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LEAKED: Apple’s plans for Vision Pro 2 AND Vision Air + iPadOS 19 overhaul! (CultCast #695)
May 20, 2025
This week: leaked details on Apple's plans for the next TWO Vision headsets! Plus: wel talk about the big iPadOS update on the way, more details on the folding iPhone and play more of your listener voicemails! Chapters: 0:00 Preshow 6:14 Intro 10:58 Squarespace 13:27 Vision Pro 2 25:12 Vision Air 32:38 Tariffs 34:29 iPadOS 19 37:54 Favorite Mac accessories 59:10 Your Speakpipe voicemails
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oh jeez oh my god i'm telling you need to see a doctor Lis
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this is devastating how will I ever recover i think they registered on the RTOR scale
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oh my god uh I don't even know if we're live i
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don't even know if that counted um in fact I don't even have our stream loaded i'm a little nervous this is the first
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time I've ever had a gym weed i hope it doesn't drive me over the top is that going to make you hallucinate i don't know i started wondering like what if
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it's got THC in it i don't think it does that seems like something you should know before you open it and start drinking it it's California anything
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could happen nobody knows louis is going full grandma meme on this can right here
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look at him full grandma meme he's doing it again there's the
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There he is it's the actual meme can I take a screenshot of this oh too late
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have you Have you not seen the grandma meme i don't know what you're talking about oh my gosh whipper snapper i I got
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I got to bring this up um grandma because you you literally
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just you literally just did this caffeine lion's mane uh there we go can
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you see the stream Louis i gotta go find it load the stream whoa what's going on
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there because you literally just did that in real time i've never seen anyone actually do it i wasn't sure it was a real thing until I got to see it until I
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saw you do it only I could find
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it thank god oh
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man oh god rip oh my goodness
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grandma finds the [Applause]
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internet she's not going to like what she finds
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there oh dear all right let's see
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here hi everyone we didn't do it and we're live should I send out the tweet
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action here lo that's a that's a fantastic
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idea that woke you up all right we got some people
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here i think we're ready to go i don't know it's already 1:00 should we Should
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we dink around for another half hour we we've already done How long have we been recording
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talk about it i mean the the roads conversation was fascinating louis is going to tell us all about his
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favorite freeway great conversation topic for the after show yeah seriously I can use maybe like five minutes of
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that no dude you should just post the whole thing don't bother editing let's just do a whole podcast on how great
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chat GPT is and how miserable Siri is in comparison it it's
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those two words don't even belong in the same conversation together like they're we could just type type that into chat
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GPT write a script for a one-hour podcast describing why chat GPT is so much better than Siri press I bet it
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spits it out like in two seconds yeah and it' probably be pretty good too and if you use chat GPT it only galvanizes
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just how far behind Apple Apple is on this stuff it's just unbelievable i mean but of course open AI is moving so
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quickly they're constantly like training new models doing new stuff adding new features it's actually useful it's
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actual AI not Apple AI you two can be my guest
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go off and do that and tell me how it is you just don't like AI huh you'd think that you would do not care remotely
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about that at all see but the thing is is like even though you don't care eventually I feel like you're going to
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have to care because it's just going to become so ubiquitous and other people are going to be using it and if you
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don't use it you're going to become well you're going to you're not going to be able to be productive or as I wrote I
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wrote an Apple script the other day that was that was a lot of fun oh Jack
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all right well should we go ahead and get this thing moving we got so much crapola to talk about today that we
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should probably crapola pardon the parliament should
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probably go ahead and get this thing moving uh all right i need to pause some
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notifications so I don't get dinged yeah good idea see this is where reduce
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interruptions the Apple intelligence yeah I've got that activated and I actually like that you know what oh my
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god I almost knocked the gym weed's kicking in
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um I have that I I reduc interruptions actually does help i actually feel more
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centered with that on me too um although I let Slack through it you know i said
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"Yeah let people if people because it's you know I'm at work." Yeah and uh so that's I just have to always pause Slack
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separately yeah all right i'm going to go ahead and queue up Mrs you know let's get this thing rolling oh Mrs
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d mrs d oh my dear i also like to pause interruptions so I can concentrate on
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mission love okay
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you know what I need to do is wonderful news i need to uh load in all the intros into chat GPT and then just have it
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start writing them for me that might be something we should try might get might get extra saucy
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i don't know how I can get any more saucy let's go ahead and uh not have you talk about any of that Mrs d we got a
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whole lot of show to to do and not a lot of time to do it so if you don't mind we'll get the music going in three
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two and welcome to the cold fast 30 plus minute up conversation you're going to hear all week long i'm your host L join
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me today if you get enough drinks in him he might just show you his collection of attempted escapy cult rider ears keeps
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on a leather necklace in his personal safe don't pretend like it doesn't exist
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he's a magicator for cults here don't even have a safe i feel like he should
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though i don't know how you got them to be also dehydrated did you put them in the dehydrator that's all I was curious about also with those doctors have
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warned that the constant bras of radio waves from wearing his vision pro at all times will surely cause his brain to
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mutate in some kind of unexpected fashion but they eagerly await the post-mortem experiments he's a rider
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called Matt Griffin Jones is here good evening i mean do I have ears or don't
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you can't tell you still got him that's good i heard that
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what can you hear Griffin can I hear what
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what's going on i have no idea griffin sounds really quiet here he sounds really quiet i don't know give me some
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levels there here are my levels i It sounds normal to me okay do you have ears Louis it's a gym weed again i think
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What is that that you're drinking honestly what is it i I I honestly don't know did El Kaney give it to you no no i
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bought it on the internet man okay so I'm sure it's great yeah never let Eli
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give you to buy this drink on the internet low price okay well it probably won't
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make you hallucinate i mean diabetes for sure but probably not hallucination
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no I think I'm going to be uh extremely focused and just you know I mean it's
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gym weed so it's supposed to help me you know is it gym workout or gym wheat weed
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gym weed oh Grandpa's gym weed yeah have you heard of gyms weed no
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that's something you don't want to eat yeah well what you're drinking sounds awfully familiar i wonder if that's
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where they got the name yeah possibly well in 10 minutes when you start hallucinating and drooling we'll find out all right well we got all sorts of
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just absolutely terrific topics to talk about this week if you didn't want the
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Vision Pro because it's too heavy and too costy well we got some hot leaks
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fresh out the oven what's coming down the pipe with Apple's next two Vision products let's see here it looks like we
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have an absolutely major iPad OS coming down the pipe which many people are
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saying is going to close the gap between the iPad OS and the Mac OS and make it
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more Mac-like so we'll talk a little bit about that lewis has got five Mac accessories is this that you can't live
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without or Jes can't live without i was gonna say I can't imagine there's any Mac
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accessories you can't live without although maybe we'll pipe him with some favorites couldn't believe you
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left the cultlo cloth off of that list you know I did notice that apparently we're just stings a little doesn't it
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well he Maybe you need to send him one where is he is he uh in India i was
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gonna say is he in India i I'm not sure that the um the shipping to India I'd be
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able to recoup from from the extra sales it's probably like $400 to ship that thing to India it's unbelievable how
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much what are the tariffs right now let's check 115 on a Thursday who well let's check back again at the end of the
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show probably be higher and we're going to wrap up with more of your uh listener voicemails i love these i'm so happy
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that you guys are actually sending these to us and if you want to send us some voicemails it's uh it's super easy to do
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not getting so many right now everyone's being bashful that we can't play the
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been getting some compliments which I always love but whatever you feel like you want to send us as long as it's is as as the uh the uh comment is like
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Cast for 10% off your first purchase all right I think we're sending over to Griffin to talk about the the uh Vision
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products coming down the pipe i want to say Vision Pro but they may not be pro products they're just vision amateur
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just and we actually products we actually have a plural number of vision products to talk about which is exciting
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uh so the first story we'll start with a more interesting one to me apple may slim down the Vision Pro 2 in weight and
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cost rumors suggest Apple could refresh the headset later this year it would seemingly be a minor update replacing
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the M2 chip with a faster M5 SoC however uh as we know Apple recently pawned John
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Gian Andrea to head up the uh AI team at Apple or Siri or one of the two I don't
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remember uh but he's no longer the the head of the encompassing uh Vision products team now they have new
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leadership under Paul Meade who wants to make bigger changes to the Vision Pro 2 headset than initially planned according
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to Mark Gurerman quote "The plan is to release a model that makes the headset both lighter and cheaper which was not
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in the um not in the docket for this spec bump update before i think they had
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a completely redesigned uh Vision Pro in mind but they decided to kick that down
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the can just so they could get something out faster uh well they're they're bringing some of that redesign work back
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the headset is currently one and a half pounds and $3,500 so God it's only one room to cut
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down in either dimension there it feels like it's so much heavier than one and a
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half by the way Griffin your audio is a little low can you see if you can bump it up just just a hair don't get crazy i
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will do that right now doesn't need to be overcooked system settings they the sound tile down
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in system settings and it throws me off every time how is is that too loud or is that That's better just right that's
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better yeah sorry continue no worries uh yeah so the the next generation one
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might get a little lighter and cheaper meanwhile Tim Cook is still committed to the development uh to the point of
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making lightweight AR glasses this is an interesting quote here tim cares about
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nothing else it's the only thing he's really spending his time on wow from a product development standpoint so you
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know as we know Tim Cook isn't that much of a product person he delegates the iPhone the Mac the stuff to other people
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but lightweight AR glasses is apparently Tim Cook's passion project he wants them to do this so and and that was a quote
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from an unnamed source within Apple right quoted by German
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that's a little hard to believe that that's the only thing he cares about but you would think the watch would be more
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in line with his interests yeah yeah it's probably somebody on the vision team who reported that to Garmin and so
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they they might think that's the only thing Tim cares about but it's good to know that because that is the ultimate
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end goal right like that's the light at the end of the tunnel that may be you know 10 years long but that's the that's
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that's the long game here and it's it's good to know that they're not giving up on the Vision Pro so quickly yeah man if
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they make it lighter I mean that's really the big one for me it the Vision Pro hearing that it's only a pound and a
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half it's hard to believe that's only as heavy as it is because when you have it on your head it feels like it's five
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pounds it just feels so heavy and if they can make that thing lighter so that it's more comfortable to wear for longer
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durations I I think that is a key obstacle they have to overcome if they made it lighter I wouldn't even mind the
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battery pack as long as it was lighter a big contri uh a big factor of the
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weight is the fact that all of the the weight is balanced on your head if you
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use the standard uh you know stretchy head strap and the one Yeah it's it it
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sits on your head by squeezing your head from the front and the back and that's that's what it does seem like a strange
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design it's like we're going to just hold on to your head as tightly as we can what I what I really like about the
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um Anna Pro head strap that I use for my Vision Pro you you use it without the light seal it's a head strap and it sits
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on your forehead your forehead you know I understand most people have a pretty solid like rigid forehead you know it's
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like Mine's Yeah uh that's a much better place to rest all the weight and I mean
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let me tell you that's how I use my Vision Pro and it is fantastic first of all without the Light Seal you have all of your peripheral vision back but it is
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incredibly comfortable wearing it that way i uh anytime I let somebody else try
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on my Vision Pro I take it off because it kind of feels like a you know kind of an an advanced technique and I put the
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light seal back on and I put my Vision Pro back on with the light seal and I was like man this is uncomfortable this
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this is the worst way to do it oh for sure yeah really should make their own first party head strap of some kind it's
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kind of surprising that they don't sorry Louis what doesn't the light seal like uh make the image like much more rich and isn't more
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like watching TV in a dark room than rather than in a light room you get more glare if you have a lot of lights in the
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room but I mean the Vision Pro it's it's so the screens are so bright and they're like so close to your eyes that it
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doesn't feel like darker when I'm not using the light seal and I will say the eye tracking is slightly less accurate
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when you're not using the light seal because there's more interference but I think the benefits just far outweigh the
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the light seal in my opinion i can see that and without the light seal it kind of feels like I'm wearing glasses
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already just you know really heavy ones in my house because I have Philips lights everywhere and I have HomePods i
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set a scene to adjust the brightness of the lights actually have a scene just for movie situations so I can say "Hey
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you know who set scene movie lights." and it turns off some of the lights and then brings the like the brightness of the other lights way down and that would
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be pretty cool if you had a room that was darker then you would wouldn't you wouldn't really need need the um the
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light seal and I really enjoy having peripheral vision exposed like I feel
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like it opens up the perspective in such a way that it makes the the viewing experience much more enjoyable it's the
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same reason I don't like wearing closed um back headphones like I much rather have open back headphones like I just
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feel like it adds like this voluminous uh ethereal quality to like the speakers
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and same with the viewing experience like I just I like to have my periphery open opened up expanded if you will like
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that drink that you're drinking to you yeah well if if you could actually tell me what it was
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I might be I might be interested i'm going into grandma mode but you
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Lewis went full grandma me mode when he was looking at the at the can earlier he couldn't quite see what it was in fact I
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don't know that you could see it could you cuz you still can't tell me what it is no well I could I It's filled with
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words that I don't recognize okay is this like an ad that you heard or
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like read on saw on Instagram or something like I think I got it from meh.com
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oh well now you know it's now you know it's going to be good let's see
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ashwagand oh caffeine i'm familiar with that one okay lion's mane i'm sure that's great
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for me that's supposed to be good for memory eltheanine oh dude it's got some good stuff in it and then and then at
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the bottom it says vegan and non-GMO nice it's like those are not ingredients
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no that's genetically modified it's got vegans in it oh my god no wonder I enjoy
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this so much no if it had vegans in it you would know
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because it would tell you all right what's next is that it do we
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So what I want to know is how are they going to make this thing lighter man i mean to me it seems like the most
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obvious thing they should do is just scrap that uh the googly eyes on the front nobody likes that anyway that's
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Has anybody ever said yes that's a great thing all I've ever read is like from ridiculous to horrifying
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i mean I can understand where they're coming from in that they they want to make sure that like when you're in the
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Vision Pro people can still talk to you and you don't feel like you're closed off but it everybody else who who sees
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me wearing the Vision Pro is like "No that looks creepy i don't like it." And and by the way how often does that
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happen i mean I I think that was Apple's thing right i mean I remember that whole video with the guy working in the office
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in the background with the headset like I've got a headset on and I'm perfectly aware of my surroundings and people
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interact with me commonly but I I bet you that the number of people who wear
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one of these things with other people in the same room with them is like small very small i mean if I had one I can't
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imagine wearing it around my wife i I just I just kind of can't mhm i can't
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either i I mean wait aside they should cut that feature out anyway
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because no one actually wants to interact first of all it's not nearly a It's not nearly bright enough to have
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people see your eyes when you're like actually engage with content inside of of your Vision Pro so they would have to
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fix that to even make the feature useful but even beyond that the the your
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eyeballs are so comically bizarre looking at peering at them through that
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headset that no person could ever have any kind of serious interaction with you in any way because you look like an
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alien from another planet in that headset and so just for that reason
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alone they either need to make that feature actually useful by not having your eyeballs look so
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bizarre increasing the brightness or they just need to get rid of it entirely because I I don't know that anyone is
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actually using it the way that they thought that they might in fact it's really interesting it's probably a very ambitious feature but that's just not
23:45
getting used like it's kind of a waste it seems sorry if they cut that they could get rid of all the glass on the front of the display and they could
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remove those displays from the front and you know I don't know if it would take up that much weight but it would be significant I bet yeah and and all the
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additional um Well I guess does it use this exact same sensors as as the eye tracking so maybe maybe they wouldn't
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have to I bet I bet there's extra like extra cameras that are just for the googly
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eyes i don't know i mean it has to do with the eye tracking anyways oh does it i thought it just meant that you were
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engaged with content inside of like the actual headset but you know they can communicate your engagement with some
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kind of like light pattern or something and then when you come close a green light for you i guess they already do
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that actually don't they it's been a while since I've used the Vision Pro but I think that they thought that you would
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be able to leave the Vision Pro on your face while you engage other people i don't there's no there's no wife on earth that's going to allow that i don't
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see Apple actually cutting it though i I I think Apple considers this an essential feature of the Vision Pro uh maybe they're right i mean look I don't
24:45
work for the industrial design team i could see them cutting it for the lowcost one though oh yeah they're going
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to have to have you ever answered the door with this thing on um no I have not i tried but the guy
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just screamed and ran a lot of people come to my door admittedly maybe you could order some gym weed and
25:05
answer the door with that on your He didn't even have doors until like several weeks ago lewis
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he just had like a tarp all right what else people like the
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Vision Pro Chatter let's talk about Air all right apple Vision Air headset could
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sport titanium parts and dark blue finish yeah the other upcoming headset they're working on possibly simply Apple
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Vision or Apple Vision Air will feature titanium components in strategic areas to reduce the devices weight according
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to information shared by prototype collector and leaker Kasutami on X while
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the exterior may still use aluminum for much of its construction titanium will form internal structures connectors and
25:47
the battery enclosure the leaks seem to align with expectations from recent reports that Apple will will address
25:52
weight and cost concerns in the second headset um I don't know what Oh is this a quote
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here quote "Our next friend in the Vision lineup is so thin features titanium to reduce weight including the
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connectors and battery." You know whatever we already said that uh it'll also come with an iPhone 5 era like
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midnight dark finish with like a hint of blue they'll probably call it midnight
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it looks very similar to like the MacBook Air midnight uh images shared by Kosutami show what appears to be so he
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actually has a part here uh he shared pictures of a redesigned power cable in that finish featuring an anodized
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aluminum connector in Apple's distinctive midnight finish the little cable that connects to the inside of the
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battery is a little different it only has eight pins instead of 12 so they're tweaking that potentially um while no
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time frame was specified in the leaks previous reports have suggested that Apple is targeting a released window between fall 2025 and spring 2026 for
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another Vision headset i guess we don't know if that model that's coming within the next year is the Vision Air or the
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Vision Pro 2 it sounds my my thinking is that if they're doing redesign work on
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the Vision Pro two beyond the spec bump then that'll probably get kicked down the road and this cheaper one will be
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the next one to arrive kasatami previously provided accurate leaks about Apple's transition from
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leather to fine woven and the iPhone 16 Pro's thermal design so this guy has done some stuff before okay i think that
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they have to do something sooner rather than later to keep this product in the
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zeitgeist i I it's it's it's so esoteric it's so expensive it's so
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unreachable by so many if they want this to actually succeed they need to do something to bring it into the hands of
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more people which would make developers more interested in it i I kind of wonder what what the active developer base is
27:50
for this product because I I don't want to say that it's doa but it's
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definitely got one foot in the grave what was that one stat that you had Griffin there was a a developer who's like they developed this app and and it
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had like six downloads or something steve Troutton Smith yeah he like wellown versions of of broadcasts like
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you know which is a popular app for like live streaming internet radio and live streams and stuff like that and six
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vision pro downloads wow wow dude that is I mean granted that was months ago so it
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might be up to might be up to 12 Vision Pro i remember this now that was for Vision Pro purchases so I already paid
28:30
for his broadcast app like months ago years ago so I don't care purchase but
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so maybe that it's not as damn thing as it sounds still that like the user base
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isn't big i'll just say it's not big and with the tariffs that are coming into place,000 vision pro even more expensive
28:49
yeah so Apple's got to do something i mean and I hope that they I really want to
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see them succeed with this product like I I can see the potential i really can't even though I returned my Vision Pro
29:01
it's too expensive for what it does it didn't do anything that I really loved enough to keep it for the price they
29:06
would have had to drop it significantly like for 1,500 bucks I might have kept it but that's how overpriced it is it's
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like even at 1500 I'm like does it do anything that I really would use on a regular basis probably not they need to
29:18
increase the fidelity of the screen they need to make the cameras better i don't care about a lot of the other features that
29:24
are included like the ghost eyes like the Absolutely um well I guess there's actually not a
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lot they can cut out that would not reduce the experience the screen is the big now envision OS 2.4 it runs Apple
29:36
intelligence yeah although I didn't consider that thank you so they need to get rid of the Apple Intelligence and uh and then maybe
29:44
it'll be worth the $1,500 but that's the thing like I can see people wearing these everywhere i don't know if that's a good thing for society i'll be honest
29:51
i think it's probably not i still remember those videos of people wearing them outside and so goofy looking oh I
29:58
know but the same thing about AirPods oh my god that's true but you know something that covers your eyes that's
30:04
different i mean people they can't It's hard to communicate or engage with someone when you can't see their eyes
30:10
everyone's really in their own silo which is probably why Apple added the eyes on the front because they were like "Okay well we want to make sure the
30:16
engagement uh you know potential is still there but the way they have it built it's not." So I don't know how you
30:23
solve that problem but if they don't do something to reduce the cost and make the thing more useful I just don't see Vision Pro
30:31
actually succeeding they've got to do something and they can't wait too long i'm just very excited for Vision OS 3
30:37
this will be the first software update where they've had like a real full year to add brand new features to the operating system and maybe I'm getting
30:44
my hopes up but I have high hopes for it what about uh what about the speakers
30:50
they could eliminate those and just say "Hey you have to use AirPods with this." Oh but the speakers are so good i've
30:55
heard that well that's why you get the Vision Pro but that's They're so good and that's why it's so expensive you
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know are they better than AirPods i don't have AirPods so I can't compare they were They were very good i do
31:07
remember that they were shockingly good actually better than AirPods i have Well
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I I have a uh an AirPod i have one original AirPod in one case i don't know
31:17
what happened to the other one but that's how little I used them wow i use
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AirPods every day all day me too i actually worry about my brain health me too like I I can almost feel my brain
31:28
matter heating up a little bit yeah same with mine like sometimes when I turn off the lights like I have a glow that comes
31:35
out of my ears i'm like "That can't be good that can't be good i want to get that checked."
31:40
Well and they look in there they can't see anything it's just too bright i think it might be because of the AirPods but I use AirPods way too much i mean I
31:47
I I use them every single day for hours usually and I just sometimes I wonder
31:52
I'm like "This has got to be shooting some kind of you know radioactive frequency through my brain." You It's
32:00
like "Oh you better turn your cell phone off when you're pumping gas you don't want it to ignite or anything." I mean
32:07
it's true what is this 1983 like that's good that is a good tip because you don't want to blow up you think 1983 is
32:13
the old days i mean it's pretty old Louis seems like just yesterday not in Louis years
32:21
lewis was like you know the greatest year of my life was you you turned 40 right
32:29
it's a big transition all right let's move on god who wants to talk about Vision Pro for this long i apologize
32:35
were we going to talk about the tariffs you cut that story i think we decided to skip i didn't mean to to cut that story
32:40
decided not to talk about the tariffs because we don't really even know if if what we know now is going to be accurate
32:46
10 minutes from now i'm going to just bring it up because as of this moment we had heard that there was going to be a
32:51
carveout for Apple products and some other in the most bizarre way possible a
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press release Friday night by customs and border protection but in fact at
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least according to what we know now there is not going to be any exemption for iPhones and Macs and other Apple
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products so the advice to buy now if you're interested still stands don't panic buy
33:17
but I don't see if these tariffs still stand i don't see how Nintendo how Apple
33:23
don't raise their prices i just don't see how that's possible so just something to keep in mind we'll keep we'll keep tabs on this story again we
33:29
don't want to talk about tears too much it's kind of like outside the I don't know i hate to say outside the scope of
33:35
perview yeah outside the scope of what we to typically talk about but it does affect all of us and if you're thinking
33:40
about buying anything then it's going to affect what you buy so you're talking about a new semiconductor tariff right
33:47
that's going to apply to everything so I mean that's a the reason I don't even want to talk about it is it's such a I
33:53
don't want to say the word out loud s show it's just it's a tumbling nightmare
34:00
buzz information disinformation and just complete wackiness
34:05
so let's move on then let's talk about the five accessories Lewis thinks we're just can't live without wow the other
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thing huh oh whoa my bad gee man who's on the gym weed now okay well I did the
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other kind earlier today but yeah it's it's almost like one of us makes the show notes on Monday and Tuesday and
34:23
sends it to you like a week like several days in advance and nobody looks at it until 10 minutes before we do the show i
34:29
I'll have you know I did look at it at least 11 or 12 minutes before the show so that that is that is deeply unfair
34:36
and I take offense to that story yeah so I don't know why I skipped over this but
34:41
we thought you might want to know about this as well ipad OS 19 may finally blur the line between iPad and Mac i'll
34:48
believe it when I see it but as the story goes this is coming from German so
34:53
we know that it passes the sniff test it seems Apple will address many of the
34:58
limitations of iPad OS and iPad OS 19 this year i kind of wonder exactly what
35:06
how that will manifest but okay um according to German quote "This year's upgrade will focus on productivity
35:12
multitasking and app window management with an eye on the device operating system more like a Mac." Wow now we've
35:19
heard this before so I don't want to get your nips at full salute
35:25
but I'm curious especially as the owner of a new iPad Pro I would love to have
35:31
it be much more like a Mac that actually might make me use it more for productivity but we'll see um let's see
35:37
here all these changes will make iPad OS behave more like MacOSS than iOS that
35:44
would be great but hopefully they're not just faking it and is there anything else in
35:51
here the big iPad OS 19 overhaul will go well with the M5 iPad Pros that should
35:57
debut in Q3 that better not be true or early Q4 h this year they entered late
36:04
stage testing inside Apple in March of this year with mass production slated to begin in H2 2025 what is H2 second half
36:15
second half oh I know i was like are we missing an O at the end of that statement h2o who wrote this
36:21
get the flog stick out Lewis okay so there you go there's your iPad update
36:27
hopefully this means that Apple is actually uh raising up iPad OS and not just uh with the rumored software
36:33
redesign dumbing down Mac OS so that it's as bad as iPad OS that'll be another way to make them make that
36:39
parody they've tried this before and it just didn't really work well like stage manager and all that other BS
36:45
um I don't know i feel like they need to make iPad OS well they need to make Mac
36:52
OS just work on iPads i don't know that they would ever do that but I feel like that's kind of they've already got it
36:57
figured out so I mean just stage manager is like sort of you know surface level interface stuff there's still a lot of
37:03
like technical limitations that hold back the iPad from doing a lot of real work like the the fact that you can only
37:09
have one audio stream at a time you can't play multiple pieces of media or you can't That's true have more than one
37:14
app accessing the microphone you can't do systemwide utilities like clipboard managers or you know additional
37:21
additional extensions like that that you can on the Mac it's it's just so much more limited than the Mac and and and it
37:27
seems like needlessly i don't know i mean it's got an M4 chip in it why does it have to be so limited it can't do any
37:34
background tasks so you can't export something in like Final Cut and switch to a different app like Yeah man it's
37:40
It's Yeah I don't get it so I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with it like the the Finder
37:46
is is like a you know a real file management app and like files by comparison on the iPad just feels like a
37:51
sandbox yes like a toy 100% agree all right Lewis should we talk about the
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five Mac accessories that Reeseest can't live without i'd love to hear about one that you can't live without but I don't
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know if you have any uh yeah that would be the power cable uh
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let's see um a good router that seems to be put together this post uh you know he's
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been using a a Mac for more than a decade and uh as he points out in his article sometimes the Apple accessories
38:23
just don't cut it you just want something expensive and there are things that perform better or almost as good
38:30
for a lower price well better as he points out many third party accessories offer better functionality comfort and
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value yeah and uh let's see at the top of his list let's just go let's just
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talk first I'm going to do is just mention the ones that he talks about okay logitech MX Keys S fantastic
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keyboard logitech what's it called mxm
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3S believe that's what I got in my hand right here mine too get them up there uh
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let's see cowdigit Thunderbolt dock uh I got my issues with this but okay
39:13
uh he's this weird wacky base US Nomous charging station dude this thing
39:19
actually looks cool man it does and it's got like a retractable cable it's a pretty cool thing um he's reviewed all
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these products okay every single five in one i like
39:31
that it has like a um an iPhone or a like a Mag Safe charger that that it
39:38
pops up pops up out of That's really cool it's pretty cool looking yeah and it's got a you know I believe this one
39:44
has like a a little I don't know something that like a a
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display that shows charging status and stuff it's it's got it's it's a pretty cool looking device you see that little retractable charging cable thing there
39:56
i'm of dual minds on that you know cuz like I like it but then it's just one extra thing to break you know well
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that's that's what I asked him to uh add to the review like how how long have you used it how good is it how does it feel
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is it actually solid i I actually bought some base US um charging cables that Oh is it Bass US
40:13
is that how you say it i don't know is it Basus i don't know i thought it was B or something it's one of those Amazon
40:19
brands you know yeah i don't know i don't know how to pronounce it actually um Okay
40:26
but uh the cable seems on that thing it has a it's a a weird cable that has like
40:31
a round disc and you pull it from either side and it stretches out you know yeah
40:36
expands to like and the retractable cable actually seems good i've had some horrible retractable cables in my life
40:43
but this one seems pretty solid who hasn't yeah it's what a nightmare zone right let's see and his final thing uh
40:50
Bose Quiet Comfort headphones i don't know man i don't know i
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just the Bose Quiet Comfort headphones like I I I mean I just feel like they're one of like the uncoolest products you
41:02
could possibly put on your person i mean te tell me you're a uh a
41:10
corporate you know you're in a corporate job that you hate and travel too much without telling me you're in a corporate
41:17
job you hate and you travel too much it's just because they were so popular for so long they were so far ahead of everyone else it's also because they're
41:23
ugly it's also because they're ugly they're just really ugly they don't have that uh AirPods Max sort of toaster on
41:30
your ear or even like the Sony headphones look like the Sony headphones are are beautiful but the Bose
41:37
headphones look like they were designed by the company that makes like the generic products for Best
41:43
Buy you know like they just got no pizzazz no pache and I think that's
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important he doesn't mention that as one of the cons in his thing yeah well that says a
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lot but uh he likes He's also wearing socks and flip-flops Lewis i have a feeling he
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likes them because they're cheaper offer excellent noise cancelling socks and flip flops yeah okay hey what worse yet
42:06
Birkenstocks i doubt it let's see um the whole reason I wanted to even bring
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up this post aside from that it's you know fine post uh it's good conversation starters you know what do you guys use
42:18
oh man i think it's hilarious that what two out of three of us have the same mouse yeah well I also have
42:26
um the this is not the same one that he talked about oh you got it you got the extendo version huh so I've got the
42:34
Logitech MX Business Mini i forget exactly i love this keyboard though and I love that it
42:41
connects the business and you're complaining about the Bose Quiet Comfort being too corporate well I don't mind
42:47
that it's made for business i think that that it looks like it's corporate and uninspired like this keyboard actually
42:54
looks cool um MX I think it might be the the Logic MX Business it has a special
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dongle that's like encrypted um which I think has a more reliable signal so it's
43:05
a little bit different and also this is the mini version but if you've never used I probably don't have to mention this but like when you get these
43:11
Logitech products they connect to three different devices at one time which I use all the time i also have the um do
43:19
they still call it the the MX Master Mouse the MXM 3S so absolutely
43:26
terrific mouse love it and um I I can't live without the Logitech mice they're
43:33
they're the best i I just can't even believe people um work using an Apple mouse i I every
43:40
Apple mouse I've ever used I just hated and I I have a magic trackpad which I
43:45
sometimes use but girlfriend's getting ready to break out his Apple mouse oh yeah i I don't use an Apple mouse either
43:51
i use a magic trackpad because I'm an enlightened finger swiper and I have been you know man ever since the 2009
43:58
double A powered Magic Trackpad and you know what i absolutely love this thing the one thing that the desktop version
44:03
doesn't do that the uh laptop ones do is it doesn't have the h like the same haptic feedback but yeah you've got one
44:09
too it's great plugs in you got the expensive black model i have the the cheap white one what the one thing I
44:16
don't like about it is that it's not silver i don't want it to be black and I don't like how the white one is white i
44:21
want it to be a neutral silver but oh well what can you do they sell spray paint at the uh what do you got there
44:27
you got a Home Depot there in Ohio probably not where he is you know while we're on the Yeah tractor
44:34
Supply there's probably one of those nearby for sure what were you going to say Griffin
44:39
while we're talking keyboards though if you have nothing else to Oh you're gonna have the interesting clicky keyboards
44:44
right you've got 10 of them i've I've talked about my uh Model F keyboard before i've written a review about that
44:50
but you know what recently I switched it up um and I've been using this product here which is the I've also written a
44:56
review about this back to it this is a uh Tinker Boy adapter it's USBC on one
45:02
end and Apple ADB on the other oh my god i've temporarily switched back to the
45:10
Apple extended keyboard god which is how old is that too big for my camera uh
45:16
they started making these in 1988 and they made them until I think 1990 dude
45:22
that brings back memories i used to have one of those I think with my Apple 2 GS damn like Yeah look how beautiful
45:30
that keyboard is i mean just everything about it it's just really happy about
45:35
Here's something I'm really happy about so ADB keyboards have a uh power button on them that used to turn on the Mac but
45:44
obviously when you plug it into a new Mac it doesn't do anything way ahead of its time but what I did is I remapped
45:50
the key i used a program called Carabiner Elements and I wrote a custom script so that when I press that button
45:56
it simulates the keyboard shortcut of control command Q and locks my screen oh
46:01
nice so I have a dedicated lock button right on my keyboard that that reuses the the the old power button which I'm
46:07
really happy about i'm truly impressed you lock your keyboard or you lock your Mac by pressing that yeah I just put
46:14
When you're at your house by yourself who are you locking it from Griffin it's It's just Are you aware your dog is
46:21
going to steal your bank codes his dog's a hacker you never know
46:29
okay you know what back in right now you don't need a reason to do something with scripts it's still cool
46:36
hang on i got I got to raise my monitor because I have to plug the monitor i don't know what we're looking at here
46:41
looking at the back of my monitor okay uh All right
46:46
is there anything else I want to promote accessories to talk about oh man i can promote so much stuff but we just want we wanted to talk about We can't do this
46:53
now we want to promote cool office stuff the one thing I will say about the Cal Digit Doc they they make excellent stuff
46:58
so I don't I don't want to trash them at all um but does this one
47:04
have Okay that's the problem for the price they charge for this dock which I think the price is
47:12
$380 this should without a doubt inexcusably come with a 10G Ethernet
47:20
port i hate It's 2025
47:26
i think 10G should be ubiquitous at this point this whole 2.5G nonsense give me a
47:32
break man if you're going to do 2.5G just spend the extra 10 cents and let's just go 10G 10g should be everywhere
47:38
they just came out with the the the TS5 didn't they does that have Did they
47:44
look this up cal Digit we heard a story about it on Cultame actually digit cal Digit ts5
47:53
i think so i bet I won't have 10g let's look it's uh I guess we'll we'll put
47:59
this link in the show notes uh let's see the PS5 Plus expands Mac and PC
48:04
workflows with the most advanced port selection ever uh 3x Thunderbolt 5 2.5G
48:12
ah no wait the TS5 Plus has 10 gigabyte
48:17
oh okay there's another one that I'm not looking at here so this is the TS5 that I'm looking at okay so they got Where's
48:23
the TS5 Plus ts5 let's see if I can put a plus at the end of this let's see if it
48:29
works does that work it's the plus is spelled out no okay
48:36
how much is that 600 6200 megabits per second SSD speeds uh that broke their
48:43
website 140 watt charging a lot of stuff t They still sell their TS3 Plus why why oh you
48:52
can't even buy it yet it's um not even shipping yet i should ask them to send me one of
49:01
these okay there you go so they they're coming out Cal Digit's coming out with a new dock the TS5 Plus finally 10G
49:10
included i just don't think that you should pay this kind of money for a dock without having 10G 10g makes such an
49:18
absolutely massive difference now I will caveat that with you have to have the other network network equipment to handle 10G but that's becoming slowly
49:26
more and more available and and cheaper and cheaper and having 10G so like I
49:32
have 10G here in the cult command center um I have a 2.5G connection between here
49:37
and my house which I want to fix just so I can transfer stuff more quickly between here and my house and my fiber
49:44
um provider now has 2G available for download so I'm like "Oh shoot that's
49:49
pretty." Although it's download only and 1G up so um but this looks like a great
49:55
doc man thunderbolt 5 talking about wasting money I paid for the 10 gigabit Ethernet
50:01
on my Mac Mini ah and here I am in the middle of nowhere
50:07
you know I I think that was still smart it's a very future-facing feature try saying that five times fast you can't
50:13
and eventually you're going to be moving on up to the east side no doubt with a deluxe apartment in the
50:20
sky and you'll have a better internet connection and then you'll you might actually be able to leverage the 10G but
50:25
the 10G is more for inside your house i mean for connecting to the different devices inside your house and and I have
50:32
um 10G on my Synology 1522 plus and I'm able to transfer and this is probably a
50:39
limitation of the types of drives I have in the Synology but like between 4 or 500 gigs or four or 500 gigs 4 to 500
50:46
megabytes per second which is really fast for for um the network and I could
50:52
go even faster if I put better drives in this analogy but Having 10G is just
50:59
going to make it so that as more 10G stuff becomes available you could transfer stuff between your NAS or other computers you on your on your actual
51:05
network i just I wouldn't I wouldn't buy something that had less than 10 at this point so this is interesting so you
51:12
can't even buy it yet I don't think does it say you can buy it oh they just unveiled it dang look at that man
51:20
thunderbolt 5 this This might be the best This might be the new best like
51:25
Apple doc on the market i have a um You got a picture of it i not seeing nothing
51:31
am I not showing it no I'm showing it on the stream are you oh yeah 100% are you
51:37
sure i'm positive 100% positive because I'm looking at the stream output
51:42
you need to You need to put your glasses into granny mode again it's way behind that's why I don't know why it does that
51:48
by the way yeah it's all right disregard me you better angle those glasses down
51:53
there get a good look at it i don't understand what happened this is still the ultimate Apple accessory i swear to
52:00
God are those the Apple Pro 2 airpods Pro 2 they're just they're the best man
52:06
try sticking those quiet comfort things in your pocket not going to happen these are the best i personally prefer the
52:13
AirPods 4 with A&C i think those I personally prefer waiting for AirPods Pro 3
52:21
well you enjoy those silicon tips in your ears i love and I can't believe how long they've lasted and how much better
52:28
they've gotten i want to promote one thing i've got a bunch of stuff on my desk in fact we should probably make this a whole episode at some point where
52:34
we just talk about the accessories that we use a lot but I mean we've only actually been doing the show for like what 40 minutes so we have room for more
52:41
oh my god i got to wrap it up soon though um I'm not going to show this too much
52:46
but in my hand I'm holding Do you guys know what this is is that a a thing to
52:52
blast air electronic batterypowered air duster yeah there we go and I have been
52:58
testing this thing out and so far I am extremely impressed so I want to see
53:05
what it does to your hair should we Should we see it's really loud actually should we do it
53:10
so it's got like it's got like three modes um so this is like the this is like the
53:17
low power mode and on the low power mode you have to press and or you can press the button
53:22
once hear how loud it is wow okay
53:27
slight slight movement of the fro slight movement there okay i'll put this into
53:32
um mid power mode this one you can also just tap the button and it will just work
53:39
oh now we're getting some action whoa you're going to go full in
53:45
high mode aren't you my wig's going to fly off if we're not careful and uh this this is the full power mode and
53:53
uh I actually feel like I should be wearing hearing protection for this because it's so dang loud and you can see like it has like a little Get this
54:00
to focus like a little it has like a metal turbine fan in there man it's like no joke sheesh is it Can you Can you uh
54:07
dice carrots and stuff with that they can snip the tips of your fingers off okay you ready
54:16
oh my god you hear how loud this thing is it sounds like you live next to the Boeing
54:21
test plant i'm going to put this up to the mic so you guys can hear it so if you want to cover your ears or turn it down for a sec it's loud
54:32
it It's powerful anyway more on that at a different time i'm still testing it
54:37
who makes it i'm not gonna tell you yet really not gonna tell you so our listeners can't find a link in the show
54:43
notes or anything or Well no because I want to do a uh a full on under review on this so we'll So we'll definitely
54:49
talk about it more spoil the pri surprise i don't want to give you give away all the details because we're not doing that yet but um all right anything
54:57
else that we want to mention before we move on uh if we're talking external storage I mean my absolute must have Mac
55:04
accessory is the uh other world computing Thunder Bay 4 oh yeah man i'm
55:10
ter of hard drives in there which I have configured this is probably stupid but I
55:16
have them configured in RAID zero so that I have the maximum space available which uh you are right
55:24
because one of if if one any one of those hard drives fail then I sort of like lose access to all the files on
55:30
there but uh on top of that I also have them configured in the uh APFS Apple
55:35
file system one continuous unit yeah that uh splits them up and dynamically so like I it's
55:41
one APFS volume but it's split between uh two different discs so like one is my
55:47
uh what do you call it time machine backup another one is host my archive of
55:53
Apple videos and personal work and stuff like that a lot of stuff so I use my
55:59
Synology for a similar use case although I I truly envy that you can directly connect to yours because you're going to
56:05
get way faster access times doing it that way i don't know why there are no I want a
56:12
NA I want I want a device that is like a NAS but you can also connect via Thunderbolt and just use it as like a
56:19
desktop editing bay and there doesn't seem to be a product that exists at least with the features that I need the
56:25
other killer feature that I want and this is something that Synology does I think better than anyone else is they
56:31
have like their Synology hybrid um Naz i think that's what it's called hibernaz S
56:39
HN I don't think that's the name of it but what it does is it allows you to use
56:45
uh drives of various capacities from various manufacturer manu manufacturers in one RAID setup with redundancy so
56:53
like typical RAIDs if you want like a RAID five where you have redundancy built in with for for one drive I think
56:59
one drive failure all the drives have to be the same size and and preferably the
57:04
same manufacturer well that's super expensive because you have to go out and buy you know five drives five drives six
57:10
drives but the Synology you can just put in whatever drives you have available and it will actually use them in a hybrid array which is a super killer
57:17
feature there's only maybe one other company I think that has a feature that's like that i think they're called
57:24
Terra Master i think um they're a newer NAS
57:30
company and their hardware specs on their on their new has is like just totally bonkers but their software like
57:37
no one's gotten anywhere close to like the software quality that that Synology has people criticize Synology because
57:43
their hardware is kind of underpowered which I agree it it actually is but you but you get a ton of features from a
57:48
software perspective and their software is very reliable so all these other companies have popped up and they're selling actually UG Green has a new has
57:56
um that people seem to like and it's got much better hardware specs and even the
58:02
the UG green software is pretty good but it's not nearly as good as Synologies
58:08
because Synology has been doing this for I don't even know know how long 20 years i have no clue so all these companies
58:13
have to play catch-up but there's a lot of interesting stuff going on in the NAS space a sentence you may never thought
58:19
that you would hear interesting stuff going on in the NAS space i love a good NAS but the perfect one would have like
58:26
some kind of like hybrid RAID um capabilities and also the ability to
58:32
allow you to plug in via Thunderbolt and to be used as a NAS nothing like that exists yet i have to sit here and wait
58:38
um someone from the chat saying 500 bucks for the Cal Digit TS5 Plus maybe 500 bucks i wonder if that's
58:46
pre or post tariff price geez that's a lot of money man 500 bucks i bought a
58:52
Naz from otherworld computing or not a Naz pardon me a dock which has 10G and a
59:00
bunch of other really fast ports and I think it was like maybe 250 so I don't know why Cal Digits is so
59:07
expensive i guess it includes Thunderbolt 5 so and a lot of other newer technologies that does it all right it's expensive technology to
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license for sure let's see anything else or should we go ahead and let's wrap up with the speak pipe messages you ready
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let's do it mhm all right now have you listened to these this time i actually did listen to these cuz I wanted to cut
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out any of the um for some reason people seem to be having troubles and by some
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people I mean one person in particular was sending an audio file isn't full of like really um annoying crackling sounds
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i'm like were you eating Cheetos during this recording so we're going to just go through these in no particular order if
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you want to leave us a voicemail for a future episode speakpipe.comthecult i need to come up
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with a better vanity url for that speakpipe.comthecast by the way if you want to watch the video stream and
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you're hearing this watch.cocast.com watch.thecast.com we'll take you to our YouTube playlist of all of our archived
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episodes without further preamble what just happened this one's
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coming from the Apple loyalist here we go thank you so much for playing my
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voicemail that was really nice of you oh we must have played his voicemail last week
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okay griffin's making a face he's trying not to say something no I thought I thought we had one last
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week but we didn't play it but we had also played with messages from Ben the week before oh you know his name that's how often he's left voicemails i think
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this is Ben from Spokane he calls I I like that he's given himself a new name now he's the Apple loyalist he doesn't
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refer to himself as Ben anymore like like he's created a character for himself for the show that he's now using
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i I respect that great show you guys did an excellent job this is the Apple
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loyalist calling in once again and I really hope that Trump exempts Apple
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from tariffs as a matter of fact he should well look I have bad news for you Ben
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hey you know what who knows by the time this airs i was going to say you have no idea what the day holds this thing has
1:01:16
been all over the place i agree with Ben 100% and I would say even more so I hope
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that for the sake of the nation he exempts Nintendo because we all need entertainment now more than ever and
1:01:27
with that Switch 2 pending the price is so high they can't take it up any higher apple can afford to take their prices up
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a little bit i think people will pay them i'm not sure Nintendo can griffin what were you going to say
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i mean we we were going to talk about Mario Kart World but Airfon has not seen the direct yet i haven't seen it yet
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we're we're just teasing that for next week next week we're going to talk about it yeah I promise to watch it and uh
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Griffin and I have discovered that we're both very interested in Nintendo news and developments so and more
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interestingly than that we've also discovered that it really irritates Lewis which makes me want to talk about it i've never seen anything irritate
1:02:04
Lewis so much than our conversation about video games last week he almost injured his eyeballs with all the rolls
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all right let's go to the next one uh I did pre-list to this one i
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hesitated on even playing it to be honest with you if I'm just being transparent but let's just go ahead and do it anyway i don't know what's going on with this guy but let's listen to it
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bring back Leandro it's Leander what it's Leander not Leandro
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oh um where's the uh freak press the freaking delete button
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there you go interesting that's quality yeah I wasn't expecting any
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theater so theater of the mind yeah he demonstrated multiple of his
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personalities there so that was interesting for our entertainment okay we got one more this one I think is more
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substantive uh this is Abzer abazer from Texas I think let's see
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hello governors this is aba calling in from Houston i just wanted to say great
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job on the podcast guys i've been listening to you guys since high school i'm a adult now wait
1:03:20
i like how you point that out i'm an adult now i wasn't before he's saying that we helped him become a man lewis I
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think that's what he's implying and I can tell i can hear it in his voice have a family and a baby and it's He had a
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baby boy I hope he's I hope he's resting only podcast I've been listening to
1:03:39
consistently you guys always do a phenomenal job and I think you guys should just really give yourselves a pat
1:03:46
on the back um it's it's the only podcast that's not just spewing boring
1:03:52
facts and you guys are always so hilarious dude he's right he's 100%
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right well so many podcasts are full of boring facts we don't bother with those at all
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that is I am honored to hear this and funny um one request is if you guys
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could do uh get together of the whole old crew with Buster Big old Heiny Tiny
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Sweet Really High Leander Kaney that would be an amazing reunion episode i
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think you guys should really plan on something but we've been discussing this thank you guys as always and uh have a
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great week and keep those nips nice and perky for me oh you know I will i always
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do we were talking about this in our in our private side chat and my idea would be to do a reunion episode with Buster
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and Alex Heath and Leander but not with Aron and Lewis just them with me uh w
1:04:51
with these three people who I've never met sounds like a power grab to me yeah I know uh usurper hey look if we're
1:04:58
going to do something with Leander we're going to have to bring him in via crystal ball he's not still alive is he
1:05:04
he is still alive have you know that for sure or are you just interacting with his AI persona
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uh I haven't seen him in person in at least
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he was out of town he was out of town for a while so all right i think that's
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a great idea i would consider it i I I in fact I've been talking to big old Heiny um all last week he and I have
1:05:28
been texting back and forth i went into my Instagram account because my mom keeps sending me Instagram posts like
1:05:35
that's my my mom's new thing she just sends me stuff on Instagram and I keep telling her I don't use Instagram like I
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can't because you know Instagram they're so annoying if you go there without signing in they don't let you look at anything and so I would go
1:05:48
and try to look at whatever you know meme or whatever she's trying to send me and it wouldn't let me look at it and so
1:05:53
finally I was like "Okay I'm I feel so bad because my mom keeps trying to send me these things and I keep not looking i
1:05:59
just keep ignoring them." And meanwhile she's probably like "You know my loving son he's going to love this." And she's like trying to be you know she's trying
1:06:06
to send me things that she thinks that I'm going to enjoy and I just keep ignoring it so finally I resigned up for my Instagram account or I logged back in
1:06:12
and one of the very first things I saw was a picture of me and Buster at the Colt Command Center like right after we
1:06:18
had finished building it and I was like "Oh man I wonder a if Buster is still
1:06:24
alive because his lifestyle is so dangerous which is true." And so I
1:06:30
texted him and we've been going back and forth he would love to come on i'm sure he would do it he He's uh he's doing
1:06:36
well i mean he's got like a great job in fact they sent him to like NASCAR or something to cover i just I just saw
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that on Oh that's right you sent me that pitch yeah i'm like "Dude are they are they hiring that sounds fun." So we
1:06:48
could totally get him back on el Kaney on the other hand more than El Kaney alex Eheath i don't know i call him big time
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now this would have to be an after hours thing because everybody has jobs well that's that's fine but now that Alexie
1:07:03
Heath is on the verge I mean his ego was already so huge we could barely contain him but now that he's on the verge do
1:07:09
you think he's going to come back here i mean he might why wouldn't he well
1:07:15
episode 700 five time you know it's of course we're gonna have to figure out how to do Skype or that is true at that
1:07:23
point video may not be possible he did an interview with Keanu Ribs you remember that Lewis
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uh you remember the interview with Keanu and and and his eyes were just filled
1:07:35
with starlight he couldn't believe he was so starruck he could he could barely believe that he was living the life that
1:07:41
he was living was this after a Matrix movie came out is that what it was i think it was after it was like when the
1:07:46
new Matrix movie was coming out because they had used a bunch of technology to like create like a digital digital
1:07:52
persona of Kiana Reeves in the movie or something and and Alex Heath got to interview
1:07:57
him so I don't know we can talk about it though it'd be really cool if we could do like a live event you you could have
1:08:03
your people talk to his people or maybe we'll just have our people talk to each other yeah isn't that what you just said
1:08:11
pretty much yeah I think the way I said it sounded nicer though all right well look anything to add there Griffin
1:08:19
i checked to see if episode 700 would be some like significant or coincidental week but it would just be uh May 22nd
1:08:25
all right this is going to be episode 700 and all right because you know WWC is coming up so I was like "Oh well there's a line." But uh no that'll be
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episode 704 703 that's definitely not the week to do it
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probably not although let me say that he's going to be gone that week and uh I have brought
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on I have signed up a special guest for that week in your absence wow okay yeah
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I might be gone for a couple weeks man i'm going to go to Oh jeez we'll have to figure this out we We should probably
1:08:57
You going to space we should actually probably think this through you You This is a great idea it's super novel Lewis
1:09:03
we're going to space with an all male cast just a bunch of guys it's going to be the first time that happens don't
1:09:10
forget your Daisy i'll be wearing Daisy Dukes for the occasion just because it's hot in there
1:09:16
i'm borrowing them from Buster so we got to figure out how this is all going to work because I'm I'm going to to Georgia
1:09:23
and Florida in June you're going to be gone for two weeks i I thought it was just one i'm going to be gone for two
1:09:29
weeks okay I'll line up a second special guest well well let's let's talk about it first because I might I might still
1:09:34
be able to do the show um although we'd have to do audio only I think at that point but we should figure out something but
1:09:41
yeah I'm glad we're talking about this now live on the air to to actually figure out my appearance excellent this is fascinating hey you know what at
1:09:47
least I'm giving you some kind of heads up you know how I know Lewis is gone he doesn't show up for the show and then
1:09:53
it's like oh that's not true louis is in Italy not true okay great
1:09:58
or or I get like one day it's like hey here are the notes oh I can't be here tomorrow oh what's going on i'm going to
1:10:04
Italy it's not true all right I'll stop giving you a hard
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time i think that's all we got should we go ahead and just line up the music right there
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that's it that's all the cool casts we have for you guys this week but you know what the party continues you can come
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1:10:47
social media yes I am install Masttodon he's on Maston i I occasionally post a blue sky but I I don't really check it
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too often all right i don't really post much on X anymore i'm more of a lurker but if you want to go hang out with
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Griffin you can find him just just just enter D griffin Jones into your favorite AI GPT and you'll find all the places
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that he likes to hang out uh let's see here this has been the Cast the best 30 plus minute out conversation you're
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really appreciate did I mention supportcast.com i feel like I should have said that okay good uh and we will
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let's Huh oh yeah for sure that's the place
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got to look for a withdrawal [Music] i have seen some odd withdrawals in
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