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This week: WWDC 2024 kicks-off Monday at 10am - here are our predictions! Plus $NVDA overtakes $AAPL, iPhone 16 Pro could have some crazy new display tech, and last-minute iOS 18 rumors!
Chapters:
0:00 Preshow
4:58 Intro
10:09 Squarespace
12:55 iOS 18
22:01 Justin Long Qualcomm Ad
27:02 Apple Watch Patent Dispute
31:42 CultCloth
33:56 iPhone 16 Pro Displays
38:51 $NVDA vs. $AAPL
46:56 WWDC24 Predictions
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oh jeez leis come on that just really sets the tone
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doesn't it that's one way of describing it
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Le you got have to see a doctor about that I do need to go see a doctor my
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back if you got back problems you know what you need to take loose rum tumor
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that will help and also add tumeric that's the key Lois tumeric you know
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that that I was gonna say SP what is that it's it's a it's a freaking root yeah
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right and it's got the word tumor right in it wait until I hear about
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cumin uh all right I think we're live and we're live G I hope they didn't
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catch the beginning of this show sorry we're so late so many
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technical issues just one after another Lewis is having some gastrointestinal
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distress we got torquil Dew dewal de we got MacBook fox running on Windows we
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got Betty Reyes here we got Carlos we got level remix we got
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coron all right I think we have a quorum Darth inkling is
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here oh man we already got a massive donation the last effect in full effect
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that's a good omen that means we're going to probably make tens of thousands of dollars this episode in super chats but I'm gonna wait to talk about
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it when we do the official show start here hug go so I give you some credit on the show we are going to get you on the
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show that is going to happen oh yes that is going to happen we're going to make that happen as as with so many things
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that I've said we're going to make happen it will eventually happen it doesn't happen soon doesn't happen right away off topic just came out dude I was
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stunned two two I didn't even wow we just birthed two off topics wow and you
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know what I'd really love to do for off topic is um like amas which we need to
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start Gathering from the very exclusive cult club like I would love it that like
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other other shows do a question and answer segment and we never do that on this show that'll be a fun thing to do yeah we probably don't want to do it on
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the regular codcast but on codcast off topic it would be perfect and people could ask us questions and stuff or you
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could suggest topics it's like pulling teeth getting you people to participate with us maybe I I don't know what we need to do I don't know what we got to
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do but put away the pliers for starters if we could get some
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suggestions in the uh in the cook club that would be a great way for us to start including
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those all right should
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we go ahead starting the podcast should we do something
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okay oh that's a great question AMA what hair product is Griffin
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use that's G to be a exclusive episode it's it's it's bear Tallow isn't
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it bear to That's What harp just describing my entire process
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yeah we do need to go through that that was like a whole episode idea that we had I don't know if anyone is going to like actually want to listen to us talk
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about our hair techniques but you know what the show is ours so we can do whatever we want and if you don't like
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it then you could skip that one yeah skip that one there's probably GNA be some shows in there that maybe don't fit
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your fancy that's okay uh all right let me go ahead and queue up Mrs you know who
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oh Mrs D Mrs D oh my dear I heard you were
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talking about audience participation oh boy here we go yes I was getting some
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participation from El key in the budoir last night that was actually surprisingly not
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offensive leis it's all about your imagination just wait I'm sure there's going to be a part [Laughter]
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two Miss no one wants to hear about your escapades with El Kenny although I am happy to hear that he's still living cuz
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I didn't know that I heard that he was not among us anymore so I'm encouraged to hear that but if you don't mind we
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have a lot of stuff to talk about we're going to be doing our WWDC predictions this episode and so
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much more so much more so please put a cork in it and let's go ahead and get
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this music going in three two h
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and welcome to the co casty best 30 plus minute app conversation you're going to hear all week long I'm your host here
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from Elijah and I just realized that when I restarted my computer I didn't actually
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reopen my notes so let me do that oh here we go every Sunday he dumps a fancy breakfast bucket
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into the CAC Rider straw including eggs bacon pancakes and so many other scraps
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that he and Leander couldn't possibly finish what a guy he's the managing editor of C Louis walls is here it's
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some Freedom toast in there this week also with us he just upgraded this television to a 28 in
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CRT sure the thing weighs 125 lbs and took two neighbors to lift but the 480p
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picture quality has to be seen to be believed he's a rider for c m Griffin Jones is
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here oh man I wish I could afford a 28 in CRT oh 480p is unbelievably lifelike it's
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funny cuz there was a time in my life I think the very first TV I ever purchased
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was a 28 in CRT from Sears and when I got that thing in my room and it probably did weigh like 125 lbs I could
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not believe the picture quality 28 in 28 Ines I mean at that time I think a lot
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of televisions were like 20 in maybe I don't remember and that thing was glorious you know I wonder what happened
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those big wooden consoles oh my god well we used to have one of those in our house when I was growing up and it had
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like the the fancy doors on the front that you could like open up you know wow
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didn't that's a I hadn't thought of that in years my one and only television in my house is a 24 inch CRT from
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1993 it wasn't far off see how did I was it you were using like some kind of
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crazy dongle to watch stuff off your iPhone or something my Apple TV plugs into it I just have an HDMI to RF
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converter and how do it look dude like does it does it look okay oh yeah looks looks I mean it looks beautiful you know
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those those those like 4K 60fps like animated like shot screen savers have
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never looked uh blurrier well you got like that
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Instagram effect but on all your TV shows you know it's like the thing that that people like these days is like I
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mostly only watch like 60s Doctor Who anyway so works out boring old Doctor Who that's that's the medium they were
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Crea for yeah yeah so is your TV color or black and white oh it's color yeah
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and then if I want a nicer experience I can watch 1960s Doctor Who inside my Vision Pro that is pretty funny isn't it
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like he's got the Vision Pro but then he also has a TV from 1992 yeah I can't buy a new TV I bought
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a Vision Pro that is that is pretty hilarious dude I was like wow you're making me feel guilty for spending all that money
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on my TV but your my TV costs probably ex it certainly costs less than the
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Vision Pro which with tax and everything was what $4,000 yeah something like that I don't
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want to talk about it blood until the end of the decade I gotta know are you happy about it would
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you make the same decision you know what I genuinely am i' I I went through a period where I was only you know putting
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it on like once or twice a week but I've been making a point to where like about every day and I've you know it's like whenever I remember to put it on I have
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a great time you know like I I was doing dishes and I was like watching stuff and like the great thing is like you can
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still control it even when you have like soapy hands and all that because you don't need to touch anything yeah like every time I remember to put it on I
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really like it but like remembering to put it on or like charge it or just the act like the process of like taking off
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my glasses putting on like it's a bit of a hassle and I think that's the problem they need Apple needs more incentives to
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get people to keep wearing it every day and then they have more happy customers well maybe they'll be announcing some
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more incentives at next week's ww DC which is going to be a topic that we go
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through later in the show we'll do our full predictions like we always do and then we will next week figure out who
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won the predictions game which this is going to be an anxiety inducing one for me because I I I at last one I we we
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barely lost got something to don't you Lewis barely eak out a win there of
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course with expert guidance for me and Griffin going first obviously but you know that's that's a topic we don't need
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to resurface all just talk about the Vision Pro it reminds me why AR we we should have we
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should tell people about the Marvel thing that you you reviewed oh yeah there was a uh a really excellent Marvel
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game that came out for the Vision Pro called what if it's it's a very different it's really the only type of
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game I've seen like it on the Vision Pro so far like a lot of them are you know kind of basic like iPhone arcade style
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games that just happened to be in 3D but this is truly excellent I wrote a review on that you can find on cult ofac I'll
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put it in the show notes um it the the way that it seamlessly Blends VR and AR
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and like the hand detection is is really something special okay cool well speaking of
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control center tweaks and iOS 18 this going going to be a big redesign Lewis am I right I can see from the look on
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your face you're incredibly excited about this yeah uh the settings app and the
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control center big tweaks coming in uh iOS 18 big tweaks big of course the iPad and the Mac versions too uh Apple
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supposedly going to overhaul Settings app across all the platforms that unveils the updates at WWDC 24 which
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happens when Monday 10 a.m. Monday Monday Monday uh expect a you new user
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interface reorganized layout and an improved search that's what's happening
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supposedly with the settings app the control center which provides easy access of course to all your frequently used features on iPhones Macs and iPads
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also see changes Apple supposedly will upgrade it quote with a new music widget
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and improvements to how it operates Smart Home Appliances that's coming from Bloomberg's one and only reporter mark
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kman there are I I just just a small piece of color commentary here it
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it's hilarious to me that there are like I would say 15 accounts on Twitter that
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literally just have notifications turned on for German and when he tweets something they will rephrase it and then
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just retweet it to their audiences and like that's like their whole like that's like their whole strategy like they
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don't even give him credit they just no no they do they're like German said
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German just said and they'll they'll enumerate the list it's like dudy he just said it like we all heard him say
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it we all follow him and they're like Gman just said these things and like five seconds later after he tweets they
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tweet so they're sitting there they're literally just waiting for G to tweet so that they can rephrase it and then
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retweet it it's really funny to me do they get like a lot of views or like a lot of hits doing that dude some of them
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do I mean look at this here's one we got it on the S Apple track is one of them dude no
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hate to Apple track I I don't care it doesn't bother me but I do think it's funny man it's like an apple track is one I constantly see pop up it's like uh
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the iOS 18 Settings app is getting redesigned with a new UI and better search according to Mark Gman it's like
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we know he just tweeted it we just saw him tweet it well at least in that instance they're they've got a mockup
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that they I believe collaborate true true so this one does include a visual example but that doesn't always happen
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Lois like usually it's literally just a rephrasing it actually reminds me of uh
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uh uh of an episode that I haven't yet seen but I saw the Highlight for of toast of London when um uh this guy is
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in the studio with Clen Vango I I can't even talk about I haven't even seen the show never mind this joke's going nowh it's almost like you've it's almost like
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you never watched a show and yet you keep talking about the show that you've never watched because every time iar
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every time I use Tik Tok a highlight reel comes up and shows me all the funny lines from the show and every highlight
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reel that I see has more of the lines from the episodes that I haven't seen it's actually going to be ruined like
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when I go to actually watch Toast of London all the best parts are going to be spoiled for me because they're all in these like highlight videos that people
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are putting on Tik Tok so I'm like oh well perhaps you should stop watching Tik Tok well I need to get my hands on
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tosta London but I don't want to pay for Brit box the app that only shows Amazon
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Prime you have to buy the episodes man you can't go watch them it's not it's not streaming on you can't stream it
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anywhere that I found except for Brit box which is only British television it's like I'm not going to pay eight bucks a month for only British
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television now you can stream um what we do in the shadows
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that's his other Matt Matt Barry's other show sorry we're way off track here uh take long you can stream that on Hulu
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Okay that's all I have to say what else you got L for us Los well you want to look at those other mock-ups I mean I don't know yeah all right nice little
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mockups people people jumped on the news and made mockups that's what you're saying uh let's see uh the only thing I
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would say is like I think that it would be great if they change that Settings app on the iPhone because you open that thing and it's
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like how far down do you have to scroll before you get to things it just it's becomes so unwieldy how much stuff is
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packed in there uh one of the things they said though is like improve search I I actually think the search in that works pretty well you guys have a
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problem with that you ever had problems with the setting search the setting search do you mean when you pull down
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you search for something and it doesn't like you type in an obvious synonym for something and you it doesn't find it at all
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I uh search usually feel like I can find whatever I'm looking for no problem but what are you talking about settings
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search you know if you open the settings app if you pull up then there's a search bar oh that yeah well my only problem
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with search in general including settings is you'll type something and then it just literally gives you no results does that ever happen to you
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guys the big problem I have is with Spotlight search when it it turns something up and as I go to tap it it
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replaces it it you know like right as your finger moment it's like it's the finger you know it's
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I think the the phone has a proximity sensor it can tell he's about to touch the appy once let's give him a different
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one it's almost like they programmed it that way God it's like a Sucker Punch
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The Vision Pro Settings app is really interesting because it's it looks like this a Settings app on Vision Pro except
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everything is in a slightly different place and things have slightly different names it's kind of uncanny but one thing that it does really well is that like
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the the settings app on the iPhone if you scroll down far enough it literally just lists every app that you have on
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your phone whereas on the Vision Pro that's just a single category that says apps and then you tap on that and it's a
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lot cleaner so hopefully you know that's one change that they bring over I bet you that they try to square you know the
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like get the user interfaces more like I mean it seems like it's what it's headed for anyways making things look more like
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what the Vision Pro appears to look like you know what I've seen from it still don't have one still can't try one you
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Haven tried one yet dude I got the vision my eyes yeah you got the unpro
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vision that's the problem I've got amateur vision for
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sure okay what else we got in this story here Lewis anything that's about it in that story uh you know I mean we could
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talk about this iMessage this is incredibly tiny other these are like the big things that came along this week
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that are not I AI well maybe not AI I mean who knows maybe the search is
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powered by AI but uh iMessage supposedly is going to let you animate words and texts in iOS 18 won't that be great so
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now you can you can type in the word happy and it'll it'll go like this up
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and down or something actually kind of like those little message effects that sometimes you type and it accentuates
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the words a little bit I think that could be cool I mean and this would be the actual words though like animating
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the words I the actual word yeah I think that's a cool extension of what they do right now like if you type like congratulations like all balloons appear
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in the background but have it be a a little celebration of like the actual font itself yeah I was just saying like
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the whole message effects thing like every time I I'm reminded by that I'm like oh that's that's kind of cool yeah like the lasers or whatever but like I I
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don't know it's it's just like the another one of those things that Apple's devices do that I forget about you know
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because in my day-to-day text message text message text message blah next thing you know completely forgot I
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didn't even exists and of course you can also I know everyone knows this I'm just repeating the obvious but you can also
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press and hold the send button in the messages app to open up the uh bubble and Screen effects which I feel like
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people don't use nearly often enough that's what I'm just talking about oh that's the one you're talking about okay I was talking about the one okay I was
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talking about a slightly different thing but yeah those just incorporate into your daily communication like hey going to the grocery store do you need
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anything send it with lasers yeah I think everything looks better with lasers to be quite honest I care uh all
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right have we sufficiently fogged this one yes I think that we
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have go all right I'm surprised that we're only now integrating those effects
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into the show uh Lewis and and Griffin are utilizing the camera the built-in
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camera effects that people kept accidentally triggering uh because they didn't know
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that they were integrated and they would be talking about some deeply somber morose topic and then all of a sudden
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like these lasers would start appearing behind them you know I I saw that in so many different Skype calls with people
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in different newscast they'd be talking about like what's going on in Ukraine and then all of a sudden like the laser start appearing behind them or the
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confetti starts falling it's like really Ser uh let's see here all right so
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that's the iMessage stuff that you could animate words oh well shoot I was on the wrong story so at least let me scroll do
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we have examples of that no we don't it's just words anyway okay let me shift
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gears a little bit and talk about something that might actually make you a little sad because I saw this and I
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thought to myself oh my he's destroying his own legacy Lewis it really is sad to
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see you know it it kind of reminds me of
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um who who is that Gary Coleman that guy that really short guy who was in
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Different Strokes and it was a really popular show in the I don't know late '
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80s early 90s and then the show ends and Gary Coleman who was one of the stars of the
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show couldn't find work and ended up being like a security guard at some
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place you know doing like retail work which is so tragic because like everyone knows who he was and they would
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recognize him and now here he is doing this job that's like not exactly prestigious I don't think that Justin
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long is necessarily completely in that camp but it does does hurt me
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emotionally to see him doing these ads where he's playing like the antithesis of like the cool Mac guy cuz those ads
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were they're held in such high regard and they're some of the best ads that were ever made and obviously for us
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Apple Fans they were of such huge enjoyment and now he he did like those
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series of ads where he was literally playing like the PC guy and now he's
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back with what Su are saying are his lamest PC ads yet uh let's see here let me scroll down I
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know people got to make a living so you know you got to do you got to do but it
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does make me sad uh qualcom now tried to spoof a uh some of those
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legendary uh I'm a Mac I'm a PC ads um 14 years after you know they
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stopped airing and many people probably don't even remember them in the new ad uh which promotes promotes the company's
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new new Snapdragon Elite chips Justin Long works on his MacBook Pro to kitchen table notifications keep popping up all
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around his head he he's swatting them away with irritation oh man isn't just Mac OS so irritating now you know
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Windows is definitely better and then he types in the Google search where can I find a snap dragon powered
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PC oh you know there are some things that you can't do for money you just got
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to say no you don't want to make it seem like you're just totally for hire and
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you'll two points that uh yeah that that sort of ruin that ad first of all
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Snapdragon powered PC is not a term that anybody knows or would search for unprompted second of all windows is
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famously the operating system that sticks ads in the freaking start menu now so if like can't imagine being yeah
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yeah Windows 11 look it up Windows 11 is doing that it's putting ads in the start menu it's putting ads in the widget thing that's on the taskar like Mac OS
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famously you turn all the notifications off like you know try installing Google Chrome or like changing it trying
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setting that as your default browser on Windows it asks are you sure are you really sure you don't want to try out Microsoft Edge like
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God yeah man I don't know I just I saw somebody say this is unintentionally a
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really great ad for the Mac well that actually probably is true I I I don't know if he's doing any
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acting these days like is Justin Long in anything aside from these commercials I haven't seen him him in anything in in
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years I know you got to make a living everyone's got to eat he's probably got several mortgages he needs to pay you
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know nothing okay well cheap in
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2001 yikes oh wait a minute Goosebumps okay that might have been
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pretty popular 10 episodes of Goosebumps in 2023 yeah well so he's still doing some
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acting I mean he he was like the the face of
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but you know that's in China so I think you can get away with doing ads in other countries where your main audience isn't
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going to see it I think that's actually pretty common with a lot of celebrities in the US they do ads in other countries
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they can make a ton of money and it doesn't actually touch like their main fan base but this
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[Music] one he he he played shaving nurse in for
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3 I think uh I think I auditioned for that same role actually they gave it to him huh wow I thought I did such a good
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shaving nurse character for them but apparently he pulled it off better all right anyway we'll leave a show or uh a
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link in the show notes if you guys want to have a moment of cringe this weekend the poor guy I mean he should have just
26:43
left good enough alone you know I wonder how much he got for that probably a lot
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probably a lot would be my guess let's hope it's a lot how much is your dignity worth leis I guess that's the
26:54
question how much is your dignity worth how much do you pay me to do this show do you have Apple pay cash not
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enough all right let's see here let's send it over to Griffin to talk about um
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the fight for the blood oxygen feature someone I I I know was just asking me about that this week Griffin they're
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like hey does that feature still work in the new Apple watch Ultra and I was like I don't think so bro you might want to
27:20
get the version one for that reason yeah so um fight over blood
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oxygen feature cuts into Apple watch sales probably your uh friend isn't alone there Apple watch shipments
27:31
dropped almost 20% year-over-year in the first quarter of 2024 Market analysts blamed some of the decline on Apple
27:37
being temporary temporarily forced to Halt sales and of course removing the blood oxygen sensor in case you forgot
27:46
Apple is involved in a long-running patent dispute with masimo Corporation and a sibling company uh that I haven't
27:52
heard of before cusur Laboratories yeah I remember how that's pronounced the two Medical device makers have convinced
27:59
Court after court that the way the pulse oximeter inside the Apple watch works infringes on their technology Apple had
28:06
to stop selling Apple Watch series 9 and Ultra 2 in the United States late last year there were several subsequent
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starts and stops I think one of them was like conveniently just after the Christmas weekend which played well in Apple's
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favor but when sales resumed for good in January 18 Apple had been forced to disable blood oxygen monitoring software
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in the new units they still ship with the all the same Hardware in there but it's just uh turned off in software and
28:31
in the first quarter of this year Apple watch shipments declined 19.1% compared to the same period last
28:37
year according to analyst. IDC this is kind of interesting because we are just a few months away from the
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next hardware version of the Apple watch shipping in September which begs the
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question like are they going to is the Apple Watch series 10 and Ultra 3 are they going to like still have blood
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oxygen Hardware in them but just the software disabled surely apple is going to you know how are they going to
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advertise a watch that says oh yeah this one explicitly has less features in it you know well Tesla does it they just
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ship the hardware and they're like hey eventually we're g to turn this on they've been doing that for like 12 years at least Apple didn't make you pay
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extra for the uh blood oxygen software yeah they didn't charge $15,000 for the hardware dude I I just do we have any
29:23
Tesla owners in the chat here I I really would be curious to hear what you all think about that like especially if you paid for like the autonomous driving
29:30
functionality because I know that they were charging for it and they keep raising the price which creates like this pressure for you to purchase it
29:37
even though you don't know if or when it will ever be turned on and I'm just curious like is anyone unhappy
29:44
that the the first model 3es from like 2017 are getting at about the the age where you know most people would trade
29:51
it in for a new car by now so if you bought full self-driving with a model 3 in 2017 like you have to you have to the
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thing is you have to buy full self-driving again on your new car I don't think it transfers so you have to
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drop like even I think you're right money now wow and you don't get to keep it so there's probably a bunch of people
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who paid to activate the feature on their car and then that the feature just never actually became a thing and now
30:14
they're on their second or third Tesla wow remember those Looney Tunes cartoons where where the per the character the
30:21
head just turns into a big sucker vaguely vaguely oh such a great
30:29
image burned into my brain well now we're going to have to see if I could bring up a Looney Tunes
30:35
sucker Looney Tunes sucker head let's see if that brings up
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anything no well hold
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on now I got a picture of the sucker but not the not the not the transformation
30:53
so I think it loses its oh wait a second there we go is that what you're talking about
30:58
Lou what do you got there wait for it to populate the live feed there it is is that
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it yeah exactly exactly yeah man I if I bought a Tesla I
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don't know if I would actually pay to activate that feature to be honest with you I I would be quite irritated I'm not
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saying it's vaporware but it it definitely W within the scope of time considering that time is a real
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thing it actually could be like I think eventually they're going to get it working but it might be 10 years from now and meanwhile they've been selling
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right um Griffin do you want to talk more
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about the uh since we're talking about iPhones and displays it might be a good time to talk about iPhone 16's Pro
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display I mean iPhone 16 Pros display absolutely let's do it the iph
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16 Pros display could support seriously small bezels so for comparison uh my
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current iPhone 12 pro has a bezel around the edge of 3.47 millimeters and it's
34:22
crazy people see me using my phone and they're like wow why are you carrying that
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matted painting around with you and I'm like no this is just my phone it's got this gigantic thick bezel around the
34:34
edge 3.47 millimet the iPhone uh 14 pro
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2.15 millimet the iPhone 15 Pro 1.71 mm
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but the iPhone 16 Pro could sport the world's slimmest bezels on any smartphone at just
34:51
1.2 mm you know that's like that's like a third the thickness of my current 12
34:57
Pro yeah um I would have preferred if they they Ed the Slimmer bezel to make
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the phone smaller but instead uh Apple will instead use the uh the the space to make the screens 0.2 inch bigger while
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keeping the phone the same size which is a little sad but I I'll take what I can
35:16
get um apparently apparently their their design their display design has caused headaches for Apple suppliers as they
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are struggling to meet the high manufacturing standards
35:28
they're doing better than Fuji is I'll tell you that much right now you think you think Apple's doing
35:34
bad oh my goodness still guess who's still waiting still waiting for my Fujifilm x16 I'm guessing you I Cann not
35:44
believe it I completed my pre-order in the first 90 seconds it became available it's been three months I still have not
35:50
gotten it what Happ and you and what would happen if you go to the website right now just say sold out or what well
35:56
you know it's it depends on which website you go to I mean many websites yeah they just won't even sell it to you
36:02
but I'm not going to name and shame them but the website it's a site that I love they continued selling pre-orders up
36:08
until like two weeks ago and the the people are churning on them
36:13
man like when you go to read the reviews on this website now it's supposed to be reviews of the camera but all the
36:20
reviews that are coming in are people who are just who who have had it they're just pissed and they're like I ordered
36:26
two months ago I you know a month ago I ordered three months ago and they're all just onear reviews and people are just
36:32
starting to Mutiny against this company like why why are you still accepting orders we can't even get our original
36:38
orders and so finally they turned off ordering and now it's you know you can't
36:44
you you can't order it on their website and so they they were just they just kept taking orders kept taking orders like dude you can't even fulfill the
36:50
orders from the first two minutes of the release day and it's been three months you've been taking orders this whole
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time so I I mean they have bungled this release worse than virtually any release I've
37:03
ever seen I mean PlayStation 5 was bad I don't even think PlayStation 5 was this bad at least they were people that were
37:09
getting them at this point I'm like are are you even making this camera is this
37:15
camera even real does anyone even have this thing how can you possibly be this
37:21
far backed up I I'm completely baffled if you want to know who it is it's in the chat I'm not going to level
37:27
remix got it I'm not going to name and Sham them cuz I actually do like them but they have bungled this badly bad why
37:33
don't you try ordering from a different site and then like just see if that one comes first I could but I'm already in line
37:39
and I'm like I've been in line for three months now surely has to come every day
37:44
and I apologize for calling you shirle but more than that I have their special
37:49
credit card which pays my salale tax for me so if I were going to order from another place it would literally cost me 10% more than I already paid so
37:58
okay well we got into it Tom in the in the chat saying it took him three months to get a PS5 but dude that was during
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covid I mean the PS5 debacle happened because of all the supply chain issues
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that were occurring during Co I mean if you you could go to virtually any store now and get a PS5 because they're
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commonly available now like this has nothing to do with supply chain issues because of Co I am truly
38:22
baffled that they're having all these issues and and I'm sorry you guys don't want to hear about this this this is
38:27
neither here nor there I could I could do a whole I could do a whole Lord of the Rings extended edition episode on
38:33
Fujifilm bungling this release obviously obviously it's very irritating
38:39
to me I'm sure it'll get to me eventually it's a first world problem I fully admit that there are more pressing problems in the world but dude I mean
38:46
come on what are you doing anyway I've completely lost track
38:52
while we're talking about airon and mistakes why don't you tell us about Nvidia still ah
38:58
now he's going to be all wound up starting out wound up and now I I apologize the for the involuntary Eyes
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eye blinking right now just the one eye I really don't know you know that scene
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from minan Jones and um the uh the what
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is it called um the Last Crusade is that what it's
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called name of the movie yeah and he goes in to visit the knights and he drinks the the wrong water and he's like
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you have chosen poorly that's how I'm feeling now that's how I'm feeling I
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called it I mean did I not tell you guys was it like the the week before or maybe last I mean look you don't have to be a
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Wall Street Professional to see where things were headed but Nvidia they're about to become the
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world's most valuable company and meanwhile Apple's just going sideways they've been going sideways for like two
39:53
years and I don't know if this momentum can continue with Nvidia but every time I check back on their stock price it's
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like you know up 2% today up 5% this week now today it's actually down 1% but
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in the last week it's up almost 8% in the last month it's up almost 32% the
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last six months the last six months the stock is up
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166% I mean and in the last year at 213% I mean it it is just it's
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truly Bonkers and I keep thinking to myself like should I sell all my Apple stock and go in on Nvidia Nvidia is
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powering the future of AI everyone wants Nvidia in fact I saw a Bonkers clip on
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Tik Tok Lewis of the CEO who by the way is like such a nice guy and such a
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humble dude like every time you hear him talk I I'm like so happy for him that he's this successful and he I don't even know if
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there has been a company that has become this successful so fast in the history
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of any company on Earth I mean the whole thing happened I think he started the company when he he was in his 20s I I
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unfortunately I forget his name and now he's about to be the owner of like the most valuable company on Earth uh of
41:12
course AI is is going to be a huge part of that but he was talking about how at
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Nvidia they have so integrated with AI technology this point that they can't
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even build processors or software with it because a AI is able to go and create
41:30
all these test scenarios and test things virtually and there's just no way humans could do this and then he started
41:36
talking about multimodal Ai and he's like in the future AI is going to be not just
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powering your software and involved in your Hardware it is going to be it a part of like three-dimensional robots
41:53
who are busy building other robots that's literally what he said I'm parh phrasing but that's what he was saying
41:59
and AI is going to be three-dimensional in real space that we all inhabit just
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you know with us living our lives with us doing things for us solving our
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problems probably also realizing we are the problem and
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our it is so much like the end of Terminator 2 and the beginning of Terminator 3 I mean it's really bizarre
42:23
man like it it's almost like those movies were documentaries like there's a scene in Terminator 3 where they're
42:29
literally activating Skynet and I'm like we are probably months away from that
42:35
that momentous moment um now whether it becomes self-aware I don't know it's
42:40
like can is that even possible I don't know because people talk about artificial intelligence it's not intelligence it's just machine learning
42:47
so it's machines recognizing patterns essentially so I don't I don't think self-awareness is going to be a real thing it's not like they're going to be
42:53
able to be conscious now they could determine that you're a threat I I do think that is actually possible that is
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possible a machine algorithm could determine that you are the problem that needs to be eliminated and there's no
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conscious about it it's just part of the pattern um but anyway so Nvidia now I
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think Microsoft is the most valuable company in the world now with a let's see what's their what's their their uh
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uh in the article microft is at 3.15 trillion
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Nidia 3.01 2 trillion yeah and apple is just barely over
43:30
3.03 I believe they both dropped back down below three trillion who did
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Microsoft or Nvidia and apple yeah I think you're right yeah I was surprised that that Microsoft was so hard high up
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there but they also bought that big stake in open AI which dude is I imagine is gonna pay off huge for
43:48
them you know that Nvidia is doing well because now the US justice department and FTC are uh you know looking into
43:54
them for potential antitrust VI violation W of course well I'm sure of course yeah look how successful that
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company is let's take some of their money look yeah well that's exactly it right like how can we get a little carve
44:06
out of that I'm sure AI will solve that problem for them um it's exciting man
44:11
it's exciting to see I mean Nvidia used to be a card or a company that built gpus for video games they've been super
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successful in that market for years and now they're powering the future of AI it's incredibly exciting but also it
44:24
just makes me think like should I sell my Apple stock should I sell it like for in the last year let's see here the year
44:31
started at 177 and we are currently at 195 and and
44:36
and it's just been doing this for you know a whole year it goes up it goes down it goes up it goes down it cannot get past it cannot get past like the
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$197 mark it just can't it can't do it the stock is boun to change next week so
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I think you should make a decision yeah before or after W probably not for the better I mean it almost always drops
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after a major your news event ask ask chat gbt if you should buy hold or sell
45:02
with apple yeah go ahead yeah I think my Apple do whatever it tells you to do
45:08
actually it's not it's actually not a bad recommendation I mean to be honest could just flip a coin I suppose oh man
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into it Tom in this chat I sold Nvidia at mid2 200s I am sorry I'm sorry shout out to shahak
45:23
sarati for the six 69 90 shekels I don't
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know what that's worth in dollars but thank you he says love the CT cast gov Club rule thank you and also B from Hugo
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LK driving a Ferrari now or a Lamborghini you son of a he just bought him what what is that five four or five
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gallons of gas four or five gallons look we appreciate your donations here Hugo
45:56
we all know Leander keny's got plenty of gas he doesn't need anym believe
46:02
me I learned that the first two days I spent a hotel he has an even more expensive vehicle an old Land Rover yeah
46:10
dude that is true it's cheaper on the front end but once you take account into account maintenance and repairs it's
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definitely way way more expensive uh I don't know there's
46:21
nothing else to say about this except for I'm horribly depressed and that if I would have invested the same money I put
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into Apple into Nvidia I would literally have like $1.2 million at this point it
46:33
would be Bonkers and instead wow I mean look I'm not I'm not instead I have like
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160 170,000 in value so it's not like I've done bad but the Nvidia play sold
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it you have what 60% of that yeah right well after taxes I'll be
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I'll be breaking even uh should we go into our WWDC predictions here oh my God
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is it that time I should have prepared I should have studied for the test all right am I going to your website here
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Griffin Griffin djones Home D Griffin jones.com D Griffin Jones of course what am I thinking home of the
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WWDC predictions and all other predictions we got so we're going to do
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it a little differently this time um wow all you're already in there wow well
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yeah because okay well yeah I I'll explain so there were many complaints from my fellow co-hosts that uh
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specifically they want all of our ENT to come in at the same time so uh they are
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going to submit their answers I believe in the YouTube live chat yep after I I
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read the question but I can't have the YouTube live chat open on my real internet connection so I have already published mine on my website and it will
47:46
just be on the honor System for them not to look at my yeses or NOS in advance I'm not going to look it promise I already memorized them uh those are not
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the only changes um there is also a special Wild Card question at the end oh
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my a fill in the blank guess the name of Mac OS and that will be worth three
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points so you have time to ruminate on that um other rules are the same uh correct guesses are one point any
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disputes and judgment will be ruled on by Leander cany a job I have not told him about he still hasn't AG nor will he
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want yeah but and uh another change is that it is now easier for listeners to
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submit their votes made a Google form that you can find on on my website on the blog there's a link in the show
48:31
notes or you can just go to DG Griffin jones.com survey and you can fill out your
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questions and answers and if you if if any of the uh questions seem a little vague keep
48:42
listening and we'll surely explain some of these and you can listen to our votes
48:47
as well so our listeners have an advantage there I suppose are we all ready to dive in lay
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down the law lay down our predictions what we think is going to happen let's do it I'm ready I've got my do you have
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your chat window open here Louis you ready to type your answers in the chat all I got to do I got to go into the the the chat okay you gotta go in the live
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stream I thought you had it open got it all right and what what's what are we doing here exactly so we'll
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give our we'll type our answers in the chat and then 3 two one we'll hit answer and they'll go well only you and I have to do it Griffin has his already listed
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on I got it D Griffin Jes okay question one iOS gets free placement of home
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screen icons IP pad OS doesn't so wait a second are these numbered are these
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numbered uh Griffin uh they are not numbered but I can keep track that that's question one okay because
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otherwise we have to like type out the whole question so I'm gonna just type one hyphen what was the question iOS gets free placement of home
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screen icons iPad OS doesn't oh iPad OS doesn't so the sort of a pattern where
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iOS gets these cool features like the app library or you know widgets on the home screen a year before iPad does and
49:57
the Rumor here is that iOS is going to let you put icons wherever you want on the home screen you won't have to stick
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to the left to right top to bottom yep GD layout before are you ready Griffin or are you ready
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L sure one two three
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enter oh look at that and I forgot to put in the number one so what are your votes I I'm voting
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no I vo I'm actually gonna take the gamble that they're all G to come at the same time okay
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yep sorry what what were you were you yes Lou put no oh
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interesting question two new apis for colorful systemwide themes this is sort
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of building on the rumor that there's going to be like alternate colors for app icons on the home screen and uh you
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know maybe maybe they turn it into something sort of like a material U as it works on
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Android H and the API would be the thing that lets every all the developers developers
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access it tap into it yeah yeah I'm
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ready okay one two three
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press I voted yes okay we both did yes is all around
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okay go ahead next iPad OS gets standby popular
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feature last year is it coming to the iPad this
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year I don't hear anything anymore I'm ready when you are oh okay you ready yeah one two three
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press I voted yes I voted yes come on really too bad can't change it now Louis no way
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I think you well I'm not gonna say about all right sorry I'm not watching the are are
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those all yes votes uh I'm no l is a no oh okay L remix is also in here voting
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with [Laughter] us I love it okay next question new iPad
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OS power features exclusive to the M series iPads
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I'm sorry what new features new iPad OS power features exclusive to the M series
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iPads so people are saying uh iPad Pros have these super powerful M4 chips but
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you know you can't do anything special with them you know are they going to come up with any advanced features this
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year like a you know turbocharged version of stage manager you know background processing anything like that
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are they going to do anything special for the powerful iPads
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okay I'm ready one two three
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press Le is a yes I'm a yes I'm also a yes it's a this is kind of a risky bet
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but l a consensus building next question okay Vision Pro
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unlocks and integrates with iPhones unlocks and integrates with I
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that's an that's definitely an interesting prediction so the first part of that Vision Pro
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unlocks iPhones like right now if you're wearing a Vision Pro and you have an iPhone you have to type your passcode in every time because face ID doesn't work
53:38
it doesn't have any like special you know like what the Apple watch can do to automatically unlock it and you know
53:44
there's there's also like no real integration like there's no like call forwarding for example doesn't work between iPhone and Vision Pro um are
53:52
they going to do more features like that this time around yeah I'm ready when when you are Griffin I mean Lewis me too
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one two three press I voted yes no I also voted yes
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now look I don't know if they're going to do it but they they are eventually going to do that it's only a matter of time and if they're trying to lure
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people into Vision Pro I think they have to start making some of these quality of life
54:19
improvements it seems like the sort of thing they can get away with to launch like Invision os1 but you know come on
54:24
people have had these things for months now it's kind of annoying that I have to type my passcode in yeah absolutely next question this is my favorite tvos gets
54:32
more than 20 seconds of attention this burned me last year when they actually rolled out a tvos feature but I guess
54:38
the question is are they going to have a feature this year 20 seconds so you know if it's if the the
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word tvos appears on a slide that doesn't count but you know they're actually G talk about it yeah 20 seconds
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of stage time I'm ready yeah I'm ready too one two three press
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I voted no I voted no oh another change I got
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yes oh I put in the wrong damn number what a you can edit it can't
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you what thought you could edit the think can you can you edit your comments
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this this might go hor horribly arai you can edit a YouTube comment but I don't think you can edit a live stream
55:22
chat okay now yeah you I that's fine don't worry about it
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I'm keeping track of your answers in your yours is lined up with ours so we'll
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know uh this is question number seven and this is getting into the quote unquote AI segment notification and
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conversation summaries okay it will have them
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yes okay so we're on seven now right yeah
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mhm whoops I'm ready 1 2 3
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press I voted yes I also yes
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okay new this is this uh suggestion came from airon um
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new voice assistant is no longer called Siri aon's been speculating on this
56:20
broke up real bad for me but he's saying they're going to change series name to something else this is number eight
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I'm ready one two three press two I voted no I think they're going to
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stick with I also voted no I I I think they should do it and I think it's a great opportunity to do it I think that
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they won I think that they won't do it they're they're they're not gonna sees the day carp not DM I'm presuming you also
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voted now yeah yeah we knows across the board I'm more sure of that than almost
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anything on here this is another feature um a lot of
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other companies are doing it but I don't think it's been explicitly rumored object recognition and lookup from the
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camera put your camera at something and say what's that and then it tells you this is a uh you know plate of lasagna
57:13
they they already have this they they do it after the fact you have to take a picture and then you can
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like swipe up on it and it'll you're saying it be real time yeah like you know you can ask the AI help me like
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what is the thing and then it'll tell you okay we're on number
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nine ready yep one two three press I voted yes well now I voted yes
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as well I voted no but into it Tom is saying that uh iPhone does this already
57:46
with accessibility so we should Che yeah there's there's a there is an
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accessibility feature like that inside the magnifier app but I'm saying like they're going to like repitch this as like an AI feature like it'll be built
57:58
into the camera like Google translate when you hold up a the camera and look at a sign you're like what's this like
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it's a it's a banana dumbass
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oh oh thanks Siri sorry for this SAR more about this ban yep
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thanks all right object removal in
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photos object remove on photos I'm ready ready 1 two three
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press I voted no we both voted
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yes image and video upscaling popular use of AI a lot of
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apps for it this is 11 sure yeah it is I'm not I'm not
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asking I'm letting you know I'm ready okay one two three press I'm a
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no I voted no NOS across the board all look at Lewis capitalizing his n what an
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editor what what do you go low I I don't even bother in chat all rules in chat
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there are no rules it's like jazz once you know the rules you can ignore the rules leis okay now we're on 12 next code
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completion in xcode
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I'm ready I'm ready okay one two three press I switch it up just for you I vot
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yes all three of us yes all
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right 13 how many we have left uh in that case we have seven more
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left okay let's see some features are limited
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to the the iPhone 15 line to the iPhone 15 line yeah well the
1:00:04
15 is the current model of phone you mean but this okay as 15
1:00:11
includes is this a trick question though because this doesn't come out till
1:00:17
iPhone 16 well they're announcing the features now they're not going to announce a feature that isn't available on any of
1:00:23
their products I see what you're saying so you you're
1:00:29
you're saying they're going to talk about the software but because they're not talking about phones some of the features will only be available on their
1:00:35
current best phone yes yeah all right that's an interesting that's an
1:00:41
interesting question because like there's been a lot of speculation like you know a lot Apple wants to do everything on device you know only the
1:00:48
latest iPhones have the processing power to do it you know okay I've got my answer this is question 13
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and if they say for instance this would work on this is only going to work on iPhone 15
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Pro and or devices with you know whatever chip meaning that it would also
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work with 16 and 16 Pro yeah like you're not saying the iPhone 16 doesn't exist I
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don't know what that is there is no iPhone 16 I wonder if they'll make one we're G have to wait to see what
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German thinks all right I'm I'm ready okay 1 two three
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repress I actually voted no I also voted no there's a
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switch I got yes okay well let's hope that's the the mistake that I need to
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pull ahead next question as speculated on
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this show most features are available only with a
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subscription wait a second most features are available
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um because most is it how are you gonna you can't you can't say most because
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what oh no it's 49% I mean you could if you counted them up and Well yeah if you asked chat GPT
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to give you a summary H are you sure you don't want to change
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language to sum um I I I guess I could do that that
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does change the nature of my answer yeah yeah
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I think you either got to say some or I guess a majority is exactly
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technically the same as most but I it just how about many
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many possibly more than many I mean I think
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Apple like I I have a hard time imag like imagining that like apple really wants to charge for any of these things
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but like on the other hand like these AI features are kind of expensive to run so think they like a lot of them are going
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to be available for free yeah but I don't know I think there's probably going to be a tier for
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creatives and hard charging business people well you know so if we change it
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if we change it to some then we're all going to have the same answer you know well how my question is how in the world
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do you decide if it's most we leave that you count up all the features they advertise and we see like you know are
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are most of them paid or are most of them free yeah all right so are we leaving it with
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most I think we're leaving it at most let's leave it at most okay this is 14
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14 one two three press I voted no I did as well we all
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voted no it's because of the most yeah I mean funny enough if it was the sum it would have been a yes right well then we
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all would have been a yes because we know it's going to be some for sure danger of the most
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probably not going to be most but who knows all right veral headline features
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are quote coming [Laughter]
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later ready do you take any issue with the word several I'm fine with several several
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good this nice one two three press I voted
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yes yes I like that Darth inkling and level
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remix are putting gov member in their actual reply just so we know like we got to count those ones like those are the
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ones we got to count that's great I'm not sure where that started okay all
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right did you vote Yes on that sorry I I put uh yes on that yes I did okay all
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right miscellaneous category okay Vision Pro is coming to more
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countries this is certainly thought this was going to happen a month ago but didn't they already announce it
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no all right I'm ready one two three press
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headines Louis and I are yeses Griffin is a yes voted yes as well
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okay any other Hardware products are
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[Music] announced this always the this is it
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this is the one that people always want to know man and we have one more thing
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y'all M4 MacBook Pros I'd go Bonkers okay I'm ready 17 1 2
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3 press wow I voted no I also voted no as
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much as so much consensus this is getting a little nerve-wracking next question Apple
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announces partnership with open AI okay
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okay now that's a tricky question I'm not going to say
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why wait a second um now he's oh look at him think now if I could just figure out
1:06:08
from his facial expression what he's thinking maybe this will give me the the edge I need to
1:06:14
win that's actually not a bad
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point I'm just going to cover my face ha while I think cuz my face is so expressive that you probably will be
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able se My Mind die
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okay don't peek L I believe I believe I'm ready one two
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three press I voted no now look here's what I was gonna say
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but I didn't want to give Lewis any of my mental acuity here they're obviously
1:06:53
using open AI now now they could announce open AI because it's a popular
1:07:00
Topic in the AI world and it could help them so but they could also not announce
1:07:06
it because they don't want to give anyone else credit for including this AI
1:07:12
functionality in their phones which other people could also copy because Samsung could also license from open AI
1:07:18
unless Apple included in their negotiations that no one else could make this same Arrangement so clearly we
1:07:26
can't choose the cup in front of Apple I was thinking they they might so
1:07:31
I voted no I think they wouldn't they they might announce a feature as being powered by chat GPT but
1:07:38
I don't think they're going to name open AI at all because I think open AI is too mired in controversy Apple doesn't want
1:07:45
to touch that with their brand image so what did the two of you vote I voted yes you voted
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yes yeah yeah yeah yes that is interesting though CU open AI is different from chat
1:07:58
GPT yeah but then the other side of it is if it screws up they want to be able
1:08:04
to say oh look oh look look what open AI did we're so sorry to all you iPhone
1:08:09
owners we we'll try to get a open AI to fix this problem that they created that
1:08:14
we had no control over and take no no uh responsibility for I mean that's an
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interesting take as well okay what's next AI said more than 40
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times we're on number 19 mhm I'm ready when you are this okay one
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two three press I voted
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yes I voted no wow I voted
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yes we're gonna have to uh if somebody you know keeping a somebody needs one of
1:08:53
those little like clicker things like we're going to need one I mean they have so far really shied away from repeating
1:09:02
anything for that had to do with machine learning they've been using machine learning for a while but they don't talk about it in those terms so this will be
1:09:10
a shift for them if they decide to pursue a different strategy and like really Hammer around on ai ai ai ai or
1:09:17
maybe they use a different they've already started doing it it's the best Mac for AI it's the best computer for a
1:09:25
yeah dud but 40 times 40 times within I mean we're not talking about devices
1:09:31
here we're talking about software to use it 40 times within software that that is way too many but we shall see I was
1:09:38
afraid that I picked a number that would be like still too low and two OB so I'm glad that there's some division there
1:09:44
well I think that I may have just pulled ahead but let's see here here's another here's another tricky one that I tried
1:09:50
to pick exactly down the wedge of yes and no the keynote runs over 1 hour 48
1:09:56
minutes you know it's interesting this this that was such a specific number
1:10:01
that I went back and looked at the lengths of all their all their things and there's at least two that are
1:10:06
exactly 148 minutes one is 146 minutes and then a couple that are over two
1:10:12
hours it's it's uncanny that there were two that were 14 and and also did you
1:10:18
notice like it it was when they went to the uh like in the pandemic that's when they got to be under two hours prior to
1:10:25
the pandemic they were always like two plus and then pandemic hits it's all
1:10:30
canned there's no actual you know human interaction with anybody it's all just Quick Cuts and gibber not gibberish but
1:10:38
uh flashy stuff and but then last year was over two hours last year was over
1:10:44
was the first pandemic era keynote to go over two hours but that was also the keynote where they unveiled a brand new
1:10:50
product platform right I'm ready yeah
1:10:56
what was the question is will it be over 148 right will it be over 148 this is question
1:11:02
20 okay I'm ready one two three go I voted no I also voted no I
1:11:09
voted yes leis is a yes they got a lot of AI stuff they gotta yeah they gonna say AI like 45 times man but my thinking
1:11:17
is that's that's like if all of their Engineers have been working on AI then
1:11:22
they've been working less on any other features for the same amount of time like it's still it's still trading software for software you know yeah
1:11:30
that's what I'm thinking anyways okay I was actually when I saw that I was like Wow Hour 4 wait a minute oh you know
1:11:38
what I just no hour and 48 minutes right not 148 minutes right it's weird I
1:11:44
thought that they always lasted at least two hours but I was I was clearly wrong about that it feels like they've lasted
1:11:50
two hours yeah two hours is a long time all right
1:11:55
how many we have left like a couple this is this is the last question final question Wild Card pick wild type in
1:12:02
what you think is the name the California name for Mac OS
1:12:10
15 Le has at an advantage as a California resident I had to you know noodle around Apple Maps for a little
1:12:17
bit to come up with mine there's so many different things I mean my first thought of course was Mac
1:12:22
OS Turlock [Laughter] I think it's GNA be Mac OS uh
1:12:28
[Laughter] Compton all right I just had I just had
1:12:37
another can we let's let's put in multiple guesses what do you think one guess I only researched one so
1:12:45
I I yeah I I can't I'm not live in California so I don't know oh dang it I
1:12:50
but then again I've heard other like other podcasts did this game before and like Jason Snell who also lives in California was at a disadvantage because
1:12:57
he was thinking well Ventura County that's like pretty unremarkable part of California they would never name something out of that but then you know
1:13:03
that go Ventura what it could go either way God yeah it's it's weird there's so
1:13:11
many things that I I could think of I I really I think we should do more than one everybody puts in three guesses what
1:13:18
about that could you do it well then it would only that mean then it would only be worth one point instead of
1:13:23
three wa if you got got if one of your three maybe that could be an interesting game mechanic the more guesses you do
1:13:30
the fewer points you get I'll consider that for next year that was interesting
1:13:35
actually okay I'm ready God okay one two three
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press I was noodling around and and one word struck me as kind of like I've
1:13:49
never heard of that before and also might be kind of hard to spell and hard to pronounce for some people I came up
1:13:55
with Mac OS mencino it's Menino
1:14:02
exactly and then people just call it Mendo man meno mea all right well for those of you
1:14:08
listening um Lewis selected Mac OS Clear Lake I said Mac OS Coronado does not
1:14:15
does that not sound like a MACC OS name Coronado it totally does it's also I even know where Coronado is to by San
1:14:21
Diego or something they got a great Beach that's all I know and you know that Hair Force is choosing these names
1:14:27
based upon the beaches that they have here's my second uh Co r o n a d o
1:14:36
okay you know Tahoe is not a bad guess as level remix puts in there yeah yeah Ma Tahoe I can see that I I think me
1:14:44
too Ma Angels Camp what if you know it's probably
1:14:49
going to be like oh no we we decided to shift to planets or something Ma Jer zenu that's a very
1:14:58
short list uh yeah all right they only need
1:15:03
one a year get them to there's zillions of planets out there there's not in our solar
1:15:09
system ma Modesto Modesto I think they should
1:15:14
start naming them after like different foods it's like maos
1:15:20
pizza Macos carbonara I was were you guys shocked when they
1:15:26
they picked Soma last year no not at all why but we don't live in California I
1:15:32
mean you know I like somoma but I kind of figured they would if they were going to go with something like that they
1:15:38
would go with Nappa because it's is the like the more highend traditionally more
1:15:45
High you for all these rich tech people that work at Apple they're they're not going to the obvious places they're
1:15:51
they're taking the helicopter rides the top of Peaks no one else can reach operating system yeah it is kind of it
1:15:57
is kind of weird big star is beautiful yeah what did you what did you
1:16:02
pick Griffin Menino all right it's possible they are
1:16:08
a bunch of dopers down there and with
1:16:13
that the music has begun our 15-hour broadcast is coming to a conclusion I'm
1:16:19
almost out of water which means it's all in my bladder which means I got to get out of here soon all we're going about
1:16:25
to have a Mac OS uh uh
1:16:30
uh wet pants situation I'd like to reminder listeners you can submit your own predictions if
1:16:36
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