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The biggest iOS 19 leak yet! (CultCast #694)
Apr 12, 2025
This week: new leaks give us our best look yet at iOS19, plus a surprising development we weren't expecting for iPhone 17, how tariffs could affect your next iPhone purchase, and how to control your phone with just your voice. Chapters: 0:00 Preshow 14:06 Intro 18:24 CultCloth 21:09 iOS 19 leak 36:19 iPhone 17 Pro design 41:33 Apple’s tariff sales rush 51:29 American-made iPhones 1:01:24 Vocal Shortcuts 1:07:34 Instagram on iPad 1:10:22 Your Speakpipe voicemails
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okay live happened very suddenly Oops Oh you didn't give me a
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countdown Yeah sorry There was no countdown It just went live Who knows how long we've been live uh for about three seconds
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Yeah sorry there was no countdown because it was like "Would you like to go live?" I was like "I would love to go live." And it said "You're just live
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There's no countdown It's just you're just live now." Okay We got tactical mainframe in the chat We
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got who else we got Steve Coburn Dude that's just a great last name Coburn
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Isn't that like a deductive name coburn It should be Columbbo Maybe Yeah Okay We got Jeff
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Crumpley The most British last name that
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I've ever heard We got Betty Reyes in the chat We got the gang We're all ready to roll Oh man
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we have such a show today Such a show I was gonna say a great show Such We have a show We have a show
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for you today You guys are going to enjoy it I hope we're gonna talk about tariffs Who doesn't want to hear about
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tariffs am I right oh my god Uh we got Steve Coburn saying my
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videos choppy I think it's you my friend I think it's you Maybe you need to stop blinking so quickly Maybe it's because
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there's no tweet It could be the lack of a tweet Yeah because on my on my side uh Steve stabilizing tweet it's buttery
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smooth Let me send out this stabilizing tweet and see if this helps This might do it Ready it's going out in three two
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one God I love I just love yelling that as loud as I possibly can Sometimes I do
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it so loud that my guitars behind me reverberate I can actually hear the strings vibrating I mean you're far away
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from my microphone so I don't know how loud you're actually yelling at I know Because I don't want to do it and blow
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out your drums man Yeah I would hate to do that to you Drum damage I don't want you to get it
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And this this mic is so sensitive Like if I just talk talk can you even hear me at all anymore barely Barely Barely Oh
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you can Okay I'm impressed Oh my gosh So we have people here Should we go ahead
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and get this thing started do you see the tweet action there Lewis oh yeah Oh
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yeah A I'm quote tweeting it even as we speak That's it That's what I like to
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hear Oh sorry That was in the mic Oh man Spooky Roland wants more bass You can't
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handle the bass You can't handle it I bet Lewis has got a nice turn down to
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what what was that what just do dude did you guys see SNL this last weekend i almost
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never watch SNL anymore but Jack Black was on SNL and I think it was one of the
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greatest SNL performances that I've ever seen Did Did you see the sketch about
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the uh Flaming Cheetos Preparation H Oh my god I did
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He also did a sketch where it was like just him and a bunch of people playing bass Did you watch the whole thing Louis
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i think so Oh dude you would have loved it Playing bass I must have forgotten it I thought about you when I saw the
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sketch because like the whole the whole purpose of the sketch was like how annoyed he was that he was trying to play in this band and everyone brought a
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bass and they were all just like trying to play bass together and he was like "We got too many bases We need to get some more instruments up here." And then
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someone else comes out and they have a bass too And they keep bringing out like instruments that look like other instruments and he realizes there's
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actually just a bass Like one guy brought out a keyboard and he was like "Oh finally we got someone who's not played a bass." And then he like opens
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up the keyboard It turns out it's a case for a [Laughter] base Oh dude The Flaming Hot Cheetos
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Preparation H sketch is one of the all-time greatest SNL sketches I put that up there with like the cowbell with
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um with um Oh my gosh I'm spacing Christopher Walkin Uh
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Will Frell Will Frell and Christopher Walkin Yeah but Will Frell Yeah man I actually haven't seen the
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Minecraft movie yet It's doing crazy good which I'm super happy to see Um and
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from what I've heard and from all the memes I've seen I mean Jack Black just carried that movie on his back all the
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way to the US Mint I mean which is crazy if you think about it because like Jack
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Black is Jack Black in every Jack Black movie and people haven't tired of it yet And and he I I was a little leer like
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when I heard he was going to be in the movie because I'm like are people worn out on him yet he's been in so many live action movies animated movies
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And no man he just he he he seeing like what he's become and his ability to
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perform from where he used to be Like if you watch old school Jack Black movies they're kind of all over the place and
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some of them are weird Although there are some of them that are really good and in some of them he actually gives
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serious performances like Bernie which was a great movie I thought Um is it about Bernie Sanders it's actually not
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It's actually not Weekend at Bernie That actually if they did make a Weekend at
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Bernie I think Jack Black should be in that movie I I have absolutely no interest in seeing the Minecraft movie
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but I do think it's hilarious that there's going to be like I mean this Christmas season so many Christmas toys
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and stocking stuffers that are action figures of just Jack Black just middle-aged white guy I mean eventually
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it would just be Jack Black in all movies and Jack Black you know um toys
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all over the place I mean does he play like multiple parts in this movie i don't know I haven't seen it Oh maybe
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Don't spoil it I I mean I've even heard about this movie Uh and I don't know anything about Minecraft I think you
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could see the movie and still enjoy it even if you don't know anything about Minecraft but from what I've heard they've built in all sorts of like
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Easter eggs Um anyway we don't have to sit here and talk about the Minecraft It's the chicken jockey that's everybody's going crazy That's like the
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one that I have never seen anything like I mean people go berserk for that scene
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Like I saw someone brought a live chicken into the theater and I think they chucked it I'm not totally sure
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Where were you when this happened there you say you haven't seen the movie but uh I don't know I happen to know you've
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got some chickens Somebody brought a chicken Who know i don't know who There's a reason chickens end up as your
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food If you get too aggressive with a chicken and you run to first of all they're wildly inquisiquisitive animals
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They will get right up close to you they're like and they have to like turn their head to see you right cuz their their eyeballs are on the sides of their
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head So like they're constantly like looking at you sideways bouncing their head up and down And as soon as they see
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people like they go to be near the people because they I don't know think
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they're going to get fed or something And if you get aggressive and you start approaching it too quickly they freeze
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and they lift their wings like this Almost like they're almost like they're on a platter you know like they just
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completely freeze and you can just literally just go there and scoop one up And I'm like no wonder you guys are food You have like the worst defense defense
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mechanism I've literally ever seen You freeze and raise your wings as though you're presenting yourself on like a
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platter with other vegetables surrounded you That's me You think they flap
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or something now the roosters on the other hand I wouldn't get near one of those things man Like one of the most
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aggressive species you've ever seen Like that thing you know it's like bouncing its head around It's got way too much
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ego And if you even get close to it it will chase you It will peck you It's unbelievable man What they have razors
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on their feet Yeah Well I think one of my old roosters might Man this guy who wanted to buy him from us Oh my god
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Really so this is a whole another story We don't even have time for this Just just a How about just short version this
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guy comes over and I was like wondering why this guy wants a rooster because they're illegal in Seattle And roosters
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are illegal Yeah they're illegal Because of fighting or because of the because they make too much noise They're
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just too annoying They're too annoying And uh so this guy wants to buy my
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rooster and he comes over and I'm like "Look this guy looks like he is involved in fighting you know he just he
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just has the look of a guy who loves a good fight And he he I was like "Do
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you have a way to like carry the rooster?" And he's like "Oh yeah." And he he has a box that's like the perfect size Now according to him he's never
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touched the rooster been a rooster around rooster in his entire life right this is the first time So I was telling
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him I was like "We got to get the rooster." And the rooster is fast And if we get close to it he's not like the
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females He's going to bolt And so we got to go in there in in the in the coupe and we got to get him He might get out
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of the coupe So I I go in there and I'm like chasing this thing around trying to
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grab him I can't I wish I had a video of this Oh god If you want to feel a complete loss
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of all all self-resect try chasing a chicken man It's one of the most embarrassing things that you can do
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Grease pig is right up there That might be true It's like getting panced in the gym I mean I put it I put the loss of
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dignity in the same category as trying to chase a chicken around your yard And so I can't do it man This rooster is
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running all over the place I I can't catch it He's like feathers flying everywhere So this guy is like he's like
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"Let me try." So I back out His first try he goes in there dives for it grabs
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it by the feet perfectly puts it in the box like he's done it a hundred times That rooster's definitely got Yeah and
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and and it's like bowl bowling a 300 your first time you know there's no way that that guy definitely had some razor
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blades in his car prepared for the rooster's feet But what can I do i did my due diligence Like I tried to you
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know I asked him all the questions and he said he just wanted to breed his chickens and he knew how to breed you
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know stuff So I was like "Okay all right What are you gonna do?" How much did you get for the rooster 20 bucks Geez that's
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it I know My wife was pissed because she's like "You sold it for 20 bucks?" I was like "Look our neighbors were not
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happy Like we didn't know we had a rooster cuz it's very hard to sex chickens right?" So like to determine what sex they are and you order them in
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in the mail which I could do a whole another tangent just on that You get you get chickens in the mail Okay You can't
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pick them up from like a local farmers market or anything You probably could do that too but like you can order chickens in the mail A lot of people do it So
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these chickens show up and you can't tell until they start growing and then it's like "Wait a second that rooster's
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like a foot taller than everybody else his his legs are like you know 4 inches around in circumference Like he's got
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like biceps I mean there's all sorts of stuff that starts to happen you know that you can tell that the chicken is a
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rooster And then he starts crowing one morning and immediately as soon as the crow happened my neighbors they're
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texting They're pissed like "Why do you have a rooster roosters are illegal." I'm like "Dude I know God we had no idea." like so annoying So it was
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extremely urgent that we get rid of this rooster because my neighbors are now pissed and like you know I'm probably on
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the verge of calling the police to come to our house and I'm like we're going to do what we have to do to get rid of this thing Don't worry Harbor a rooster I was
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I know he was a beautiful animal too And so I at that point I was like I was happy to get anything I would have given
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him away if someone I mean if that guy was like I will I will pay you nothing but I'll come get your rooster I would have said yes because we just had to get
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rid of him Um and so I was just you know happy to get rid of him I mean that freaking bird
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probably ate way more than 20 pounds worth of food in the time he was here or $20 worth of food Don't you have like a
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stump and an axe and a pot yeah That's what my wife she's like
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we'll just kill him I'm like I'm not killing that dang thing You want me to kill a bird i don't know how to kill a
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bird Um really you got to catch it Well that guy didn't know how to catch a rooster until he just did it for the
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first time It's not like the bird goes "Oh are you going to kill me?" Okay Puts his neck out and just waits Thing's
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fighting for its life you know like that rooster is not He does not want to be picked up He's aggressive You know
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you'll probably lose an eye in the process and possibly a nipple You know I wouldn't try shirtless
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Now that's a sport right there That's a man who picks up a rooster and tries to kill him with no shirt on Oh my god How
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have we gone so far astray but I you know what do want to know how many chickens show up in a box and already
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packaged I think it's like egg containers egg cartons It's a really big
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egg carton They're loosely packed in there Are they Are they show up live or are
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they alive they're alive chickens in a box They show up Is that Does that not
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seem illegal to you that is bizarre I mean have you seen the way like USPS
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handles packages yeah And there's live how many i don't
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know I mean it's like ordering a dozen eggs I think you could I mean when they when they just huck the box from the
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sidewalk like over your fence the box you know because the chickens have wings it just it just slowly like flows down
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Yeah Slowly descends to the ground until Yeah that's exactly right Works just like that Oh man it would suck to be a
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chicken What a what a what a what a bad life All right look Should we move on
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and actually do the show what a great idea All right All right Let's go
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ahead We ceue up Mrs You know who Oh Mrs D Where's Mrs
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[Laughter] D oh Mrs D Oh my dear Did somebody say
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sex oh no No no Mrs D We were talking about sexing a chicken Oh that's something that Elani wanted to do I
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think it has a different meaning Oh now that might be a bridge too far Is
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it well that's what I thought Shame on him It's probably not even legal Mrs D no one wants to hear anything about that
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Please never tell us about anything that he's asked about or asked you to do We're here to talk about the Apple news
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So if you don't mind we'll get this thing rolling
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in and welcome to Cass 30 plus You're going to hear all week long I'm your
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Griffin Jones is here Good evening Uh you know Airun I used to ask you at the
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top of the show you know when it was it was a time when you were considering buying a new computer just about every
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week whether you had made any purchases but I mean I don't know what to ask now Are you happy with your MacBook Pro and
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iPad oh man So yes I absolutely love my MacBook Pro It's probably the best
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machine I've ever owned I love that it's I love it's for that it's 14 in I was really worried that would be too small
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And it's not as comfortable in the lap as the 16inch funny enough Um I actually like the 16 inch better in the actual
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lap just because it stays in place and doesn't shift all around when you're move when you're moving But that's the
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only thing I don't like as much as the 16inch Everything about it absolutely
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terrific I like the color scheme that I got I got silver by the way The the machine is absolutely insane from a
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power perspective So no regrets on that whatsoever I also love my iPad but like the funny thing about the iPad Pro And
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this is a testament to how good Apple makes the iPads and how overpowered they are when you buy them
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Not a lot of difference between my iPad Pro and the um or the M4 iPad Pro and
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the A12X 2018 iPad Pro that I bought I mean did you notice a difference when
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you briefly returned your first M4 MacBook Pro and went back to your M1 my M1 Max
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not really I mean from for for what I typically do
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from a per performance perspective not a ton and and that's that's on me Probably
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the same for the iPad as I'm not using it to do all the powerful stuff that they built it to do So not not a huge
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amount but but it's definitely snappier And it I think the biggest improvement
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for me which has nothing to do with the M4 is just the size difference And also
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I wanted to get it before the tariffs went went into into place I had no idea the tariffs would ever get nearly
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potentially as bad as as they seem to have gotten So So I wasn't even expecting it to make that huge of a
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difference I was like "Oh maybe prices might go up 10 15%." But nothing like what might end up happening Although it
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seems like Apple maybe actually does have a chance of carving out an exception for themselves If not dude
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there's no way they're going to be able to eat the cost of the increase Now I think it is worth
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noting that like for the tariffs that I think that the tariffs apply to the manufacturing cost and not the retail
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cost So Apple may be able to eat a chunk of it but they're going to definitely
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pass on Certainly not 125% of it No way No way Anyway we'll talk more about that
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We um we'll talk about how terrorists might impact your next Apple purchase Oh
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my goodness What else do we got i uh I have no idea because I closed my notes Oh no here we go iOS 19 leaks Probably
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our best look yet We got some Well we got a surprise um leak about well it's
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not a leak really about iPhone 17 Pro Some surprise details there Um Griffin's
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going to tell us about why an all-American iPhone is impossible Literally never going to happen I might argue a little bit And then we'll wrap
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up with your voicemail message I'd say messages but
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we only have one that singular Yeah Um and we've got some other stuff mixed in
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here as well that you all might find interesting Before we dive in if I may
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let's go ahead and dive in Let's talk about Did I open the wrong story here i sure did Should we talk about iOS 19
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Lewis and while you get into that I will bring up the actual URL Oh I don't know why I have that wrong one open Oh dear
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Uh yeah John Proer's back again sharing more recreated renders of iOS 19 Okay
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these are supposedly based on even newer build than what he showed off last time in a video Uh in this latest video uh he
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he shows that uh Apple might adopt rounder squirrel icons and rounded UI
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elements throughout the iPhone's operating system Everything from home screen icons to control center toggles Everything gets
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like rounder I see what happened The wrong URL is in
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here The wrong URL Oh my god I can see it right now Yep Look at that That's
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terrible Someone would be disciplined if they didn't live in the rural area of Ohio Well someone must have changed the
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permal link What i don't know how that happened No no it's it's you got That's the second story It's got the same URL
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twice Oh okay Yeah Now I am the fool Don't worry Watch your back Griffin
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Watch your back All right keep going Let's see Uhhuh Let's see Unlike the circular
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icons in Vision OS and we've been here about for weeks or months now that uh iOS is going to look more like Vision OS
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Unlike the circular icons in Vision OS Apple plans use icons with a corner radius of about 30 degrees You know what
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it's kind of a dramatic difference Yeah it's uh it looks way more modern I
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like the little shine they've got on it I mean certain elements of this thing look great you know like uh uh other US
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other UI elements kind of look good with that sort of different corner radius Um
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you know if you look at the video you know revamp the system toggles animations in line with it it all kind
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of looks the same What's weird to me and it's probably one of those things where you get used to it after a month or a
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week or whatever but the circles or the app icons they're not quite round and
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they're not quite the the regular squirrel They're they're like fat little you know chubby squirkles or I don't
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know It's just weird Looks bizarre And uh Hey stop body shaming the iOS 19
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Thank you I was just thinking that I am grossed out actually by by your rhetoric
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I'm kind of a squ stout little squirrel myself Uh that that is true Hey can I just say real fast just real fast
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So Proser's messaging me as we speak You're kidding me I'm dead serious
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Lee John Proer and he just sent me a screenshot of what these icons are based
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on You're kidding me He told me I can't share it on the show so I won't so I won't show it to you But I would say
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that what you see here is a accurate very accurate representation of what
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appears to be in this screenshot So I don't know if John's listening Um hopefully hopefully you didn't mean
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don't share that You're messaging me I won't share the image obviously Oh jeez I don't think so I think he meant just
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don't share the Yeah Don't don't share the the render Yeah Yeah You got it I won't Okay Uh so if people aren't familiar with
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Proser you know he runs Front Page Tech YouTube channel Yeah And uh what they've
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been doing lately is showing they've been recreating mockups that he says are based on things shown to him by you know
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sources or source or sources within Apple They they look at it they
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recreated in the video and their videos are really um I think they're great Uh they're irreverent and they're very well
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produced videos Uh one of the things in this video Proser says that uh some of
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the like the the app icons look normal at first but when you press them or tap
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them they they turn into those weirder squirles right like it's like almost like an animation And and who knows i
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mean as he said in the video maybe Apple eventually is going to get this to where they are completely round Maybe they
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just animate from square to round or maybe they're I think he said in the video that it's it's probably just to
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disguise the actual design of the home screen Like the I I imagine the shipping version of of iOS 19 they'll all
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actually be squirles and you'll only see the squirles But in this pre-release build they only it only shows the squirrel app icons when you tap on them
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just to disguise I'm sorry You're just you you're just casually introducing a new word to our vernacular A squirrel
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It's a squared circle And and already the apps or the app icons already are
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squirles It's just I've literally never heard that word before Okay Squirier They do look squirly Yeah you're right A
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squirle Yeah it's a great word We're in for a hot squirle summer
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I kind of like the squirrel to be honest with you Like the more I look at these icons the more I like them Yeah Well as
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Griffin was saying you know um Proer was just kind of speculating that maybe this is like a stealth mode so people can
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test it test the new operating system on their phones you know Apple Apple
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employees See if I can play a little bit of this without so it look normal and until you actually interact with it
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Um let's see As part of i9 Apple were also supposedly revamp its system apps
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add pillshaped bottom tab which is actually looks pretty cool in in the video Uh a bottom tab with slick
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animations in the messages app The search option will shift to the bottom I love that idea I am so tired of searches
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at the top of the screen Any searches they can put at the bottom is fantastic Yeah that is Like I I think I think it
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might be a little hard to describe this if you're not looking at it but generally apps that have like the tab
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bar navigation on the bottom like where you can tap between the different tabs for like you know different top level
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hierarchies like in the music app you have a tab for library Apple Music radio search whatever Um instead of seeing all
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of those options at the bottom of the screen all the time it'll be sort of minimized and you can tap on like the current icon to expand it to like sort
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of bring it up as a menu And then you'll also have like a search bar visible all the time And this will probably vary app
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by app But generally Apple is going away with the tab bar saying like you know
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instead we're going to have like this sort of dynamic menu at the bottom that's like floating and can you know
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transform into different other controls And I think this actually does I know
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that Proser and German have been uh sort of sparring to say the least over the
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accuracy of these rumors but to me this design sort of uh lines up with
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what Mark German said that and I think he put something like kind of incredibly vague in one of his newsletters from a
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month ago that like iOS in addition to the redesign iOS 19 will be easier to navigate and will simplify whatever user
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interface It kind of means nothing But uh this would be an example of that if that if
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that is true Like you know this this redesigned fluid tab bar Yeah And and it
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does look it gives it like a more threedimensional look kind It's it does it remind you of vision OS a lot i mean
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it definitely has vision OS vibes Yeah Vision It's not
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quite as functional because like on vision OS you know you have like the main app window and then you have like a
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vertical strip of icons on the side and then you your eyes look at them and then it expands to like show the labels and
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all that This isn't you know this doesn't function the same way because it obviously your phone doesn't know where
28:53
your eyes are looking but um it does seem to Yeah like like Aron said Vision
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OS vibes You know you tap on this thing and it expands into a bigger menu That that part of it looked cool I mean
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I wasn't such a fan of the stout squirles but uh anyway so despite these changes
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Processor says iOS 19 will not introduce major functional redesign or new features That that can't be true right i
29:19
guess he means major new features Um perhaps my favorite part about all this as far was pointing out uh is the
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sort of back and forth between Proer and uh Mark a frequent source Yeah Uh oh man
29:34
I don't know if you watched the video but uh Proser even he he referenced
29:40
Gurman a couple of times in the video including a rather disparaging term that he used for him Um
29:47
I'm sure it wasn't just Yeah I'm sure it was too Uh but then you know just as
29:52
this happened before after Proer releases this thing makes a big splash everybody's talking about the latest iOS
29:59
19 leak mockup whatever uh German without mentioning Proser uh you know
30:06
basically says well all these images you're seeing floating around are you know not not accurate they seem to be based on a very old build and and and
30:12
Proser even goes into that in this video he's like that's why we're doing this we we got back with this source we check
30:17
more and whatever and of course immediately after uh after Proser releases his latest video German replies
30:24
on a a news story based on you know this video German replies on This isn't going
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to hold up well It'll be off by like 10 pixels and
30:37
that'll be called a win right yeah I just uh I love it It's too bad Griffin couldn't hang out today I don't know
30:43
what happened to him Yeah dude Look he's he's completely frozen but look how happy he is RIP Griffin He had a good
30:48
run Griffin just messaged me He said he lost his internet connection The wind
30:53
blew in Yeah central Ohio Yeah No joke That actually might be it you know he
30:58
has surprisingly robust internet for using a cell tower for his connection
31:04
and for where he's located which I don't actually know where that is but it is somewhere rural in Ohio Like all all his
31:11
neighbors uh moo so he he's got um surprisingly good internet Uh yeah but
31:18
you know it's it's surprising how little bandwidth it actually takes I mean like I've done this this from uh Ohio using
31:25
uh a Verizon hot using iPhone as a hot spot many times It's amazing that that
31:30
works By the way just kind of aside a news item So we do this show live every
31:37
week obviously and you can watch it um livetheultcast.com You can always go to
31:43
watch.thecult.com to see our archive of YouTube videos if you all ever want to watch it
31:49
But we are loose So this is how the sausage is made And maybe this is not
31:54
interesting so I'll do this quick They're retiring Skype next in a month
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We use Skype to make this program And Skype has a very specific feature that we need to do this to do this live
32:06
stream And we're like scrambling to find a Skype replacement that supports NDI
32:12
output So if anyone knows of any good platforms that allow you to use NDI output let me know on the all new X if
32:19
you would because I can't find anything that does what Skype does And if we
32:25
don't have NDI output as a feature I don't know that we can do a video format of this show Now that doesn't really
32:31
matter because most people listen to the show So in fact a lot of people I think would prefer if we didn't do the video feed Like some people have comment might
32:38
be a win-win Some people have commented that ever since Look how Look how cheerful That's like the most happy I've
32:44
ever seen him Look at him I can't see him He's You can't Oh no I just see
32:49
You're not looking at the feed That's why No Oh Oh I got it right Yeah I love that in OBS if you get disconnected it
32:55
doesn't actually disconnect you It just it just frees frames like the last frame that it received from you and uh you're
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just you're you're just uh you know forever there with whatever expression you were making Um thank Yeah it is nice
33:08
that that Griffin has such a smile on his face Look at him It looks like someone just gifted him a new haird
33:14
dryer Look how happy he is Anyway so we we we at a certain point we
33:21
may I don't know need to not do the live video feed I I don't know So just a
33:26
heads up that might be coming down the pipe We've been making all sorts of changes to the show Um and this is why
33:32
we don't change the show because whenever we do stuff becomes difficult um or we have unexpected issues We'll
33:39
see what happens But before we move on I want to say a big thanks to David Howard
33:44
for the 29.99 super chat Love this podcast When will Narc Ferman be texting
33:49
everyone oh dude any moment now Any moment to give me his side of the story
33:56
Yeah I would love to have Gur on I don't know So the thing that I don't know
34:01
about German and I don't mind saying this openly like I I'm so grateful for all of his scoops because they make our
34:07
show much more entertaining I really don't know if Mark German likes us I just don't know Like the
34:14
interactions I've had with Mark I I get the sense that he doesn't and he probably wouldn't want to do our show Like he and I chitchated in the past um
34:22
a little bit like not very much And I always got the sense that he just wasn't
34:27
wasn't really a big fan of ours though I would cherish his fandom You know I don't know Maybe our sense of humor is
34:34
too wacky or he thinks that we're not serious He goes does not compute Maybe it's the humor does not compute The eye
34:40
just starts twitching You know it's like you've given him a a product or a question with two logical solutions and
34:46
he's not sure which to pick He goes on the Mac Rumor show occasionally So he
34:51
does do podcasts from time to time I would I I would welcome Mark Mark if you're listening I would welcome you to
34:57
come on We won't even we won't even have any fun while you're here just to make you comfortable Jeez
35:04
dude That guy's probably a party animal The guys that are serious like it's like it's like it's like the Japanese right
35:10
like a very serious culture but then you look at their game shows and you're like dude what is going on here it's like
35:15
they're very serious about work and then they're very serious about play I have a feeling that's German Like he probably
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has the all-time longest record of staying on the bowl at the bar right like they don't even want to let him get
35:27
on the bull because he'll be there for like three hours right and no one else can use it That's probably grim Um thank
35:33
you for that super chat David Howard Uh Leander Kenny is going to enjoy that that
35:39
$30 Um yeah John if you want to come on the show you're welcome anytime We'll have
35:44
you on You can even bring Sam if you have to Yeah he's uh in the chat Okay
35:50
great Yeah if you if you need a a wingman you can bring Sam too Just ask him not to say anything if you don't
35:55
mind Jeez I'm I'm just joking People take me too
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seriously It looks like we got um Griffin back Welcome back Griffin He went outside and he back shook the tin
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can Yeah that's great He went up there and he adjusted the the metal antenna It
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was like a lightning storm had blown it over So like it was a life or death death maneuver All right Well speaking
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of stuff that you guys might be interested in here's here's I think this might this might interest people even more than this iOS 19 story which we're
36:26
trying to describe to you considering that like 95% of our audience listens to
36:31
the show and doesn't watch it and here we are talking about design changes I'm so sorry Let's talk about this real
36:37
quick iOS can't even say it iPhone 17 Pro might defy the leaks
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Guess according to who well his name starts with Narc How about that dude
36:50
lewis look at you on the cough button That's incredible Good catch right geez
36:56
No kidding That looks like a big one too It was uh Your whole body was shaking Shook things up He's coughing like crazy
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So iPhone 17 Pro lineup might not ship with as many design changes as the rumors initially suggested Guess
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according to who A new report says the iPhone 17 Pro is pretty much gonna look
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like the iPhone 16 Pro with maybe some small changes Uh let's see here We won't talk
37:24
about all the rumors again I guess I probably should Rumors circulating since last year indicate the iPhone 17 Pro
37:29
will feature major design changes with Apple moving from titanium edges to aluminum I always thought that was a
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weird one cuz they just moved to titanium and they came from aluminum It was like such a big deal Yeah And it was
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such a huge thing right those rumors say the iPhone Pro will switch to a part aluminum part glass design The bottom
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half would use a glass panel to ensure wireless charging I just got a new wireless charger by the way Keep your
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eyes on Woot man Woot's got some great deals every every once in a while I got a new wireless charger from Belcon Thing
37:59
is great Cost me like $15 German Gurman came into the chat in his
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new newsletter and said "Yeah all those things you've heard don't expect those
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things." He said "iPhone 17 is going to quote uh not expect a quote particularly
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bold new look The upcoming iPhone will look a lot like the 16 Pro with the back camera module sporting the biggest
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design changes which I would be okay with because I really like that new design but it won't look like or it
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won't look at all like the iPhone 17 Pro renders floating around the internet Is Proer still in the
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chat let's see Okay I'll read it Uh I I assume this
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is John Proer It just says FTP I can't say it Sorry John FPT FTP and
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FPT are so similar and everyone knows FTP because like the transfer protocol
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right okay John says "I like how at first German Gur told German
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said okay German said I faked the iPhone 17 Pro leak and now is like eh it's not
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going to be that color probably Sorry pal." Hey if you're if you're like more than
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10 pixels off in your render you know that's going to be the story right
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that you got it wrong Um let's see According to German sources the iPhone
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17 Pro will not adopt a two-tone back Instead it will stick to a uniform color
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that matches the rest of the device Okay so not a huge change Um German notes it
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will mark the most sign significant design overhaul since the iPhone 12 in
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2020 Um according to German let's see here Apple is seemingly reserving the
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bigger design changes for the iPhone's 20th anniversary in 2027 Uh if the iPhone 10 was anything to
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go by we could see the company introduce a completely redesigned iPhone Uh according to German's report it will
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make extensive use of glass More extensive use of glass More extensive use of glass Thank you The long delayed
40:08
foldable iPhone also apparently will launch in 2027 to celebrate the iPhone's 20th anniversary That makes sense to me
40:14
We'll see what happens I have a theory on the marketing name Yeah Okay What's that in 2017 they unveiled the iPhone 10
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spelled with X I wouldn't be surprised if in 2027 they unveiled the iPhone 20
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spelled iPhone XX And then I can even imagine the the video too Like it it it
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starts like you know Apple reveal video dramatic zooms You can't really see what the product is and then it zooms out and
40:38
you see the front of it with an X on it and then and then it opens like a book like a folding iPhone and then you see
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XX Okay I'm trying to visualize what you're saying The iPhone XX I just feel like
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that's a lot to say Well Apple would prefer you call it iPhone 20 Yeah Go on Okay there you go
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again All right we've got it on record If you get it right lunch is on me Griffin
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Okay Any any Subway in your local area 6 inch on me I'd offer the 12 in but
41:12
those things are so expensive now dude It's crazy It's like $70 for a foot long
41:18
Not to mention it's kind of hard to spend more than $5 at a subway Wouldn't you agree it just feels like $5 should
41:24
be the price It shouldn't never go above that All right I've dazzled you with my
41:30
wittiness Let's move on Let's see here What What else do we got here
41:37
oh back to me How did you How did you wind up with two in a row you I don't know That doesn't often happen and I try
41:42
to avoid it But that that happens when I make the show notes on Monday and then nobody signs up for any stories and we
41:48
settle it five minutes before we go live and then we find out that oh wow we didn't plan this very well did we
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no Well I would say we planned it as well as we need to because it's just going perfectly so far Let me talk about
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tariffs If you were wondering if tariffs might affect you well I don't see how they
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couldn't Um let me open up the story A lot of customers are obviously very wor worried about about tariffs and I don't
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see how you couldn't be because I don't see how the tariffs are not going to affect every single product that you
42:22
brought that you buy according to what we've seen so far Now that like the the saga of the tariffs is like the saga of
42:28
movie pass Every day changes You don't know what's going to happen and you will
42:35
see massive swings from week to week I mean just this week if you haven't been keeping up there were all these tariffs
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that were put in place and now all the tariffs have been paused for 90 days except for things that come from China which unfortunately is where the main
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Foxcon family or family uh uh Foxcon factory is Like yeah Apple has
42:52
diversified their supply chain a little bit but not very much Still like well over 95% of the iPhones are made in
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China Yeah And I don't And some just happen to be made in Thailand and Vietnam right and obviously that's not
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something that you can change quickly Um Apple employees said customers voiced concerns recently over tariff induced
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price rises People want to upgrade before prices skyrocket I heard there was like a absolute swarm of people
43:16
hitting Apple stores going to buy stuff because they want to get in before the prices go up Um some estimates say top
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iPhones priced at $999 since 2017 could top $2,000 a piece after tariffs take
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effect Griffin you seem to know what was what was the final tariff that we that we arrived on for China it wasn't like
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120% 125% 125% Now I don't know if I mentioned this while we were recording
43:41
or before the show I think the tariffs apply to the manufacturing price and not to the retail price So it's hard to
43:46
exactly know how much the tariffs will affect the final price But I think obviously enough that Apple and TC
43:54
particularly is not going to just swallow it You're going to end up paying for it Um and we could probably do a whole hour on like what tariffs are and
44:00
how they affect prices and stuff but I don't think we need to do that Um almost every customer oh quote almost every
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customer asked me if prices were going to go up said one worker who described panic buying among customers Oh this is
44:14
good for my Apple stock Maybe this end up being a good thing for me as an Apple stock owner It's like better get in
44:19
there and buy quick before the prices go up Um Apple declined to comment on the situation
44:25
obviously Sources indicate Apple's uh domestic retail stores over the weekend
44:30
topped prior years in some big markets Dude what's what's it going to do to Vision Pro i mean Vision Pro is gonna be
44:38
it's it's basically going to tank sales of Vision Pro I don't know All 12 of their sales remaining for the year
44:45
Cancel those 12 sales TC You think they have enough in a locker somewhere to They might actually They might actually
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Um Yeah there there was actually the rumor that they were going to like stop the production line like a few months ago
44:57
that happened and they've just already made and they just have a giant warehouse of them or something sitting in like the countries where they think
45:02
they'll get the most sales Who cares about Apple product i want to know what's going on with Nintendo Switch 2
45:07
That's what we need to know They canled the pre-orders and they kept the um the
45:14
release date in place but you know everyone's wondering I mean look we're like months and months away from iPhones
45:21
A lot could happen before the iPhone gets released but like the Switch 2 is supposed to get released in mere weeks
45:27
And it's going to be one of the hottest you know pieces of technology that you can get your hands on And
45:35
Nintendo I was they canceled the pre-orders I presumably to weigh the
45:40
tariffs which they hadn't even considered when they priced the Switch originally even though the prices were raised 50% over the Switch One And so
45:47
now with this pause in place we might be good to get our pre-orders in But like that's the thing man Like what's going
45:54
to be going on with the Switch too everyone wants to know Well and maybe not everyone but definitely me So if you
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were planning on buying some some Apple tech I mean I don't want to Well here
46:07
here's the thing about Switch 2 prices Yeah I mean first I want to start off by saying uh I know not a lot of people
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listened to last week's episode because I just came up with a pretty terrible title for it that wasn't very engaging
46:18
If you want to hear and I talk more about the Switch 2 and you skip last week's episode uh listen to the after show uh from episode 693 where we talk
46:26
about it for like maybe 30 minutes and uh Lewis almost dies of boredom Uh next
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what I want to say is that I did the math and in Canada the Switch 2 with the
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Mario Kart bundle is $699 Canadian Maple Leafs You know you
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do the conversion rate and it's actually a little cheaper in USD $492
46:50
currently Mhm So if they if Nintendo has tariffs on on you know the Nintendo
46:55
Switch 2 in Canada I mean sorry in the United States for Air and I I mean we're pretty close to the Canadian border
47:00
That's like a day trip in back We could just buy one in Canada for cheaper than the regular price in the US and drive
47:07
back It's only a three-hour drive for me to get to Canada from here Actually less than three hours That's that's to get to
47:13
Vancouver So like to get to actual Canada is probably two hours
47:18
Some kind of store on the time to the nearest GameStop I mean it's like three and a half for me because I just go up
47:23
through Detroit and it's like right there Now you're going to spend at least $60 in gas So I'm not sure it's still
47:29
worth it but again it might the price go might go up $150
47:34
Well that's that that's true Like you just don't really know exactly how much tariffs are going to affect it In that in that case it might be worth going up
47:40
there Sorry Louis What were you going to say well you could kayak there Oh yeah Yeah And I and I do on a regular basis
47:47
It only takes me two weeks Cross Lake Erie Almost died three times
47:54
Yeah I might consider that depending on what happens I mean I heard that the Switch 2 in Japan with the currency
48:01
conversion was $350 but they region locked it at least what I heard in Japan because they don't
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want people exporting them and bringing them here And so I wouldn't be surprised to learn they're going to be re region locking Switch 2 so that people aren't
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doing triage and bringing them from you know cheaper markets to to here It's going to be a hot console for sure The
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thing is with with the tariffs like I was just talking with someone about this um the other day I was like how what's
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what's your topline price on the Switch 2 right like for me
48:33
550 maybe 600 with the game That's my absolute max dude I am not spending more
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than $600 on a Switch too If the tariffs affect it that much and the prices
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skyrocket I'll just wait Although who knows how long you would have to wait
48:51
before prices went back down The price is a little high for me because uh I no longer own a Switch One so I need to buy
48:56
a new Pro Controller and new JoyCons as well So I'm already going to be spending like 650 bucks Oh yeah And actually I
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hadn't even considered the accessories which I also plan on buying Joycon the camera if you want that That's right I
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don't know if the Pro Controllers that currently exist will work with the Switch 2 They will but you won't get the
49:15
uh the extra buttons and the C button And I think there's one other feature that weird little feature that doesn't work on the new one which you know
49:22
they're going to integrate in the game in such a way that doesn't work Yeah exactly It's like all you can do is
49:27
drive you in Mario Kart you can drive the car but you can't shoot anything It's like oh great okay Yeah So I don't
49:33
know but it seems like we might be in the clear So now this is kind of an aside I
49:39
realized that but if you do want the Switch to when the pre-orders go live which I bet they're going to announce this week maybe next week You got to get
49:46
that pre-ordered in ASAP man Because it's only I think the Trump administration said any country that has
49:53
come to the negotiating table on tariffs gets a 90day a 90-day reprieve Who knows
49:59
what's going to happen after that I mean anything goes And so if you want that switch too again I don't want to cause
50:04
panic buying here but if I don't get a switch too I'm going to be panicked So and maybe that's you too So just to let
50:12
you know you know if you're wondering if you're like "Hey like what are other people thinking?" Like for me I'm getting that pre-order in as soon as
50:18
possible I don't think Nintendo's going to raise the price They'll probably leave it in place for now And especially
50:24
considering all the negative press they got Go listen to the episode we did last week The I mean to to Griffin's point we
50:30
did like 30 minutes of exposition on the Switch too We talked everything about it
50:35
And um I haven't looked at the numbers I didn't realize last episode was was so terrible We should change the I because
50:40
it was part of the after show I felt weird like putting switch two in the title Yeah Yeah Because we didn't it wasn't really part of the real episode
50:47
but I I should have just called it switch two talk Do it You should do it I'll retroactively change the title You know what i'll do that Yeah See if it if
50:53
it tempts anyone else Um let's see here Yeah people are saying
50:59
$4.99 max price 550 for me with the game Yeah I think that's going to be it
51:06
for me I mean it's hard to ask more than $500 or $600 for a console because that I mean just that price alone rules out a
51:13
lot of people They're going to be like "Can't do it." I'm okay with waiting I mean again like the the newest console
51:20
in my house is a is a Nintendo 64 So is that really That's the newest one Yeah
51:27
that's right Because you got rid of your Switch All right let's move on What do we got left uh okay Okay Griffin's going to tell us
51:32
about how the tariffs might motivate Apple to start producing iPhones here
51:38
and how in his opinion that's literally never going to happen It's impossible You shall not pass Just imagine Griffin
51:45
with a robe and a beard This is your moment Griffin Let us know Don't get your hopes up is basically the the summary of this story Uh so a top goal
51:54
of uh Trump's tariffs allegedly is to uh force companies to you know move
52:00
production to the United States That's what I I feel like people are maybe like reading into it and inferring that
52:05
that's a goal But um because there are better ways to do that if that actually is the plan than implement these tariffs
52:11
Uh but this is not a political podcast Uh so uh people the the goal might be to
52:19
you might think that uh you would want to bring iPhone assembly to the United
52:25
States Uh the problem is that that's not really possible So it could be argued you you might
52:32
think that oh well you know Apple's the richest company in the world Apple has all these resources They could afford to
52:38
build the manufacturing lines in the United States And that is true under ordinary circumstances Uh the problem is
52:45
that if every company every tech company is expected to bring their manufacturing
52:51
to the United States simultaneously there would be like a there would be a significant lack of
52:57
resources when it comes to buying the machines to make the machines You can't build a US manufacturing facility if
53:04
everybody is trying to build a US manufacturing facility And there would be you would actually run into like a
53:10
limit on the supply of these machines Um secondly the machines themselves are
53:17
going to be significantly more expensive due to the same tariffs on the products A lot of these manufacturing machines
53:23
are made in China understandably So Apple wouldn't be able to build new manufacturing lines in the US because
53:30
they would have to import all of these you know manufacturing robots also at the same higher cost along with every
53:36
other company that's trying to do this at the same time Um Ryan Peterson the CEO of logistics company Flexport told
53:43
Bloomberg quote "Because of the tariffs because the machines they are going to buy are too expensive now." So that's
53:51
interesting Yeah And uh thirdly even if
53:56
Apple did have access to the machines because they probably could win a price war with you know other companies they
54:02
could buy the machines if if they really wanted to Uh but even if they were to do that the they wouldn't have enough
54:08
people to run the factories The US unemployment rate is at 4.2%
54:14
So there aren't millions of people willing to relocate and or take on a
54:19
menial factory job uh much less all the people needed to build the new factories uh and won't be available to work in
54:26
them So uh there's a limited supply of you know humans who would take on these
54:32
jobs as well in the US Uh fourthly the labor cost would
54:38
be possibly an order of magnitude higher According to an analyst who spoke at the
54:44
Wall Street Journal the cost to pay workers to assemble a single iPhone in China like the total number of human
54:51
hours that that wage in China is roughly $30 While the United States that would
54:56
be $300 Wow Yeah Quite a bit more Which you know it's hard to know Is that the
55:04
total cost of the iPhone uh does that that's a cost of the human labor part of
55:10
the iPhone to build each iPhone Okay Okay So that that that definitely is a significant increase in cost That's
55:17
really interesting You know I I think Tim Tim Cook said a while ago that part of what prohibits them from building
55:23
phones here is like we just don't lack the skilled workers and the factories
55:28
and the in the industry to build the phones here which I think is true of probably a lot of tech And to your last
55:35
point here like this is going to take years Like if they were able to get this
55:40
done quickly I think quickly would be three to five years Like that would be extremely quickly right like I think
55:47
more more Yeah The TSMC chip fabrications in Arizona took five years to open Yeah And you know that's just
55:53
for the chips They could do it faster if they like really put a lot of focus from like a
56:01
government supports and industrial support cutting red tape working with
56:07
schools I mean there's so many things that would have to come together like they could do it but I think realistically you're probably looking
56:12
looking at like 5 to 10 years before like the industry could be restored here to build this stuff 5 to 10 years of
56:19
dumping enormous amounts of money and getting in price wars that Apple does not want to get in It would be an
56:25
enormous undertaking And you know part of this you can't you can't like yeah
56:30
while the Tim Cook era of Apple did invest heavily in China to get them to where they are today Uh you know
56:37
possibly they they could have done better to hedge their bets and put all of their eggs like you know more than 95% of
56:45
their eggs all in one basket of China because again it is really easy to to cut off that supply and make it you know
56:52
make all all of their manufact you know suddenly their entire manufacturing line is is into question here but um which I
56:57
think yeah ironically enough I I would say is kind of like Donald Trump's point
57:02
it's like you know from nationally is if you're if you're looking to one country to fulfill fill all of your
57:09
manufacturing needs and you have any issues with manu or you have any issues with that country they can cut you off
57:15
And it kind of reminds me of a spec a specific example um during the era of
57:20
COVID like with the whole mass situation like I think there was a while where China stopped shipping us PPE like
57:26
protective equipment because they wanted to keep it for themselves And what do you do if that happens with
57:32
pharmaceuticals or you know components for technology or whatever which is one
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of the reasons why I think Apple definitely needs to diversify and actually I think more more likely than
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Apple moving manufacturing here which I would love to see they're they're going to move it to other countries that are willing to deal with the administration
57:52
and cut a deal right like if Japan's willing to cut a deal Foxcon has factories everywhere they have a huge factory in India like it seems more
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likely that the Indian um factory of Foxcon would end up being where the
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production gets shifted to But that's going to take a while too Like they're not going to do that in in six months
58:10
Like that would probably they already started moving like production lines to India years and years ago right which
58:15
just goes to show like how complicated this kind of stuff is Yeah That phone that you have is a technological
58:21
masterpiece It's like the precision that is probably required to build and assemble that phone I would imagine
58:29
takes years and years and years and years to to to perfect Otherwise making it cost under a thousand dollars is the
58:35
real miracle of it Like yes the technology exists but making technology affordable and mass-produced on the
58:40
scale of literal billions that's that's the complicated part That's the part that gets you So yeah um it is possible
58:47
that Apple could over time continue to diversify their supply chain slowly but
58:52
surely but uh diversifying it back to the United States uh is a bit of a fantasy So there you go Just another
58:59
argument to if you have an Apple purchase that you've been thinking about making like now iPhones obviously you can't do it because you got to wait for
59:05
the next iPhone you know but for like virtually any other Apple product you can buy them now and
59:13
it may be worth it Again I don't want to cause you to panic buy but if these tariffs go back into effect dude it's
59:20
going to be it's going to raise the price of everything and and for a period of time that is hard to determine like
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it could be years It could be years and um I know we're all following this very
59:32
closely So buy that switch too when it gets gets announced You got to get get your hands on it Get get a few of them
59:37
because once the tariffs go into place you could you could flip a few of them on eBay No I'm just joking
59:43
Price people are like doing the math on um people are doing like the math on because Apple is making all these like
59:48
emergency flights like lifelining as many iPhones they can by Boeing 747 into the United States I heard that story How
59:55
many phones could that possibly even be well somebody did the math I This is from like daring fireball Uh even like
1:00:02
five full Boeing 747s of iPhones only equates to about we estimate 12 days of
1:00:09
sales Okay That is mind-blowing Yeah Because they just sell so many iPhones
1:00:14
in the United States Yeah Wow I mean how many phones can you fit on an airplane
1:00:21
you know well people were like some people were trying to do the math of like the volume
1:00:26
of a box and like the volume of a cargo bay but if you actually just look at like the weight limit of a 747 like they
1:00:33
Apple can't possibly exceed the weight limit of a plane like that's just a fixed number And if you divide like you
1:00:38
know the the weight of an iPhone box is well known because they ship these things you know it's like whatever 9
1:00:43
ounces or something like that And if you divide it by that five planes you get 12 days worth of iPhone sales Yeah I I
1:00:50
that's why I was like I don't you know this story is believable Like why would Apple just start carting in as many
1:00:56
phones as they can now i I I don't know to go through all that effort for 12 days of supply to your point Like even
1:01:02
if you're like a week off it still doesn't make any sense So I don't know that they're actually carding phones in
1:01:09
via I mean honestly though the least believable part of that story is that Apple can only get their hand on five Boeing 747s I know Like you'd think that
1:01:15
they would reserve all FedEx planes for like the next you know two months and have nothing but iPhones coming into the
1:01:21
country but I don't know if that's even possible for them All right look let's um let's move on shall we what do we got
1:01:28
going on next i've got a cool tip Oh yeah For everybody out there I'll let
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you uh pass out this tip We got a quick story about a new app coming to iPad that you might be interested in I got a
1:01:41
speak pipe a speak pipe message we're going to do and then we'll wrap it up
1:01:47
So we've we've been a little pessimistic about Siri on this show Is that fair to
1:01:53
say no no no You're being too hard Realistic Realistic Okay Yeah Realistic
1:01:58
Uh well this is related to I I'll connect the dots here Apple has a new accessibility feature in iOS 18 called
1:02:06
Vocal Shortcuts If you haven't heard about it vocal shortcuts let you control your phone by just speaking a command
1:02:13
out loud So it's kind of like you know hey voice assistant that that phrase
1:02:18
that I'm not going to say out loud on the podcast Hey voice assistant You know that activates your phone Well you can
1:02:24
create your own custom trigger phrase like that that run that automates your
1:02:29
phone So you open the settings app on your iPhone You go to accessibility and
1:02:34
it's just an item kind of down at the bottom vocal shortcuts And you know here's how you set it up You just like
1:02:40
uh you can you can have a vocal shortcut that runs a Siri request So if you do
1:02:46
use Siri for you know playing the a particular type of music every day or something like that you can type in you
1:02:52
know whatever you want there But the real magic comes because you can have a vocal shortcut trigger any uh shortcut
1:02:59
that you have on your phone in the shortcuts app So that's pretty cool actually Yeah you can pick any shortcut
1:03:05
that you have installed and then you type in like whatever trigger phrase you want to use and then you just like you
1:03:10
know repeat it a few times to have your phone trained on it And then just like that it's like you have your own you
1:03:16
know hey voice assistant command on your phone that can do basically whatever you want because shortcuts are an incredibly
1:03:22
powerful feature Now where it connects to Siri is that um if you want to for
1:03:28
example use chat GPT instead of Siri or you want to have you know uh Google
1:03:35
assistant you want you just want to say okay Google instead of hey Siri or whatever like that you can create a
1:03:41
shortcut that just launches chat GBT as an action and turns on voice mode and
1:03:47
you can create your own custom shortcut for it So if you want to just talk to chatbt as if it's your phone's voice assistant you can just create a vocal
1:03:52
shortcut that launches that and uses whatever custom trigger phrase you want How about that that's pretty cool
1:03:59
man I might actually try this Mhm And there's obviously uh a a video that
1:04:05
Griffin's made and and an article called Mac if you want to actually get all the information and walk through all this
1:04:11
and set it up for yourself It's it's an accessibility feature but so like so
1:04:16
many accessibility features it just makes the iPhone way more useful and allows you to do cool things that you
1:04:22
might uh find useful even if you don't need to use it as an accessibility feature So notes what's that you use
1:04:29
this for anything Griffin i do So this is an incredibly niche I have a um
1:04:36
That's jockeying When I make when I make coffee cups when I or when I make a cup of coffee right
1:04:44
I when I drink coffee I have a selection of eight identical coffee mugs in my
1:04:50
cabinet And if I always picked like just the first coffee cup that I saw every
1:04:56
time I mean that one last coffee cup would be used like way more times than every out of every other coffee cup
1:05:02
Exactly I make coffee like once a week and or thereabouts Uh so it's not like
1:05:08
I'm there's going to be like a week where I go through all eight coffee cups before I wash them all and put them back in the cabinet So what I really want to
1:05:15
do is I just want to pick a random number one through eight and just have my phone pick a random number and then I
1:05:21
just pick a coffee cup at random so that they're all going to wear evenly over time Uh so what I did is I made a uh a
1:05:29
vocal shortcut that uh picks a random number 1 through eight And so I just shout out to my phone "Hey what coffee
1:05:35
cup should I use?" And then it tells me which number I should get Louis he might be a serial killer Are
1:05:41
you listening Louis i heard it And it This is the kind of eccentric behavior they talk about on the news after they
1:05:47
discover someone was a serial killer He has the same shirt that he wears He has a whole closet the same shirt He has a
1:05:54
whole selection of the same mugs He uses a Siri shortcut to decide which of the exact same mug he's going to use How
1:06:00
many times do you turn the doororknob before you open the door that's what I want to know
1:06:07
Oh look I mean do you not think about this like if you if you always do your dishes just by like picking the top dish
1:06:12
the dishes on the top are always going to be worn down like much more than the other dishes So for me that's actually a
1:06:19
benefit because I like to have my cake and eat it too So like I buy something and then I just don't use it cuz I like to know that it's new and sitting there
1:06:25
So like for me I would use the exact same plate every single time knowing that I have eight replacements just waiting in the wings that are brand new
1:06:33
Naturally I have another identical set of dishes ready to replace my current set of dishes I thought you were the dishes that are currently in my cabinet
1:06:39
Like you know I when I when I wash dishes I put them at the bottom of the stack rather than at the top so they
1:06:45
cycle through Oh my god that makes sense I can't fault you for Funny thing is he said naturally he has a a backup set of
1:06:52
ex eight identical coffee mugs Oh my god See I have a huge collection of mugs and
1:06:58
I do have duplicates of some of my mugs but it's only because I love those mugs so much that if they ever break or they
1:07:05
chip or whatever I have a backup I have a backup version So but I don't use them
1:07:10
They're not in the rotation They just sit there which sometimes I feel bad about I feel like it's frivolous to have
1:07:16
three of the same mug But now I feel better because Griffin's got eight and he uses them all you know which really
1:07:22
makes no sense as one guy living in a house by himself Like those mugs are going to last you for like literally the rest of your life You'll have that one
1:07:28
mug You'll never need to buy another Okay Oh dear that was very revealing Um
1:07:34
let's see here Should we uh just mention real quick let me just Well is this you
1:07:39
is this you loose i'm not going to steal your thunder Go ahead Just mention it real quick Let's move on So much thunder Uh Instagram may finally release a
1:07:46
native iPad app There you go And the world will stop turning I actually would
1:07:52
potentially use an iPad app an Instagram iPad app I hate that they don't have one I don't use Instagram a lot because all
1:07:59
Instagram is is Tik Tok videos from four weeks ago I don't use Instagram and I don't have
1:08:04
an iPad So man I love my iPad my my um offensively
1:08:13
overpowered iPad that will never even probably break 5% of CPU usage for what
1:08:19
I use it for which you know is the story of every iPad Is there any app is there any app that exists that actually takes
1:08:26
full advantage of the horsepower of your iPad i truly wonder that Is there a single one i don't know that there is I
1:08:32
haven't heard of one Let me know chat Have I missed something yeah they just keep adding in
1:08:37
unbelievable horsepower but you know the iPad just has no way to actually utilize
1:08:43
that horsepower And yet I bet like I bet Logic Pro and and those things Yeah Final Cut Pro Final Cut Pro I bet those
1:08:49
maybe Final Cut Pro maybe But even Final Cut Pro man you'd have to have like some
1:08:56
serious you know highfidelity videos on there 4K multiple 4K videos on the same
1:09:02
timeline effects you know 8K videos But the thing is is like if you have all
1:09:08
that you're not going to be using an iPad So I I still wonder if there's
1:09:13
anything out there Well I imported like one of my vid when I had the iPad I imported one of my video timelines into
1:09:19
Final Cut Pro on the iPad and I mean it it worked perfectly fine for about 20 seconds until it crashed Really okay But
1:09:26
it but those 20 seconds were perfectly performant I felt like I was using the full M3 Maybe you were We've got Betty
1:09:32
Reyes in the chat I used to run Blue Beam on my M2 and it was horribly laggy
1:09:38
Wow I don't even know what Blue Beam is But I do remember that Betty Reyes seems to do something extremely technical cuz
1:09:44
she's mentioned some of the other stuff that she's done that she does and I'm like "Wow that actually does seem like it would push whatever machine you have
1:09:50
You might be the only one." Oh now she says "But I think it's a bad app." Okay maybe it's just that Maybe it's a poorly
1:09:56
optimized app It's like I just opened it and it crashed Okay Um I think that's
1:10:01
all the stories we got right is there anyone even still here i mean I marvel at the fact that our concurrent viewers
1:10:07
have stayed the same for this entire episode Betty Riaz is saying SketchUp and Morfolio I've never even heard of
1:10:14
those Architects seem like the ideal market for iPads I actually think you might be right about
1:10:19
that Okay Well I think we've got one voicemail message I'll remind you all if
1:10:24
you want to leave us a voicemail message We'll probably play on the show as long as as it's not um horribly offensive If
1:10:31
you want one of those to be played you can send them to Louis He enjoys those But you can go to
1:10:37
speakpipe.comthecult Wait is it speakpipe.comcast or the cult let me look There will be a link in the top of
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the show notes Oh there you go You can also send us a umcast There's no the speakpipe.com
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Speakpipe.comcast There will be a link in the show notes if you want to do that super easy to record a message Like you
1:10:55
can just do it right there on your phone You don't have to install an app or anything crazy Um here we go This one
1:11:00
comes from I would say one of our biggest super fans He sends in at least
1:11:06
20 to 30 messages a day So I just selected one And here it is This is Ben from Spokane which is you know right
1:11:12
across the state from me I love Spokane Here we go
1:11:22
See I thought I dialed that part out That's what I was telling you guys I had to I had to edit out the uh the weird
1:11:28
connection noises but tell if that was a a lavalier mic or somebody dropping in a Alcateler
1:11:35
Yeah maybe he decided to have an Alcasensor before the So sorry about that I thought I edited this part out I
1:11:40
must up uploaded the wrong file but this is this will still have what we need Hello this is Ben the Apple loyalist
1:11:47
calling in I like that And I just want to say I am sorry about last week
1:11:55
However you guys did a great job on the show and I'm very excited about the iOS
1:12:02
redesign that is coming up in iOS 19 Oh me too And keep up the great work
1:12:10
Thank you What a guy That's Ben And uh
1:12:15
we always appreciate your encouragement Ben Normally we just get people telling us how bad the show is how we need to do
1:12:22
all these things differently So it's great to hear that you're enjoying it and we appreciate you tuning in And
1:12:29
uh I really like the cut of your jib How about that Louis i love that turn of phrase You know what
1:12:35
I don't love what's that the fact that pizzazz is misspelled on our speak page
1:12:42
Did I put pizzazz is misspelled oh did I put in too many Z's not enough We got a Z shortage What is there a tariff on Z's
1:12:49
hey look Z's are hard to come by these days Louis You think they just give out the Z's do you know how much a single Z
1:12:55
costs let alone four The most expensive tile and scrabble aren't they that's right Yeah Before you criticize do a
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little bit of research Okay All right Look it's only going to go up That's right And they're only going up from here Just wait until you're begging for
1:13:08
Z's and then see who you come begging from Yes Oh I know where to find the Z's I barely have enough for that word So
1:13:15
don't ask me I've got none to give you All right let's go ahead and wrap it up there That's all the cults we have for
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you guys this week But if you want the Z's to continue you can come hang out in the cult club Kind of sleepy around
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Adam Brousard Oh how much do we have to earn to get Buster to visit i don't know man
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I'm not sure we can afford him anymore Alex Heath might be available
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