bezel design and touch ID integrated in the side
59:38
button or face ID there is a catch though the only catch is that the base model only comes with 64 GB of storage
59:46
of course upgrading to 256 raises the price to $4.99 64 dude yeah even if you don't use
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your iPad for very much like I was I was listening to do a to a different podcast where Mike Hurley was saying that like he bought a cheap iPad a while ago and
1:00:00
it only had 64 gigabytes of RAM because he wasn't gonna you sorry 64 gigs of storage because he wasn't really going
1:00:07
to use it for anything it was just going to be a consumption device and like he's had to delete notes he's had to delete
1:00:12
mail from the iPad it has like no photos on it but like just the thumbnails are like filling it up on space like 64 gigs
1:00:19
that's that's the new stinker of the lineup try if you know somebody buying an iPad try to convince them to upgrade
1:00:25
the storage if at all possible yeah but then it negates the the the whole point
1:00:31
which is getting a cheap iPad I mean I do love these iPads for my kids and and I'm happy to see that we've moved on
1:00:37
from the ninth generation iPad because that thing was ancient although at one point they were selling for 189 which I
1:00:43
think is was a crazy good deal but these iPad 10s are are are much much newer but
1:00:50
dude 64 gab of ram I'm so sick of being nickeled and dimed for storage I mean
1:00:56
how much can an extra 64 GB of RA of storage cost TC like 75 cents
1:01:03
maybe I mean look I'm not in Ops I'm not manufacturing but I mean what three
1:01:09
bucks maybe every every entry level model sold cost him
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$100 or 150 isn't it it's $150 yeah yeah wow Griffin were you
1:01:20
going to say something I feel like I cut you off what was I going to say I mean yeah even even though it's only $500 like U
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like you know for the good one that is a pretty good entry point entry price point because it has you can get a a
1:01:33
keyboard folio for it you can get an apple pencil for it you know and you have if if you're the opposite of airon
1:01:39
and you want all of the features like the the keyboard and trackpad and pencil but you don't really need the high
1:01:44
quality display then you know it's good that they have that base covered as well let's see to say about I bet you anything that the
1:01:50
base iPad Air comes with 128 gigs how much does it come with anyone off the top of there
1:01:56
yes it does so so I mean like that this is my point so now you're you've upgraded from 64 to 128 it cost you
1:02:06
$150 to make that upgrade which is outrageous and it's like oh well for
1:02:11
only extra $100 now you can have the iPad Air which is way better so this is
1:02:17
why they do it man it's all marketing Maneuvers and it really just chaps my hide big
1:02:24
time okay let's move on Griffin you want to talk about uh Final Cut Pro and logic and then I'll add some color commentary
1:02:30
and then we can jump into the let loose prediction results yeah so Apple released Final Cut Pro for iPad last
1:02:35
year uh this year they have one feature that uh I really want to call out called live multicam this turns your iPad into
1:02:42
like a four camera like director Studio you can connect up to four iPhones to your iPad and see live footage from all
1:02:50
of them simultaneously you can manually control their focus white balance and exposure
1:02:55
and and you can record from your multicam setup directly into the Final Cut Pro timeline like switching cameras
1:03:01
between them live you know which if you really want like an iPhone uh Centric
1:03:07
production setup this saves you the step of like separately recording all for you know from all four iPhones and like
1:03:13
editing them in after the fact and this this is what I'm most excited for Apple
1:03:18
announced a new app for iPhone called Final Cut camera it can uh this is what you'll need to have on your iPhone to uh
1:03:25
make the live multicam thing possible but it can also be used as a standalone video recording app with more precise
1:03:32
manual controls on the phone itself uh it's going to be available for free later this
1:03:38
spring that's pretty cool actually even just for having that app available on
1:03:43
the phone and having nothing to do with the iPad at all oh yeah okay what's next
1:03:49
uh logic pro there's one uh feature that I want to call out there like they gave this one they put this one in last but I
1:03:55
think it's like really the coolest one by far it's called stem splitter uh this lets you import a a single audio file
1:04:04
like from a voice memo or it could just be like a you know an MP3 that you have from the files app you just drag it into
1:04:10
logic and then you activate stem splitter and it'll use AI on device to
1:04:16
like split the uh to to split the track into four constituent parts so you just
1:04:21
drag this file in it's it's just like a single track but then suddenly you can isolate the vocal
1:04:26
the drums the bass or like uh like any other instruments and you can like change the mix you can you can remove
1:04:32
the vocals you can isolate the vocals if you want to use them for something else I think that's awesome it's pretty cool
1:04:38
yeah that is pretty cool and and and I think both of these apps I'm really happy to see that apple is actively
1:04:44
developing new features for both these apps but it has me a little concerned it has me a little concerned you know both
1:04:50
of these apps you can't purchase you have to rent from Apple which I don't love and
1:04:56
is unless you have the Mac version well that's but yes yes but but that's kind of my
1:05:03
point is we're not seeing this level of of productivity on Final Cut Pro for
1:05:10
Mac or for logic like Final Cut Pro seems like it's been abandoned by Apple
1:05:16
they almost a lot of a lot of the new features are coming to the Mac version it doesn't it doesn't have live multicam but uh because you know the Mac
1:05:24
isn't I guess they don't consider it to be like the mobile setup for that but like all the AI power color correction
1:05:29
features are coming to the Mac version as well and I think the stem splitter is coming to the Mac version of logic stuff
1:05:35
okay logic is for both versions okay I didn't catch it which makes nice try aine but but I think my point still
1:05:41
stands in that Apple has been languishing on Final Cut Pro
1:05:47
particularly like you look at what black magic is doing with da Vinci I mean dude they are iterating on that to such a
1:05:53
degree that people are Mig grading from Final Cup Pro to Da Vinci resolve in
1:05:58
droves and da Vinci keeps adding new features they are being Innovative Da
1:06:05
Vinci is free uh unless you want to pay for the pro features which a lot of people don't
1:06:10
need it is like the de facto standard for coloring in Hollywood there's just
1:06:15
all this stuff that black magic is doing which is starting to Edge out Final Cup
1:06:20
Pro and like I love Final Cup Pro like I want to see apple be more innovative I I
1:06:26
don't want to switch like I I know Final Cut Pro I love it but it just kind of feels like they don't really have a a
1:06:32
big they don't have a lot of resources dedicated to it it just seems like it must be like a small team and they are
1:06:39
very limited in what they can do probably because Final Cut Pro doesn't make them very much money and I kind of worry at some point if the features in
1:06:47
the subscription version of Final Cut Pro will start to outpace the Mac version I don't know if that's just me
1:06:53
being paranoid but that's kind of the way it feels and keep Pace with each other because you you need to be able to transfer
1:07:00
projects between the two yeah that's true and hopefully for that reason alone
1:07:06
the features will remain in parody and you know now they're they're both using
1:07:12
um Apple silicon like it seems like the apps are fairly interchangeable so they can develop for one app and then have it
1:07:20
deploy to different uh Apple Hardware but I just wish they were doing more man like I don't use logic as much anymore
1:07:27
but Final Cut Pro is like one of the best apps that Apple has ever released and I I just hate to see it fall behind
1:07:32
and I just wish they were dedicating more resources to it but that's neither here nor there that's just a personal uh observation uh Griffin left out the most
1:07:39
important and perhaps infuriating thing what's that in uh logic pro they've added virtual Basse player to go along
1:07:47
with the virtual sorry Le uh looks like we'll no longer be needing your services AI is coming for the four string people
1:07:55
virtual keyboard is too I think no instrument is safe leis no artist is safe just terrible next thing you know
1:08:01
virtual accordion well know anyone if anyone wants that the techn isn't there yet you
1:08:07
got might accordion switch
1:08:13
D yeah man there's gonna be no instrument or art form that's safe from AI it'll be curious to see how well that
1:08:19
stem splitter works I mean there are other apps that do that already obviously but uh you know maybe this will be better it's built in you don't
1:08:26
have to buy a separate thing we'll see okay look we're like perfectly in time to wrap up this show look at that
1:08:34
now now we're done with the Apple a military operation that's we keep it high and tight as
1:08:40
normal and now comes to the big question let's go through these predictions I
1:08:46
really have absolutely no idea who won because when we were when I was going through that Ken I was like dang I I
1:08:52
missed some big ones but I think I feel like all of us were feeling the same way so we really have no
1:08:58
idea uh who W I couldn't bear to look and then Griffin also what above
1:09:04
and beyond like his hair and tallied up the scores for those of you who sent
1:09:11
your predictions in so we'll find out which one of our listeners did the best
1:09:16
and we all just hope and pray that we did better than them let's hope we beat at least some of
1:09:22
them Lewis because otherwise I think we need to like what if what if every single person beat all of us every
1:09:28
single time well then we need to do a c a recasting of this show and we need to become the audience and let them be the ones doing the show which is entirely
1:09:34
possible okay Griffin how do you want to do this okay uh I'll just go through it and I'll should I just go to your site
1:09:40
and uh we can do it one at a time bring all right it's live we had some sound effects okay so the if if you didn't
1:09:46
listen to last week this this is the prediction game we we played I came up with a list of things we thought would happen we voted yes or no this is this
1:09:53
is the rulings 11in and 13-inch iPad Pro feature Ola displays we all voted yes we
1:09:58
all get that right oh boy iPad Pro prices start $200 higher airone voted for that alone he gets a point there I
1:10:06
did iPad Pro comes with the M4 chip we've been alluded to that he got a point
1:10:12
there iPad Pro supports mag safe uh Lewis was the only person who didn't
1:10:18
think that was going to happen and he's the only Point person who got a point there wait I said it was going to support mag safe yeah you did oh man I
1:10:25
going to have to go back I'm going to have to go back and listen to the tape I don't remember [Laughter] this uh 10.9 and 12.9 in iPad Air
1:10:33
feature many LED displays we all voted against that so we all get a point there okay iPad Air comes with face ID we were
1:10:39
all optimistic and we all lost a point I can't believe it yeah uh iPad Air adds
1:10:45
camera flash airphone and I lose a point no Lou and I are tied aren't we all new
1:10:50
iPads move front camera to horizontal side uh Lou and I voted for that L is pulling
1:10:56
I update or price change to regular iPad or iPad Mini leou is the only one who correctly Le is he he's he's way too far
1:11:04
ahead now at the iPad round I have three points airon has four points Lewis has six points a damn you
1:11:11
lose iPad accessories yeah this is where I really lose we we all got a lot of
1:11:17
points here like the three predictions were apple pencil 3 adds new squeeze gesture and find my support aluminum
1:11:23
magic keyboard adds function keys and bigger trackpad magic keyboard works with Vision Pro uh I got a perfect score
1:11:31
airon got two out of three LS got two out of three okay other Hardware section Vision Pro
1:11:37
is coming to more countries we all thought this was going to happen I honestly thought this is why they had an event in London and why the event was at
1:11:44
such a weird time they gathered all these people in Europe to meet at like Apple headquarters in the UK for what
1:11:51
you know like what I thought they did I guess they didn't huh no I guess they just chose to do that
1:11:57
for no reason I just must have missed that yeah any new Mac is released we all
1:12:02
knew that wasn't going to happen uh new seasonal watch bands and fine woven cases voted against you son of a gun you
1:12:09
definitely pulled this off I can't believe this you were just thrown spaghetti at the wall
1:12:16
Lewis miscellaneous section iOS 17.5 released within a week yes I think it's
1:12:22
coming next Tuesday event is shot on IP ad we all thought that was going to happen apparently on iPhone actually AI
1:12:30
is said more than 20 times I kept a counter going as I was watching the event I had like a little text edit
1:12:35
window every time I heard it I updated it it got to like the iPad Pro section and it was only at like three so I was
1:12:41
like all right whatever but I'm G to reuse that pick for WWDC so prepare yourselves a new product is 100% carbon
1:12:48
neutral air no got a point for that when are they going to presumably they're
1:12:54
going to make more than the Apple watch carbon neutral Le we might tie we might tie
1:12:59
leis yeah finally the event runs in over 55 minutes a pretty short 38 I got a
1:13:05
point there so the winner very surprising Aon 10 points Griffin 10
1:13:13
points Lewis 13 points oh baby that's for you leis I can't believe
1:13:22
it I actually I oh my God than thank you thank you thank
1:13:27
you you make me sick I can't believe it Lewis pulls it
1:13:32
offer score was what 17 yeah got a great score at the uh at
1:13:38
oh sorry um yeah let's go over the listener scores okay I go through them
1:13:44
item by item I'll just go through the highlights here so we received submissions from basically every
1:13:49
possible Avenue people on the cult club uh I got messages on Mastadon on Twitter
1:13:55
and I even got somebody like submit one over email by like the feedback email get any letters have you checked your
1:14:01
mailbox yeah yeah your physical mailbox no I don't I don't leave the house so those will be coming in later this week
1:14:07
yeah all right but um overall the
1:14:13
winner was submitted over email listener Betty Reyes with 14 points oh my
1:14:20
goodness schooled again well this one's for you Betty
1:14:25
Betty would like to thank the academy the people on the cult
1:14:31
cast for educating her on what will probably not happen a funny thing is all of the
1:14:36
listener submissions did better than Aon and I the lowest lowest score uh was was 11 out of 20 from all of our listeners
1:14:44
there were some 11s uh two 13s and Betty got a 14 I'm My Own Worst Enemy here
1:14:51
because I gave you all my logic and and LS Go's last and he's a able to like pick and choose you know what he wants
1:14:59
to believe in what he doesn't want to believe I mean the whole thing I have two point I have two points to say to that first of all I don't trust you so
1:15:06
like you can go first and say whatever you want and it's not going to affect my opinion I'm not talking about you I'm talking about lisis he does whatever I
1:15:11
say second of all it's a self okay Lewis lost the last game so you know it's it's
1:15:17
how the prediction Works no but this is why it works in ls's favor because he gets to listen to both of our arguments
1:15:23
and then he gets to make his own decision we're effectively convincing him what he should do so for WWDC Lewis
1:15:29
will go first and then we'll have to make our judgments yeah well I think what we should do next time is all type
1:15:35
in the chat on the count of three what we think it's going to be yay or nay it's going to be forever carved into
1:15:42
stone what we what we voted and then we'll all be going at the same time and then we give our logic and at that point
1:15:49
it will be a fair playing field because none of us can talk the other into doing anything cuz I think that you guys talked me into some answers too so it
1:15:56
goes It goes both ways I had the right answer but then of course you talked me out of it you you don't have to volunteer logic before we all give our
1:16:02
answers that you chose to do that and I chose to do that a lot too yeah but even if you don't get even if you don't give
1:16:09
your logic just like if I was thinking one way and then you and Lewis both say oh yeah this is definitely going to
1:16:15
happen and I'm like oh like I'm thinking to myself like am I wrong here you know like there's like pure pressure get it right so that's why I think it has to be
1:16:21
in real time all at the same time and then if we want discuss we can but you look look you should just learn to never
1:16:28
second guess yourself aone we don't have to litigate this here we can do this next time but
1:16:35
congratulations Lewis I'm so happy congratulations twice to bet Betty
1:16:41
congratulations the Betty who will be the host of the show starting next week we'll have to make those arrangements
1:16:47
course unbelievable all right well look that's all the coast we have for you guys this
1:16:53
week but the fun continues in the Cat Club if you're not there I I don't know what else you'd be doing cuz
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that's where we're having all these conversations we're hanging out we're having movie Nights we make popcorn we
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guys next time I'll never forgive you for this
1:17:44
Lou well look we can make that happen we can make that happen if only
1:17:51
they would Fork it over leis if only the cheap skates would have work it over
1:17:57
think how happy we could be we only need a th000 people to give us $5 only be 1,000 L may possibly 2,000
1:18:07
it' be great if we get 3,000 yeah it's fraction of a
1:18:13
fraction I think it's worth it but we'll convince them eventually
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eventually we'll get that $5 all right everyone I'm going to stop the Stream hope you have a good
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weekend bye y'all

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