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M4 Macs, new iPads, iPhone SE are all coming — even Vision Pro 2! (CultCast #667)
Mar 11, 2025
A river of new Apple products are incoming, including new M4 MacBook Pros which arrive in mere weeks!
Chapters:
0:00 Preshow
6:11 Intro
12:48 Squarespace
15:28 Hugo Last Honorary Segment
16:40 M4 Macs and iPads
29:59 iPhone SE 4
34:33 iPad Air
38:32 CultCloth
43:23 Vision Pro 2
48:42 Apple Smart Display
56:59 AirPods 4
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0:01
L good grief I can't believe every show starts with a fart joke I don't think it's a funny laughing
0:08
M Le I think you have a real problem probably see see medical attention for I
0:14
knew I shouldn't have had that salsa last night God speak you know I went to a
0:20
takaria last night and I blew it uh oh I did even mean okay I did it wrong I I I
0:27
I walked like I like i' never been in a Takara before it was very embarrassing real Gringo over there yeah yeah I I
0:34
tried to order at the wrong end they're like you got to go down there I'm like of course I you like you like like
0:40
Crouch down and start speaking to the guy's butt cheeks not exactly my faces not
0:48
exactly it was just and then yeah yeah just just went on and on I went down I
0:53
said well can I get a Super Taco he's like no he just said straight up no
1:00
I'm like what about just like a taco with like sour cream and you know guacamole
1:07
okay little little lettuce in there no no lettuce no lettuce oh times are tough
1:13
like okay buddy this ain't going well God it's always a little confusing
1:20
when you try to order something for a restaurant and they just say no and then there's no actual explanation you know
1:25
and also no it was just a flat no I was you
1:30
usually it's like but we can you know there was none of that it was just like what are you doing in my
1:37
restaurant man he thought I got just got off the plan I've been ordering tacos for 30 years oh don't tell me no how to
1:44
order a taco I did I did blow it though it was bad I'm out of
1:49
practice well that is fascinating Louis I think we might have to save that for an episode of uh cast off topic which
1:56
now that I'm back from vacation I should probably release one a considering I think it's been a month maybe long why rush it you're right I should probably
2:03
give it another couple months hey Fon Fork it over oh man you Fork it over I I I think
2:10
you you got me on that I need to be the one that Forks it over yes everyone else has been forking and I forking I need a
2:17
pitchfork with as many episodes as we have in the backlog here uh we got Dipsy Doo here we got two more than one I mean
2:26
look it's multiple we got level remix we got Jeff crumpley I wonder how many
2:32
people are going to show up for this episode oh man they're pouring in now there we go get on into the chat my
2:38
friends get comfortable put on your Fez and your silk C Club robes well if you
2:43
have one some of you don't have one that's fine but for those of you that have a locker in the C Club you'll find
2:48
your Fez and your silk robe with your embroidered name or initials on the front by our house Taylor jeppi and we
2:55
got this thing rolling um if I have all my notes Here I think
3:01
we can just Dive Right into I feel like I've Miss I'm missing something like horribly important I bet I know what it
3:07
is oh wait a second it's starting the recording isn't it it's pressing the go live button
3:14
that's not what I was thinking you want the Tweet action that's what I want there you go
3:21
L enjoy that tweet action look at that I think now we're ready to roll
3:30
go ahe and close this gez the feature on Twitter I mean
3:35
X any deep lake stories Dipsy dooo I don't even know what that means deep
3:40
lake stories oh talking to oh right I mean I
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mean shoot well I don't because deep lake deep fake I didn't even step one
3:52
toe into that Lake which I thought was hilarious so we went to this around it
3:57
we drove around it multiple times we looked at it we were like wow what a beautiful Lake and uh and then we stayed
4:04
in the pool the entire time that lake is is barely made for swimming it is ice cold I mean your nips will be in a
4:12
fragile state After exiting that water I mean like they might be able to be cracked if you if you bump them too
4:18
aggressively so and that's in the summertime in the midst of Summer but in the fall dude that there wasn't a single
4:24
body in that water it is just way too cold so we stayed in the pool but it uh
4:30
undeniably beautiful out there I love Eastern Washington maybe we could do a uh an off topic about that but before
4:37
that we got to do my Club 33 experien Disneyland for those of you that don't know the most exclusive place in all of
4:44
Disneyland almost impossible to get into and we ended up going there on our trip and it was definitely quite an
4:51
experience quite an experience but that's not what we're here to talk about we got all sorts of Apple stor so if you
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guys don't mind I'm going to queue up Mrs d get this thing rolling on Mrs
5:03
D oh Mrs D seem like you're in a good mood oh my dear I had quite an experience last night oh great here we
5:09
go in the boo with [Laughter] El m d I doubt it was that impressive to
5:16
be honest with you but and look at poor L he doesn't want to he's turning green
5:22
uh he's breaking out he's breaking out in lesions look at his forehead uh thanks for calling attention to it
5:30
leou you know what you can barely see it on camera Le Lewis's cat tried to tried to take him out last night his cat's
5:37
crazy why you sleeping I mean dude what was your cat doing near your head first of all while you're sleeping and for it
5:44
sharpening his claws apparently for your cat for that feline to attack your head
5:51
in the middle of the night is one of the strangest things I've ever heard I mean this cat Biz hyperactive man I've never
5:58
seen a cat this this crazy all right well look I'm sorry I shouldn't have drawn us back into this conversation yeah yeah uh I'm gonna go ahead Mrs D
6:06
and we'll get this thing rolling in three two hello and welcome to Coast the best
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30 plus conversation you're can hear all week long I'm your host air last join me today he's programmed the
6:19
CAC World Headquarters turrets to match the movements of his head mounted Vision Pro it's going to be handy making
6:25
tracking and aiming at escaping Riders so much faster and quicker I hear he can activate the triggers with just looking
6:32
his eyes in Rapid movements he's manag c l Wells
6:37
here it's a new accessibility feature it's very thoughtful of you also
6:43
with us when he's not live on this show he's also wearing his Vision Pro in fact
6:48
he rarely takes it off his neighbors haven't seen the top half half of his head since the Vision Pro released he's
6:54
a writer C Griffin Jones Is Here a phone I have to ask a question
6:59
you I know what it is have you returned your iPhone and gotten a one with a
7:06
reasonable amount of storage space yet okay no that wasn't what I I thought you were going to say uh no I decided to
7:12
keep it the color grew on me and to be honest once I wiped it for the third
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time because I was having so many problems getting it set up I uh I eliminated my problem I think which was
7:26
I know you think I have many problems probably Lewis my problem was that but when I transferred my new phone back up
7:33
to or my old phone back up to my new phone I didn't have any space left because it transferred all of the photos
7:39
and videos that it had downloaded or had been created on that phone to this new phone and so it was immediately out of
7:45
space so what you got to do is or what I had to do is set my phone up as new which was kind of a pain but I tend to
7:51
like to do that anyway because I don't feel like the phone works as well when you move the backup over although it
7:57
does take some configuring and you have to reinstall all your apps and stuff which is a pain um but when you do that
8:03
none of your photos and videos transfer over they're all just stored in iCloud and your phone will only download some
8:10
of the optimized versions that you've tried that or that you want to access and so it takes up way less space so
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like on my last phone or on my um on this phone when I did the backup I think I had like 80
8:22
gigs or 90 gigs of photos and videos stored on it which obviously is not ideal and since restoring it let me see
8:29
where are we at now I go to there's a lot of little uh UI tweaks that they
8:34
made in iOS 18 which I really like a lot um so now photos is only taking up uh
8:42
almost nine gigs so that's a that's a market difference how are you feeling
8:47
about the smaller screen versus the pro Max so I'm of mixed feelings about it I
8:56
love the smaller size I'm so much happier to be carrying a smaller phone
9:02
it's easier to interact with the phone it's easier to carry the phone in your hand it's easier to man maneuver the phone it makes it harder to drop the
9:09
phone so I love all that I definitely don't like the user experience as much
9:14
with the Max siiz phone having the bigger screen just typing on it it's a lot easier to type on the max with with
9:21
two hands um although it's easier to type on the regular profone with one hand so I don't know I I feel like
9:28
there's things I love and things that I don't love by the way check out my new case how do you guys like it very
9:35
predictable dude looks good doesn't it look it shows that black color oh dude so I'm I'm using the Rhino Shield crash
9:41
guard again which uh we'll see how this one lasts my
9:47
last one started coming off easily like the design was changed
9:53
and people were having problems with it staying on their phone me included um
9:59
this one I think will stay on better just because the sides are smaller or shorter because it's not a Max phone so
10:05
I think for that reason it's just a little bit more stable but dude I mean look at it this just blacked out phone
10:11
so for those of you who are not watching live um it's a black bumper case that
10:16
covers the fronts or the sides of the phone while leaving the fronts and the sides exposed I guess how does it work
10:22
with the camera control uh so I was going to say I guess all cases leave the front
10:27
exposed so they went with most your better ones do so they just did a cutout for it and I will have to say not the
10:34
most elegant solution um but although it does it does still protect the edges like some of the
10:41
cases where the cutout just leave like a giant like corner of the phone exposed it looks like it it it covers all the
10:46
edges on it yeah and and to be honest like it still works pretty well uh I
10:52
could still hit the button rather easily I'm waiting for this to load so if I hit the button it immediately loads I can
10:58
like now getting the um the camera button to kind of activate
11:05
that is a little bit harder but not by much because you put your fingertip in there and they have they have kind of
11:11
hollowed it out in such a way that your fingertip can still slide in and out of it pretty well so dude I'm pretty happy
11:16
with this for 25 bucks too I I honestly they should be paying me I I should just send them a bill it's still one of my
11:22
favorite cases on the market because what other phone is going to allow you to engage with the natural beauty of
11:28
your phone and still be as protective as this case is I mean you can see like the one thing that people don't tend to like
11:34
about it is that's lip that goes all the way around the back side of it I don't love that either but even though it's
11:39
kind of ugly um it actually makes holding the phone a lot easier yeah it's like a handle it's kind of like a handle
11:46
I remember having that it's like you could hold onto that thing and hang off of a cliff it's that big of a if you got
11:52
if you got the right hands finger strength you could literally hang off a cliff with this thing like
11:57
uh maybe even like a sharp Jagged you snowy Cliff maybe but in any case so I
12:04
wasn't going to get a case I thought about going cases I I just I can't do it I just I feel too nervous all the time
12:10
so um the Rhino Shield crash guard they have them on Amazon now they they shipped them earlier this year and I
12:16
think like this blacked out look with the phone being black and the case or the bumper looking being black and being
12:22
able to still see the back your phone I I just I think as far as cases go this is like one of the best that exists for
12:28
allowing you to enjoy like the actual Beauty and aesthetic of your phone I wasn't planning on starting with that before we dive in we're already you
12:36
know a foot underwater which is enough to Brick the iPhone 15 Pro Max actually several inches of water seems to be
12:42
enough to to Breck that phone uh before we go any further I do want to say a
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I think Hugo last I think he might work for the mafia loose this guy this guy is
15:35
made of money long shoran if he donates anymore I'm going to give him your personal address you need to set up that
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bed behind you and he can just come on vacation to stay at your house I think sentence anyone to that punishment
15:48
that's a good that's a good point I would say that he could stay on Leander Kenny's boat but I'm not sure how much longer that will be floating so we'll
15:55
have to figure something out real nice for Hugo last but he comes in with the $49.99 Super Chat he says I'm late I
16:01
guess I am last he's even got the humor you need to make it on this show we're g to get hugle last on that's a promise it's
16:08
going to happen sometime in the next three to six years we will definitely get him on I need to get on top of that
16:14
Hugo my apologies hit me up on X let's get that let's get that moving we need to get that established uh but thank you
16:21
for that outstanding massive Super Chat that elcy is going to enjoy he'll
16:27
probably spend it on some icit narcotics that the DEA has banned
16:34
but I'm sure in San Francisco is probably fine uh let's see should we go ahead and Dive Right In guys uh what are
16:41
we talking about first oh stopping us only my endless uh non-stop banter
16:47
about nonsense Griffin let's talk about Max iPads the rumored October events oh
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man it's it's got to be right around the corner yeah it is already October after all rumors say an Apple event should
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bring new Macbook Pro and Mac Mini models with the M4 chip and a new iPad mini and budget iPad also on the agenda
17:09
it's high time for MacBook Pro Models with M4 the M4 includes two more efficiency cores than its predecessor
17:15
and is made with a second generation 3 nanometer technology that's even more power efficient which they debuted on
17:21
the iPad earlier this year and also the iPhone an M4 Mac Mini is reportedly
17:26
coming this would be the first significant revamp of the uh desktop computer since
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2010 in the middle of the Obama Administration the first one you
17:37
interesting it'll get much smaller expect two versions one with the basic M4 and one with a more powerful M4 Pro
17:44
the pro model will feature extra ports on the front like the Mac Studio and both models will cut the Legacy usba
17:51
ports the last new iPad Mini arrived three long years ago the new version is
17:56
expected to be primarily a processor upgrade as the one introduced in 2021 already was a significant redesign
18:02
ditching the home button to make room for the uh 8.3in screen after two years the 11th
18:10
generation iPad is supposedly on the way according to rumors its only feature will be a fast processor as the the 10th
18:16
gen model was also a redesign and both of these iPads will probably be jumped up to the uh new apple pencil
18:23
accessories the apple pencil with USBC and the apple pencil Pro those seem to be the the two models that they're
18:28
shifting everything towards so you've said you're going to you're going to
18:36
consider the M4 MacBook Pro air fund is that still oh it's it's all but a certainty at this point yeah I I I don't
18:41
know if I'll be buying it right when it comes out there's some discount discussions that I I have had going on
18:48
and I'm trying to figure out like when I might be able to get a decent discount on it I mean look I I'm grateful for any
18:54
discount because those machines are so expensive now and I really like to get the two terab mod
18:59
because I feel like anything below that for the long term is just too inconvenient to use I mean you could use
19:06
like external ssds and stuff but dude that's just such a hassle to carry those around so without a discount I think the
19:12
machine that I'm going for well I forgot about the uh the the new um increase
19:19
Tim's revenue on MacBook Pro schemes where they they used to have just one top tier chip and now they' split it
19:26
into two with the with the top top end being five $500 more or something so I think that the the mapa Pro that I want
19:33
to buy is like $4,000 without the discount I mean it's really expensive it's just outrageously expensive
19:40
so we'll see what this new one is I also think a really smart play would be to
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get the uh the top tier M3 uh MacBook Pro like the current one
19:54
that I think is $4,000 with the 16 core CPU and the 40 core GPU like that thing is an absolute monster and probably way
20:01
more powerful than anything I would probably even do with it um I'm also thinking about maybe ditching the
20:06
MacBook Pro and getting a Mac Studio and then a MacBook Air I don't think I'll do
20:12
that but I so rarely use I this is my justification you guys
20:18
are going to love this this is me talking myself into spending money I I I I I'm not really doing any productivity
20:25
stuff nowadays Griffin edits the show I I keep telling myself I'm gon to get
20:30
back into YouTube because I really would like to do that I've been meaning to do it for like two years and I just don't have the time to do it and if I do I'm
20:37
going to need a machine that can edit 4K heavy content and so I kind of want to
20:43
be future ready I have all these video ideas that I want to do my freaking poor YouTube channel I mean it's been sitting there completely unmanned for like two
20:49
years now I I occasionally get comments from people like where the hell did this guy go like I made one video about the
20:56
updated homepods and I'm like I'm back and then I just straight up disappeared and never came back again I mean did so
21:02
bad you're thinking my use of a computer is less so instead of buying one computer I'm going to buy two computers
21:08
what sense does that make so my logic is if I get deal with the hassle of having two
21:15
Macs in like it because they don't have the same files as each other that's that's a mess just get one computer
21:20
that's probably what I will do will get the smaller MacBook Pro but with the nicer chip what do you mean the smaller
21:26
one you mean the 14inch or you mean yeah oh well the 14inch performance is always
21:32
just so much inferior to the 16inch because of the cooling issues but I mean it it probably would be perfect for me
21:38
it's it's it's probably the perfect compromise I'm sorry it's just boring everyone I'm boring everyone to death I I'll move on but I feel like the 14inch
21:44
is probably the perfect compromise between size and performance I think the problem the problem with the 14inch that
21:50
that keeps me from buying it is sustained performance if you're doing like a long export or something it
21:56
doesn't do as well as a 16inch because the cooling capacity is just not there because it's smaller but realistically
22:02
practically then just get the M4 because because then you can tell yourself oh well you know I'm getting the smaller
22:08
laptop that's a little worse but I'll get the M4 version instead of the M3 version so it'll make it back up that
22:13
that might be what I do and it is cheaper it is a little bit cheaper so I maybe I will go with the 14inch every
22:18
time I I I slog around the 16 inch that thing is so big and so heavy it it's
22:25
more than I probably need it is nice to have the extra screen real estate though so sorry this is a very long winded
22:30
answer to your question which should have just gotten a brief one yes I'm planning on buying the M4 MacBook Pro
22:37
I'm also thinking about a lot of the end of year purchases I might want to make like there are things I think I probably
22:43
would want to buy I was thinking about buying the new Apple watch I'm not going to do that now so I'm trying to figure
22:48
out like is there anything else that I might want to buy maybe that camera that I purchased almost a year ago the X100
22:56
uh 6 that I still do not have that has not arrived yet dude this is a scandal I
23:01
I I'm like Furious I so I I bought it from b& I'm gonna I'm gonna straight up
23:07
call them out I bought it from B&H and this camera is super
23:14
hot it there's a lot of demand for it so it's not just their fault it's also fujifilm's fault because Fujifilm can't
23:20
create enough of these and yet they they still keep releasing new cameras and I'm like dude you need to stop releasing
23:26
anything you should not be doing anything but shipping all the orders that you can for this one camera I have
23:31
been waiting for I think eight months now 7even months and my suspicion has been that
23:37
B&H is not shipping these according to their policy which is that they ship
23:43
them in the order in which they were received like that's what they say on their on their website we will ship
23:49
these in the order that we received them and so I'm I'm looking at the reviews for this camera and there are people who
23:55
explicitly stating the dates that they ordered their cameras and they're after mine so I'm like how the heck did this
24:02
person get their camera and there's several of these people now in the comments who have said that they've
24:08
ordered at a date that was after mine how do these people have their cameras and I do not so clearly B&H is not
24:14
following their own policies which I is absolutely infuriating to me but when
24:20
you contact them they will give you no details they they say it's like a trade secret to to re reveal where you are in
24:25
the queue so if you call them and you're like hey where where am I in this in this Amorphis cue that you have which is
24:33
more just like a crowd at this point like is there even a line at this point or are you just like picking people out
24:38
of a crowd to ship their cameras they tell you that they can't say like I know that you could say I definitely have an
24:44
order number and you could probably do a search on your system to tell me where I am but they won't tell me and so I'm
24:49
like what do I do I I can't just cancel my pre-order because that's going to boot me out of the system entirely I don't want to buy it from somewhere else
24:56
so I'm like stuck well because I'm supposedly on the verge of of getting my camera could could you go to some other
25:02
website and get one today no they're sold out everywhere they're just completely they're completely sold out everywhere Fujifilm has so dropped the
25:09
ball on this camera it's an embarrassment to them as a company like this is the worst product launch I
25:15
probably have ever seen they just they can't make these cameras and and yet they keep launching new
25:21
ones and that are less popular and it's like dude what what are you doing so I'm still the last email I got from B&H is
25:28
they anticipate they'll be able to my camera before the end of December
25:34
what the I I ordered this camera on February 19th 2024 what's the product
25:40
number uh I got a black one level remix um what do you mean what's the product
25:45
number what what's it called I it's called the X100 VI X100 VI yeah well
25:51
they call the X100 6 and I I mean dude it's just unbelievable I
25:58
and I really like being H as a company but it's like what are they doing like how is it possible that I still have not received my camera when others who are
26:04
clearly behind me in the queue have gotten theirs and have left reviews for their camera now it makes no
26:11
sense oh this is a bundle yeah I 2700 bucks you can get one from Amazon Monday
26:16
October 7 delivery yeah for $2,700 the camera sells for $15.99 oh this is a
26:23
bundle yeah it comes with the it com card wallet and a cleaning bundle yeah
26:29
so oh yeah that's worth 1,200 right there that that's another part of the problem is a lot of people are scalping their cameras which you know whatever
26:35
but those shouldn't those scalpers be in the same queue as me like should they shouldn't they be getting their camera
26:41
like in the order which B&H received them so I I don't know what's going on with B&H if anyone from B&H is listening
26:46
to this look me up in your system contact me tell me what the heck is going on because this is clearly
26:51
completely bungled I I I don't know how you screwed this up um I've never seen anything like this before in my life and
26:57
I've pre-ordered a lot of stuff stuff sorry we should probably move on Although our concurrence are going up camera
27:03
talk oh my God that's that's totally mind-blowing it's complet it's completely baffling I'm like am I am I
27:09
ever going to get this camera like you don't even know if I'll get it this year the new version's going to come out
27:14
before you get that one yeah well it that might be true although they only update this once every four years uh I
27:20
mean I even thought about just like bagging the whole thing and just just moving over my life and and spending that money in other places I don't
27:26
believe it or not I don't have Limitless you know reeven that I can spend I do have a finite amount of money I can
27:31
spend and so I've been waiting to get this but at this point like I can't even really review the camera it's so old
27:37
that there are a hundred reviews on YouTube that I would have to somehow you know rank above so I I don't
27:46
know but I still want to have it because I really do like Fujifilm cameras I have one now that I really like a lot um so
27:52
I'm probably going to just stick it out but back to the October event like yeah if there's going to be one of these
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they'll probably announce it next week dude that's what I was thinking it's got to be soon I mean and then maybe maybe
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have it on the 21st or maybe the 28th like it it's already October yeah like
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it the first week of October is already almost half over so and they got to give people a couple weeks well maybe not
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because it's going to be a pre-recorded event so I guess they only have to give people cultcast prediction game Champion
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is going to be very shortlived good that's how we prefer it I'm finally ready to retake the Throne
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of Co cast predictor Champion I still can't believe how close that was last okay uh do we sufficiently fog this
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one are you guys planning on buying a new Mac or anything that's that's
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um within this story I'll probably buy the new Mac Mini to review it but I I
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plan on I'll probably return it and just keep my M2 Pro because it's more than enough for me yeah I mean the chips are
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so power ful now that an M2 is probably going to be good enough
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for any 4K editing that you could possibly even be doing the M3 way Overkill M4 is ridiculous I should be
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embarrassed when I'm even considering buying it because it's probably going to do like 8K you know
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16 um 16 levels of like uh timeline editing it's like multiple 8K videos and
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then like all like the different animations and and uh and um titles and
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stuff that you can put into a video I definitely don't scoring a four Symphony Orchestra and logic 500 tracks yeah you
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probably will be able to do 500 tracks like no joke and uh I don't even edit the podcast anymore so it's like do I
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really need this no but you all know it's not about what you need it's about having the best am I right L having the
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absolute best that might it's enough for me to drop in my one jazz song that I use in all my cul videos for my one
29:53
track That's Just One 1080p 30 video every week all right uh here's something
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that people probably won't care about but we should probably tell them about it anyway leis go geez go gez because
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it's it's not the best that you can get it's not the best by definition it's not the worst though no it's fine fine we're
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talking about the iPhone se4 with Apple intelligence wo baby on
30:17
course for early 2025 you might have read about this on cult theacc we that was a headline of
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our story you won't believe this it was based on a report from a Ace reporter
30:29
named markk Gman from Bloomberg his story said Apple Inc I
30:34
love that Apple Inc nobody says Apple ink what's wrong with this guy what's going on with this guy no knows comma
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fresh off the release of the iPhone 16 is preparing to announce a new low-end phone early next year government
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predicts the fourth gen iPhone SE will support apple intelligence sweet of AI features coming soon to iPhones Macs and
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iPads if they can handle it apparently this will uh that would require at least
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the apple a17 Pro processor and 8 GB of RAM uh you know we've been thinking this
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thing is going to get redesigned sources told German that the iPhone se4 will resemble the iPhone
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14 if true the 2025 version will Mark the end of the home button no more home
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button on the iPhone SE G took forever yeah but it would still have the screen Notch remember that I I completely
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forgotten about the notch me too me too I completely forgotten it's been replaced by the the dynamic Island for
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years on the pro model phones uh and by the way I still love to diech Island I think that's one of the finest things
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they've done in quite some same here totally agree uh no word on the price of the iPhone SE other than it's not
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expected to come in a lot higher than the current $429 which you know it is a budget
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handset so got to keep it affordable for the masses dude and that if that includes
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OLED for $429 that's quite a tiny little package you got there if I do say so myself
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maybe this is a playing my prediction card early but I bet it would be 449 just bump it a little bit but still keep
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it them all because they they've never had a face ID device under
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$500 is that true yeah only the iPad only the iPad Pro has had face ID and
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you know on the iPad line and only the iPhones have had it and the you know iPhone 10 onwards from like $1,000 it's
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never come to that cheap of a device before I don't think I mean you know TC loves to do his
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little price bumps anything to squeeze out that little extra profit that's definitely happened let's just take a
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look real fast speaking of TC's profit oh man Apple's down
32:49
great I could do a whole stock update right now I'm not going to do it we're already we're already way too far behind
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oh man I'm just looking at these stocks made look from I made some stock changes
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recently and of course as soon as I did everything went the exact reverse of what I thought was going to happen yeah in effect all right uh anything else on
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that before we move on to iPad Air I know at least one person interested in buying the iPhone se4 yeah is it you
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no you can talk to steria is it your mom no I think moms and dads kind of like
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the the SE phones I just don't think that anyone listening to this program would be interested like we talk about it because I think it's
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interesting but would they actually be interested in buying one probably not because we have a Discerning audience
33:36
you never know we might have like teens listening who don't have a lot of money or you know true fresh high school graduates you know people people working
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low low budget jobs I was once a poor little apple Fanboy who could only afford a four-year-old MacBook Pro off
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of eBay yeah that I that that I that I threw out the optical drive and put in a
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I spent like $120 on an SSD that was a swapping 128
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GB dude I did that same upgrade to one of my previous MacBook Pros although I swapped out the hard drive for an SSD
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and that was one of the best upgrades I ever made in my entire Tech Career
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unforunate I then installed I then installed the beta of os 10 on it which
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disabled support for the exact kind of SSD that I put in and so it just didn't work for a few months that's called a
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self-owned griffin cell phone not a cell phone a self
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phone uh all right let's talk about iPad Airs I mean man another iPad air update
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incoming this actually might be something that I go for uh in lie of the
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iPad Pro I've been thinking about buying a new iPad although I have to say my current iPad is still doing pretty well
34:52
for as old as it is I think it's a 2018 maybe 2019 and that that thing probably
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does it probably does everything I need it to do I mean considering what I what I use it for but it would be nice to
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have something newer with better wi-fi and it looks like we may be getting a spec bump of the iPad air coming in this
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is of course also coming from German who says early next year we can expect an
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iPad air update the revamp will bring internal improvements um that's usually code for
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a faster processor the most current version runs an M2 ship so maybe M4 is on the way but if that's true that would
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make the 2025 iPad Air s fast as the 2024 iPad Pro you don't get all the
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bells and whistles but I don't know I'm trying to convince myself I don't need to spend $1,000 on an iPad although I
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would I would love to have the thinner OLED version of the iPad Pro I mean that's like the one big feature for me
35:50
and like I use the thing so much for media that it makes me want to convince myself that I should probably do it in
35:55
fact I may just uh have done that here on the show so I don't really care about the era but maybe you do um let's see is
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there anything else in here that we can talk about interesting tidbit I found at at the very end yeah quote Apple is
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Apple also is preparing an updated version of its magic keyboard accessory for the 11in and 13-inch versions of the
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iPad Air these will bring some of the features of the iPad Pro keyboard down market so they're making although they
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just made a new magic keyboard for the iPad Pro M4 the thinner one they're also
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going to come out with a new magic keyboard for this mid-range iPad Air as
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well so it'll be their third version of the of the magic keyboard it probably won't be made out of metal it'll
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probably be like a little cheaper and they'll cut cuss that cut cost that way but that's interesting I think those keyboards are so beautiful and they work
36:48
so well my only problem is the price it's really hard to stomach an accessory that I really need to use and I feel
36:55
like the price is so high that they've basically made it's something that only people who really need it would buy and
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I would love to see them actually make it cheaper and maybe make it out of some less premium materials because I I mean
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if it were like $100 I actually might consider buying one and using it when I travel but it's hard to spend 250 when
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I'm only going to be using it twice a year in fact I'm thinking about selling my um my airpods Max for the same reason
37:23
I'm like I've been talking about this forever I'm like I so rarely use them although it is actually useful to have
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them now just because I have the the new airpods Pro or the airpods 4 and being
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able to kind of like AB test the active noise cancellation we'll talk about this
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probably here in a little bit the active noise cancellation on the airpods 4 is
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really kind of an interesting feature because like I said before I I I never
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would have imagined that would they would they would have brought active noise cancellation cancellation to these airpods because they don't seal your ear
37:59
and and that's actually something I think that we have to talk about and the way the active voice cancellation Works
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how well it works when it works um that kind of stuff and this isn't a full review I've only been using them for a
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week but I I have used them long enough to kind of form some opinions and and there are things that I really like
38:17
about the new airpods for and then there are some things that actually made me think I wanted to return them um I don't think I'm going to return them but
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they're not they're definitely not where I thought they were going to be some capacities but okay before we do that
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actually Griffin real quick the co cloth orders have been pouring in and we're fully restocked baby and if you've been
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thinking about buying some we need to actually update the website and byy we I mean me these pictures are old this
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phone I think it's like an iPhone 13 maybe even an iPhone 12 um we just uh
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replaced our C cloth our carry cloth with a new version that is so much
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better than our old version our old better our old versions were terrific but the new version is even better they
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are made from a much better material and the more you use them the better they work they develop like this I'm trying
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to figure out a term for this like a marketing term uh they develop a fur
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like a like a like a like a fiber fur that work kind of similarly to our uh Co
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cloth Duo Where the Fur as you use it kind of like develops and then will reach down around the cracks and the
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crevices of your devices like the little slits in your digital crown on your Apple watch like all the stuff that
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normal cleaning clo leave behind and actually grab that stuff out and yet they're still portable so we are
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replacing our entire line of carry cloth with this new cloth uh if you ordered in the last week or two you already got
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them um I'm already shipping these out to people uh but I do need to update the the pictures and stuff on our websites
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uh and if you order you can get a free carry cloth with orders $20 plus if you
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use code uh cultcast a checkout go to C cloth. C cloth. of course you'll get all
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this in addition to our C cloth Duo which I I think is the best cleaning cloth that exists I really do I do not
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think there is one that one that is better it is shockingly good um and and
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does a great job on glasses TVs cars uh Apple watches it just reaches all those
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long fibers just reach down and grab onto the dirt in every cracking crevice
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and I always joke about this but you know on my iPhone you can see this rim
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with this new case that goes all the way around the phone and a normal cleaning
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cloth absolutely cannot reach down into that crass and grab stuff out of it and
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and the cat cloth does the fibers reach down into like the largest and finest cracks of your life and pull everything
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out and and it will keep your ICE Sparkling clean in a way that no other cloth can I I I honestly truly believe
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that Co cloth. c.co can you wash Co cloth that's a great question from Andy
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Brooks yes you want to use something that doesn't have in fact we should probably start including cleaning
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instructions we used to do this and we stopped but you can use anything that doesn't have a softening agent so like
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the best thing to do is like to hand wash them with dish soap just put a little dish soap in a bowl and then just kind of like mix them around as long as
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the dish soap doesn't have softeners in it what you don't want is any detergent that has softeners cuz that will actually reduce the
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efficacy of the fibers cuz all that softening agent is is usually like conditioners or even wax and it grabs
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onto the fibers and now the fibers can't clean anymore because they have like this residue that coats them so a nons
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softening agent um soap usually dish soap works the best uh you could also
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buy like microfiber cleaning solution I don't think you need to take it that far and uh and then just kind of like rub
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them all together rinse them out a few times and and that will restore their functionality uh oh no G threw theirs in
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the wash well G that may not have ruined them you also
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don't want to wash them with regular materials that can leave behind lint and stuff on them you pretty much only want
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to wash CT cloth with cult cloth or with other microfibers but I think doing it
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once isn't the end of the world you just don't want to do it all the time
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you like a special little miniature uh washing machine just for C cloth funny you should mention that Lou we're
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developing one it's only going to be $299.99 and uh you know you can put your
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coat cloth in there with some dis soap turn the handle I think you should have it run on
42:45
propane yeah oh definitely we'll have that feature built in that that raise
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the price $2,000 but I think people will be willing to pay that and then once it's done you can uh you can you can
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clean all the soot off of your things from that propane engine using your freshly cleaned cold clo that's right
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and they'll be immediately be so soil that you can't use them for anything else but they will be sparkling clean Co c.co C cloth. can you clean potatoes
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with them actually yeah you can it would probably be not be the last time that they ever cleaned well but the cult
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cloth okay now you guys just getting ridiculous all right shall we move on uh
43:23
where were we next gen Vision Pro perhaps all right all right let's do that next gen Vision Pro with M5 chip
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will support apple intelligence the first generation Vision Pro uses Apple's M2 chipset and an R1 co-processor for
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real-time sensor input processing while not the fastest anymore it is powerful enough to handle Vision OS and its heavy
43:43
arvr apps mingch quo detailed some planned improvements from Apple for the
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next gen Vision Pro the biggest upgrades will come internally with apple switching to a faster M5 chip and apple
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intelligence integration the EXT ra computing power should enable the M5 powered Vision Pro to handle the extra
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Ai and ml tasks smoothly Apple has yet to confirm if the M2 powered Vision Pro will gain Apple
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intelligence support even if it does the next gen Vision Pro thanks to the more powerful M5 chip should provide a better
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experience and enable new use cases like in most products that Apple intelligence
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is on like your iPhone your iPad your Mac the neural engine usually kind of
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sits idly in the background most of the time for most tasks like you know it lights up when you're using the camera
44:30
and when you're using Apple intelligence features but most of the time it's not doing anything and my understanding is that the neural engine inside the Vision
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Pro is like basically always active it's always hot because it has to you know do the thing where it you know traces your
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hand and udes it from the from the apps and screens in front of you like it's always doing something in there so well
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we'll see if it supports Apple intelligence or not I my guess is it probably will but probably not until
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like Vision OS 3 next year if I had to Hazard to guess uh anyways quo also claims that
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apple is unlikely to change the price of the second generation Vision Pro so the headset should carry the same $34.99
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starting price as the current model if you're looking for weight reductions and longer battery life quo says they will
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happen eventually this suggests that the second gen Vision Pro might not pack any improvements over the first gen model in
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this area it'll be just a spec bump while not mentioned in today's report apple is reportedly also working on a
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cheaper Vision Pro headset but no date on that so it'll probably be
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2026 I think there was an earlier story we had that Apple was in active
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development on like a a true like redesign of the of the Vision Pro the
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high-end model that they tabled to work on the uh cheaper version of that and a
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lot of people took that to assume oh well the current Vision Pro that we have will be the only one we have for like the next three years or so and it sounds
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to me like they're they're still able to do spec bumps on this existing design and
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if that's the case I might buy it for a review but and just return it within the two weeks but I I'm probably going to
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keep with my first generation model until they have like a redesign of of of
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of the headset that's lighter or notably better in some other way than just a spec bump yeah I totally agree I mean if
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you had if you didn't have one I think it would make sense to upgrade if you were one Contin to buy a Vision Pro but
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for like in your situation definitely not but I do kind of I do kind of Wonder like if there would be any visual
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improvements Fidelity improvements like were they Limited in any way by the M2 and like by jumping to the M5 like
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that's a huge jump and having I I would say maybe even almost double the
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performance of an M2 maybe close to it 75% better or something in in single thread
46:51
performance or maybe even more than that in multi-thread performance could they make the
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the video look better I don't know don't put like better camera Hardware in there an M5 would be able to do much more
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computational cleaning up on the on the live video which could make a big difference my Vision Pro never feels
47:12
slow like I I don't feel like oh it sucks that I only have an M2 in here I never think that but like the pass
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through video is an area that I look at and think okay this this needs some work it it kind of feels like looking through
47:25
the viewfinder of like a VCR like camcorder yeah or like a home camera
47:31
from the 9s it feel to view you know it's it's more than like 10 degrees you have like a full full vision in front of
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you but it's it's it's grainy especially if you have a poorly lit house like I do I mean that was definitely one of my
47:43
biggest complaints about it is the pass through video does not look good and it's such a it's such a huge ju position
47:49
between that and like the visual Clarity of a high resolution movie that looks so
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beautiful and and Polished and bright and then you look at like your kitchen
48:01
sink in your in your kitchen or something and it's like oh it looks terrible like it's dark and grainy and
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you can see like the noise pattern fluttering through it all over the place it looks horrific and if they can clean some of
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that stuff up I mean I'm not going to buy one but
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maybe they'll also support uh improved improved his ice lenses so that Lewis can actually try one with his horrible
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little bad eyes [Laughter] you say bad eyes or bat eyes I thought I
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think he well bad bad eyes I think both are actually relevant
48:37
here all right um what's next
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Lewis you want to tell us about the new smart display coming down the pipes
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before I move to my airpods update the product nobody wants or needs how how dare you how dare you Apple smart
48:56
display with apple Intelligence coming in 2025 Apple might launch a new smart
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display running a new operating system called homeos early next year device
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could feature FaceTime integration and act as a smart home controller you won't believe who this
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report comes from it comes from Mark Gman he says the lowend smart display is
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designed to run apps like calendar notes and home and will include an interface optimized for controlling home
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appliances and quickly seeing information When developing prototypes Apple imagined the device magnetically
49:30
attaching to walls or sitting at top a desk huh all right so don't know what
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makes different from an iPad anyway uh kman says the lower-end device will support apple and will support apple
49:43
intelligence Apple's Ai and Engineering teams reportedly are collaborating closely on the
49:51
project that must be what they're all doing instead of fixing iOS 18 explain to me you know convince me that when I
49:57
say hey unlock my door it'll actually happen consistently that would be a fantastic
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thing uh let's see uh this uh low-end smart low-end smart display would act as
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a companion to a long rumored more expensive tabletop iPad on a robotic arm
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which is still one of my favorite rumors uh both new products report will run on that home OS which is going to be based
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on tvos the operating system that uh runs Apple TV set toop boxes
50:31
Gman thinks the company eventually will merge the operating systems and run them on all its home
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devices kind of that's all it's like does anybody really care which operating
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system runs on but uh you know I I don't quite understand are they going to make
50:48
it better what are they going to do what how's it going to how's it going to be different from an iPad with the home app I don't know maybe they'll figure out
50:54
something uh how many people really want I I guess if you have like you know have
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it mounted on your doorway or something right like some of these smart home modation interfaces you know those can
51:06
be fairly elaborate and cool and so you walk in and all your uh you know light
51:12
switches are like on digital faders right or you know you you you can unlock
51:17
any door by pressing a button or speaking I mean maybe it' be fantastic I
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don't know and the good thing is it probably wouldn't go out a date like some of other things seem really
51:28
like like they might not last very long and they might not be around 5 years
51:34
from now and they might not be Backward Compatible you would think that if Apple did something like this it would last for a good long time I'm kind of
51:41
perplexed by this I I don't know is this supposed to be something with a with a screen that is fixed or is this like a
51:47
mount for your iPad because it seems like it would make more sense as a place to stal your iPad and kind of convert it
51:53
into like this this device that runs your home from a feature perspective if if the
51:59
screen is fixed I just don't really see a lot of demand for something like this especially for controlling your
52:05
home maybe this is a future focused product like apple is going to be planning for people to have a lot
52:13
more smart devices in their home which of course probably is true but people
52:18
can control those devices from their iPads from their from their phones and the idea ofle TV from their Apple TV
52:25
like the idea of having like a speaker connected to a screen in one fixed place that you have to go to to control your
52:31
home I think doesn't make a ton of sense now that being said I still kind of want
52:37
one but you know I genuinely think that Google has the right idea here like they nobody's buying their pixel tablet but
52:43
they have this great accessory I I I looked it up as as you were talking there and I searched Google pixel tablet
52:50
stand apparently that's actually what it's called It's called The Google pixel tablet stand but it's basically like a smart speaker with like a big you know
52:57
kind of like mag safe style magnet on the top that you can just like plop your pixel tablet on okay yeah like imagine
53:03
an apple version of that it's a homod you just you know magnet your iPad onto that and then suddenly it just goes into
53:09
standby mode and it does basically everything you would want this to do yeah see now that that actually makes
53:15
more sense to me and it would reduce the cost of this product like I I think I saw the price was did did German say it
53:22
was going to be like $1,000 or something that would be the robot arm version oh okay okay um CU When I saw that I was
53:28
like that that is truly Bonkers like no one was going to spend $1,000 for this thing uh but I don't think anyone would spend like $600 for this thing I mean if
53:35
it's a homepod with an iPad attached I would imagine it would be like $5.99 or maybe more um although I guess it would
53:41
be limited in its utility so maybe they wouldn't charge a lot more for it because it's not like a real iPad it's just a screen to interact with like your
53:48
home accessories or something I don't know I'm curious to see what they do here the fact that it's attached to to a
53:53
hom pot I think is really interesting um um like do people genuinely want this to be a new device that they have to buy
54:00
like just make it an accessory that and people can use the iPad that they already have yes stick stick your screen
54:05
to it put it in Stan BL mode they already have the software written for that they don't have to like rewrite TV
54:11
OS to make that happen yeah I mean there's Al like the Google
54:16
Nest Hub right I mean that that sounds more like what this would be something like that which we have one of those in
54:21
our kitchen yeah almost never use it but but you know you could imagine like
54:28
there's a device that you put in a place that you don't normally you know have access to your device or whatever your kitchen counter that you could control
54:35
things or or like I said if you mount it like in your garage or by your front door or something but you're absolutely
54:43
right I mean you already have probably with you 95% of the day your phone which
54:48
you could do all these things you know purportedly just by invoking the magic of the smart assistant we all love that
54:54
does everything right every time you ask of course of course well did he say when
55:01
this is expected to launch I saw that in here somewhere sometime next year I
55:06
think he said all right I I actually am genuinely curious to see what this actually does I'm sure we have part of
55:12
the story they're probably testing out different models I mean I but I I really do hope that it's something that gives
55:17
your iPad um a place to be used as like an always on although for for all I
55:25
don't think that's it at all it's a separate thing it's a completely separate thing I'm saying I hope it's
55:30
not that early next year so it might actually be at the same event that we see that you know iPad
55:38
Air so Leander and you know remember Leander uh in the newsletter this week
55:44
when he he wrote about this thing he was saying like you know pointing out like his his mom has I know I think it's a
55:51
Google Nest or whatever Google Nest Hub I can't remember the name of all these products but uh
55:56
you know he said she never uses the screen ever once like at all she uses it
56:02
all day long to listen to you know radio or podcast or whatever but never never use the thing but but like he was saying
56:08
if it had FaceTime on it she would probably use it a lot and that does kind
56:14
of make sense right I mean if you could just turn you know somebody calls you
56:19
FaceTime calls you and you're in your kitchen cooking and you can turn this thing on and use it as opposed to digging out your phone or going and
56:25
finding your iPad I mean it starts to make a little bit of sense that that could be a good good feature but yeah I
56:32
I I think that smart home switches you know turning on your lights and something you know it's a little I don't
56:38
know how much call there is for that stuff I mean even even I who have a whole lot of things I mean I've got my phone with me all the time that's right
56:45
and your phone is available whenever you move rooms and that's that's having this
56:51
thing fixed in one room I I think is really what what limits it's useful for
56:57
people uh all right I think that's all our Apple stories for this week should I dive into my airpods 4 one we review
57:05
here we go oh great where do I even begin with these no I'm just joking okay
57:11
let me just rattle off some stuff okay this is just open up this is just you're going to get the stream of Consciousness
57:17
I'm going to connect with your psyche and just upload this program for you should I start with my overall
57:24
Impressions I I think they're great like a really nice Improvement and you get the new case
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just having it have USBC for charging just that alone is such a huge Improvement having the speaker on the
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bottom when you want to find it dude once you go there you never go back that's the way to go and I've already
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had the thing trip at me I I already had to find them several times the chirp helped me locate them I mean I lose my
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airpods so often that having the speaker in the case makes huge difference I
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showed this last week the case is a lot smaller and far more portable and easier
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to carry around I mean the airpods 3 case is actually quite large and quite bulbous so there's that and then there's
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the find my capabilities like the case terrific right huge upgrade mag safe
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charge it with your uh Apple watch charger dude so good so so so
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good the airpods themselves I was a little worried they are more angular and
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they have some sharper edges than the airpods 3 and I wish I had my airpods 3
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and four here I don't uh but I that's okay I'll I'll describe this in such
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Rich detail that it would actually be um uh less useful to to show you a visual
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because my words will paint such a vibrant picture for you so I put them in live on the show last week and I think I
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said something like uhoh because I didn't find them to be as comfortable as
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my airpods 3 I will maintain that as that actually is true for my ear shapes I find that the
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roundness of the airpods 3 are a little bit more comfortable but you know you know honestly once I kind of got used to
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the airpods 4 I didn't really notice them as much I did accidentally fall asleep with them in my ears on my trip
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to Chalan and I woke up because my ears were sore that never happened with my airpods 3 I fallen asleep with my
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airpods 3 in my ears and I didn't even know they were in until I happened to have touched my face and there was an
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airpod in my ear so they are slightly less comfortable I don't know why Apple made that decision to like make the
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airpods 4 more angular and more flat in certain areas I find that to be an odd decision although I I suspect it has
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something to do with the active noise cancellation and I think that's probably where things get
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more interesting the one thing I will say before we move on to active noise cancellation is sound quality wise I
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can't discern any difference between three and four I think they sound I now I haven't gone through a huge list of
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music so maybe I'll I'll discover if that they are they do sound better in some in some instances that's
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interesting describ them as being basier uh I think that probably is true
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they are slightly basier I think that the reason that they're slightly basier is because they need those lower
1:00:13
frequencies for the active noise cancellation would be my guess um the active noise cancellation
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is where I think things kind of get interesting so
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I saved the active noise cancellation experience for my long drive from my home in Seattle to Lake Chand Washington
1:00:33
which is a three and a half hour drive now the reason I was excited about ANC is because my kids always listen to
1:00:40
stuff on their iPads there's like a ton of noise going on there's podcast
1:00:45
there's music and I was like wouldn't it be great if I could turn on ANC in this really portable airpods product and melt
1:00:52
away all this noise and just get to listen to what I want to listen to so I
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put them in and I turn it on and it was a moment of
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Tranquility where the background noise kind of Fades away but then I notic that
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there were like lots of weird artifacts that were introduced in the active noise cancellation it's like it's like the
1:01:19
airpods really struggled to actually cancel out noise and because they couldn't do it and all
1:01:26
respects sometimes you get like these weird audio uh mutations of sound and and the
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example that I'll give is like when we were driving down the road it had a very
1:01:39
difficult time dialing out like the road noise like the the inconsistent
1:01:45
boom like all the different sounds that can happen it just wasn't able to dial
1:01:50
those out and some of them I think it actually made worse it like the like the the frequencies that did get in were
1:01:57
like really kind of agitating and are you sure that you weren't in like an adaptive audio mode or something like
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that I tried the adaptive audio mode and I tried the full-on noise cancellation mode and I didn't feel like there was a
1:02:07
whole lot of difference so I felt like where the airpods really struggled is
1:02:13
with noises that are very low in tone or pitch and inconsistent like it didn't
1:02:19
really know exactly what to do with those noises like it's good at dialing out um frequencies that are higher and
1:02:26
also frequencies that are consistent like that it does a really good job with like if you're in an office environment
1:02:32
and just like like the general office noise that is like this just this like
1:02:37
um consistent level of noise that stuff you put the airpods on and all of a
1:02:42
sudden you hear the volumes just drop way down and all of that background noise just melts away and you can focus
1:02:49
on what's coming in through your airpods there's also the there's also the fact
1:02:54
that the airpods don't seal your ears very well so like you'll be enjoying the active noise cancellation then you'll
1:03:01
chew which changes the shape of your ear and all of a sudden you get like this blast of you know noise that's just
1:03:07
happening outside of the airpods and so like whenever you're moving your head or moving your jaw or whatever all of a
1:03:14
sudden the seal breaks and now you get the noise pollution which is kind of jarring so it's kind of like a weird
1:03:22
like how do I describe it when it works when well it works really well and I
1:03:28
know that seems like circular logic when it doesn't work well it's very agitating
1:03:34
and weird and kind of um hard to deal with from from a noise pollution
1:03:39
perspective and it was so bad on that drive I was like wow this is terrible I'm going to return these it was that
1:03:45
bad like I I could barely handle the artifacts that's the word I was searching for the noise artifacts it
1:03:52
introduces as it's trying to dial out these tones and pitches you're hearing it doesn't know what to do with them and
1:03:58
then it it turns like into this weird like digital artifact noise that you
1:04:03
have to live with which is even worse than the road noise so there's that
1:04:10
and it also seems to have a hard time with music like I was in my gym and they have music playing and I could still
1:04:16
hear it it also has some other weird features like and you could shr some of these off so these aren't the biggest
1:04:22
deal but it it will there's a feat where it will duck the volume when it believes
1:04:27
that you're talking so if you start talking it basically activates transparency mode and will lower lower
1:04:34
the volume of what you're listening to and and let in external noise so that you can hear conversation well the
1:04:40
problem is is like if you clear your throat if you cough like it doesn't realize that you're not talking and it
1:04:46
will all of a sudden turn on transparency mode which lasts like 5 seconds until it thinks that you're done
1:04:52
and then it will take the volume of whatever you're listening to back up also found that sometimes it just got
1:04:57
confused and even when I spoke or I didn't speak or make any noise it would
1:05:02
just all of a sudden take the volume of the content I was listening to and just drop it way down for no reason at all
1:05:08
and so it got to be so bad that I actually turned that feature off because it was constantly ducking my audio even
1:05:14
though there was really no reason to do that so that you can turn off that's not a big deal I mean it must have thought
1:05:20
that someone was talking to you I mean maybe but I don't I don't
1:05:26
think it activates in that scenario I thought it was only if youut talk oh really okay well that is a feature then
1:05:32
not a bug but it doesn't work very well because it thinks that people are talking to you even though they're
1:05:37
not right so like you're just sitting there in the car or walking and then all of a sudden you realize that the volume
1:05:43
has has just plummeted 20 or 20 or actually like more like 70% and you could barely hear the content that
1:05:49
you're listening to so I ended up turning it off uh all that to say
1:05:56
I still think it's worth keeping I'm not going to return it when the active noise cancellation works well it does work
1:06:01
really well and it makes your environment way more quiet I get that
1:06:07
active noise cancellation is is kind of a tricky thing in a product like this because normally you want something to
1:06:12
seal your ears like on the airpods max which provide a much better ANC
1:06:19
experience because they're covering your entire ear and they're able to maintain
1:06:25
that seal I think it's kind of weird that they put ANC in the regular
1:06:30
airpods and like I've said multiple times I'm s I'm surprised that they did it I never thought they actually would
1:06:36
but I'm happy that they did and I still think that the airpods for with the ANC
1:06:42
is worth it and and I would Reby them again because there are instances where they do work so well that you're
1:06:48
actually happy that you have them but they don't they're not as capable from
1:06:53
ANC perspective as I was hoping they would like I thought that they would work well in every situation and like I
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would say 60% of the time they work pretty well 20% of the time they really just
1:07:05
don't work so well and the other 20% of the time it's so horrible that you actually have to turn it off it's like
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dude this is not this is not good um sorry I'm trying to read the chat at
1:07:18
the same time so there's my one week review I'll keep using them I'll let you all know if anything changes as time
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progresses but all in all all the features especially the new case features 100% worth it
1:07:30
absolutely love using the airpods in most situations it's just some of those ANC
1:07:36
situations not so much and the and the transparency mode the last thing I'll say is they actually make a lot of the
1:07:45
noise pollution happening outside your ears louder in many instances like they actually amplify that noise um and so I
1:07:53
don't actually find Transparency mode to be that enjoyable because it actually makes external noise more loud than they
1:07:59
would be if you just turned off transparency mode and paused your audio to hear what people are saying or took
1:08:05
one out of your ear or something but yeah any questions any of that you can adjust those settings a little bit I
1:08:12
don't know if you know that uh which settings like the adaptive audio there's
1:08:17
a slider in there if you go to the settings you can adapted okay I actually I'm not sure I knew that I should try to
1:08:24
play around with that um and after I said that about conversation awareness now I'm not 100%
1:08:30
sure that does it activate when somebody else is talking to you I think that it does I don't think you have to be the first person to talk but interesting I I
1:08:38
don't know I mean all those features are kind of an amorphous blob of what is
1:08:43
actually happening right I mean and and it I was talking with I don't know Leander or somebody it's like you know
1:08:51
this the way that they're doing this they're making homepods homepods air pods uh like something that you can wear
1:08:57
at all they're trying to make it something you can wear at all times you never ever have to take them out and
1:09:03
it's you know effective it's effective in some instances not so effective one
1:09:09
of the I don't know if you guys saw this but I believe it was in the the last event where they had like band members
1:09:15
wearing airpods while they're rehearsing you know because it's like now it's in addition to being able to use them as
1:09:22
like uh hearing AE they saying oh well you can use them as like you know protective ear earplugs that you would
1:09:27
wear when you're doing a gig you know so they're definitely making them trying to make
1:09:35
them something that you have on in your ears at all times and it it's kind of a
1:09:40
work in progress It's kind of amazing how well it works in most situations I bet that those things you know that you have you know the a andc I mean of
1:09:47
course it can't be as good as something that actually physically blocks the sound right but I bet it works pretty
1:09:53
well on an airplane where just blocks out this
1:09:59
constant I think you might be right like that that kind of consistent humming noise it probably does pretty well and
1:10:05
that was probably one of the main use cases they were going for and testing for right a a car on a road churning
1:10:12
being passed by other cars hitting potholes that is extremely inconsistent
1:10:17
like you have to react to that uh very quickly and dial that stuff out in real time and they just kind of seem to
1:10:23
struggle with that type of stuff but I bet they probably work great on an airplane that's one thing I'm looking forward to trying it it sounds like uh
1:10:32
it sounds like they're trying a little too hard to block every single noise and you know like they're doing it all with
1:10:39
software or with you know I I guess yeah I don't know
1:10:44
software Hardware whatever but they're doing it all just with you know making
1:10:49
sound that that blocks out sound I I don't know what the actual scientific terminology is I mean I honestly think
1:10:54
that's how it works anti- sound you know where it it tries to create like the opposite frequency as to what you're
1:11:01
hearing which also kind of creates like that pressure effect in your ear sometimes which could be a little bit
1:11:06
uncomfortable it wasn't too bad uh but I haven't tried these I'm very curious about them but D yeah I love airpods Pro
1:11:13
I I love way airpods Pro feel in my ears much more than the what you're saying
1:11:18
about like your ears hurting that that always used to happen with the uh regular airpods you know something about that plastic on my skin oh always made
1:11:25
my ears kind of after you know hour three feel kind of I don't know like it
1:11:31
almost burned or something it just it's uncomfortable feeling maybe they're just like slightly bigger than your ear
1:11:37
canals find comfortable and so after a while they just get irritated that I'm one of the
1:11:42
lucky ones because it's like TC custom fit airpods for me they fit my ears
1:11:48
perfectly snuck in the middle of the night did a a mold of your ear there look and then he was like well
1:11:55
let's change it a little bit there's no yeah that's TC style especially after our recent commentary I
1:12:02
I actually have had custom ear monitors fitted and there is
1:12:09
nothing covert about that process it it feels like they're sucking your brain out of your ear when they pull that
1:12:14
thing so they squirt this goo I actually had it done at CES like they squirt that
1:12:19
goo into your ear right and then they wait for it to dry it's like this custom foam and that is a weird feeling when
1:12:25
you got that in your ear and then they have to like twist and pull the thing out and it it only reminds me of that
1:12:31
scene from Total Recall where Arnold Schwarz is pulling that thing out of his nose he's like that's like what it feels like for
1:12:38
your ear and you feel like you're being unplugged from The Matrix like your body like starts twitching and and then goes
1:12:44
limp at the same time and then finally they pull the thing out and it's like they just pulled an alien out of your ear so I don't think they're going to do
1:12:50
that while you're sleeping but if they give us the option to make custom fit airpods I'd go through that process
1:12:56
again you know what that sounds I I Absolut I absolutely imagine they'll do
1:13:02
that I never thought of it before but that sounds something completely Apple doesn't it it's probably too Niche it's
1:13:09
probably too Niche but I don't know about that you like so airpods now you
1:13:14
know the most personal airpods ever air airpod well don't they already they let you scan your your ear
1:13:20
withar you'll you you'll scan your phone or your ear with your phone the way you already can for personalized audio or
1:13:27
whatever it's called and you'll upload that to Apple and they will custom you know like well I mean think
1:13:34
about it they kind of do that with the uh Vision Pro right there's yeah they have like the 36 different light seals
1:13:39
that are slightly different sizes and shapes yeah maybe there's like a little camera attachment that you can use to
1:13:45
slot into your ear hole to skin it with a liar you know I know we need to wrap up here because we're going like 50
1:13:50
minutes long I um I recently had a 3D scan of my feet done so I could get like
1:13:57
custom fit Orthotics dude this is crazy I did it totally on a whim too because I've been meaning to actually get some inserts because I have like super flat
1:14:03
feet and in fact they're almost as flat as you get like like you you can barely yeah you can barely stick a razor blade
1:14:10
under these feet man like you're not getting that thing and I was at Costco and they had people that were it was
1:14:17
like uh I forget the name of the company I should probably look it up um but they do like a custom 3D scan in your feet it's crazy man like I had so they call
1:14:24
them more metics like those things that you put in your shoes and like I had those as a kid cuz I was like a little bit inverted in my in my feet and they
1:14:32
used to have like it was like a like a like an art project they would put like plaster app Paris I think on your feet
1:14:38
and build you like these little clay shoes and then like pull them off your feet and they would dry and they would ship that to like a lab and then the lab
1:14:44
would make you custom orthotics and like this thing you stand there you you pull your your pants up like a couple inches
1:14:51
right and then they have like this thing that you stand on like a platform I think measures like your pressure points
1:14:56
and then the this thing like scans your feet uh 360° it takes like 2 minutes and
1:15:02
then they upload this thing to their website and you can order custom orthotics which are 100% customized to
1:15:10
your feet so I have a pair on the way and if people would find that interesting maybe this would be an off
1:15:16
topic this is definitely off they do this at Costco they did it at Costco yeah like this little machine and they
1:15:21
did the whole seen and um and we'll see how comfortable they are like they're on
1:15:27
the way they should be here actually any day um but I think they're going to help
1:15:33
like because I do a lot of walking I probably have talked about that in previous shows and like you know sometimes your knees are not happy about
1:15:39
that or your feet get sore especially my feet so I'm kind of trying to do something that will help me walk for
1:15:46
longer periods of time without my feet getting sore because I can make it probably about three and a half four
1:15:52
miles and then my feet start getting sore I'd love to be able to do like six or eight miles or something but I am
1:15:58
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