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This week: Tim Cook’s plan to save you from tariffs on your next Apple purchase! Plus: The big upgrade the iPhone 17 Pro is sadly skipping, a weird new Apple website, major changes coming to the App Store — and more of your Speakpipe voicemails!
Chapters:
0:00 Preshow
1:54 Intro
9:31 Squarespace
11:32 Manufacturing US iPhones in India
19:33 iPhone 17 Pro displays
22:24 Apple Snapshots
27:25 Apple quarterly earnings
29:38 Factor Meals
32:39 New App Store rules
41:18 Your Speakpipe voicemails
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yawn of the Dead i can't tell if we're alive because
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we're missing that's the title of your biography [Laughter]
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although it's probably for the charm a memoir it's probably already copyrighted by a by a Swedish
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guy i can't tell if we're alive how can we tell oh great that's how we know it's
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like the nerves they can sense it and we're live how was that could you
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hear that one Louis here without the headphones that's what That's what I'm talking about we got Red
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Zan we got Level Remix we got Ulisses we got I cave Dave we got the faux MacBooks
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is here yeah we took a little bit of extra time just to perfect things you know we're perfectionists over here at
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the We take a bit of extra time just to get to the bare level that we are typically at
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oh that's right my dude I don't know what updating this audio driver has done to my computer but
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now I can't play the live broadcast anymore because audio render error please
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restart your computer so I can see the chat but I can't actually see the stream i have no idea oh my gosh what a
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disaster can you guys see the live stream is it working don't know well we
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have people commenting so it must be let us know chat okay the boom woke up the whole house that's what I like to hear
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and that's what I'm here for so that must mean that we're live okay fantastic well my friends
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uh I think we're ready to roll oh no we're not i gotta set up the browser you
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guys gonna I know you all like to see the sausage let's see here what what don't pretend like you don't
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know what I'm talking about Louis um let's see here did that fix it nope
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that's what I'm seeing there you go if you're wondering what uh I'm seeing behind the
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scenes that's it freaking That's awesome right there in YouTube huh uh uh uh uh
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uh uh great no I didn't do it either
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what a disaster where the heck oh see it doesn't like when I do that
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no any Apple Card
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news oh yeah tons of Apple Card news uh
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let me see if this fixes it obs doesn't like when I move tabs
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so let's try this again let's see if this fixes it got 30
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minutes now it's It's totally fard so excited about the earnings call i just can't
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wait to You know what i am actually excited because I'm hoping that it makes my uh Oops my stock skyrocket how are we
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going to say this is the best 30 plus minute Apple conversation we can't even hit 30 minutes oh you guys can you guys
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can go the distance all right hold on a second let's let's try this sorry my my OBS is completely freaking out now it
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will not let me switch to the right um there we go obs you have you seen a
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doctor about that i've seen several several specialists none can help me they told me to apply the cream twice
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daily it's not helping lewis did you get that stuff that Jack Black uses it's too
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powerful for me all right I think we're ready to roll
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let's I could I could do another boom if you want but I don't know if people's eardrums can handle it so we'll just go
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ahead and queue up mrs d how about a tweet oh you want some tweet action all right you insist if it's If it's not too
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much oh you do want the extra boom there you go all right let me queue
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up Mr d mr d oh Mr d oh my dear i also like the
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boom the boom boom with Elani
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there's no shortage of innuendo in Mrs d's world mrs d no one wants to hear about that if you don't mind let's go
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ahead and get the music queued up let's not drive away any more of our listeners uh and we'll get this thing rolling
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in three two hello and welcome to the whole cast
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30 plus minute album conversation you're going to hear all week long i'm your host Liz join me today his delicious
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factor meals give him the energy he needs for the parkour tactics often required when hunting down escape cult
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riders in the streets and stairwells of San Francisco's downtown metroplex try saying that you can't he's the manager
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of cult Wallace is here filled with energy always also with us reports of
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alien sight alien sightings flooded 911 in his rural Ohio community when he decided to go to town in his Vision Pro
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and AirPods Max and police had to respond when he was almost shot by Farmer
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McGee he's right back griff is here got
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to watch out for that Farmer McGee i have some good news and I have some bad news oh man all right the good news is
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that we believe we've fixed the audio buzzing problem that was on the last two weeks of the show it was I don't know
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some issues of like wiring wires that were getting crossed on Louis's end and you should never cross the streams never
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um the bad news is that the cult of Mac Apple financial earnings call live
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streamathon had to be cancelled the archers that I hired came down with
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Kalera and it just wouldn't be an Apple financial earnings call live streamathon without live archery they're going to do
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like the whole like Apple shooting off the head thing and you know because Apple but it it didn't work out u stay
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tuned in another three months well I am glad to hear that we dialed we think that we dialed out that buzzing issue so
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thank you to the hundreds of people who contacted us um letting us know that that was an issue it happened on two episodes too so we were like we got to
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figure this out and I've had something similar like this happen before and I think wasn't it just that you had like
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some kind of power source or something laying on a wire somewhere Lewis or
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something along those lines yeah I think that I moved this uh you know this USBC hub slightly
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closer to the VO caster okay and the the electromagnetic disruption was just
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causing a buzzing noise it's crazy how that kind of thing could happen it's happened to me before what's weird is I couldn't hear it at all in my head weird
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so I just made it into the recording i also I could also only barely hear it in Logic after it had been pointed out to
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me it seemed to be much louder after we uploaded it to Buzzrout which distributes our podcasts and does some
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processing on the audio so whatever does it really must have boosted it a little bit static enhancer like just that
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frequency you can pay them to turn it off myself so you think that our
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right now static enhancer so you think that it got you think that our levels
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are being touched in some way by our podcast host they they do some manner of
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audio processing which is why it takes like a few minutes between me pushing the button and the podcast actually
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appearing it does some processing to the audio a little bit okay we got a little just like compression or something well
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it shouldn't be doing anything by the way as long as we're off in the weeds do you guys notice anything unusual about
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my face you see anything i mean you're only two inches tall on my
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screen right now so I can't see a whole lot of detail how about you Louis more of it kind of like around here can you
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see anything do my eyes look extraordinarily sparkly
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to you do you see anything do you have more like lights behind your desk reflecting
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in your eyes no no I have absolutely no idea what's going on it's like this so I got a newer camera and I feel like it's
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adding like eye sparkle like look at all the little like highlights in my eyes
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and I was trying to figure out if it was coming from some kind of light source in my room but I don't think it is it's almost like a beautifification filter
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and I don't know how to turn it off but my eyes have like this unusually and I would say actually quite charming
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sparkle to them well you're asking the wrong guy in the
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first place oh no i know that's not true yeah I know you noticed the ice sparkle
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don't Don't pretend like you don't know what I'm talking about look all right this show's going i
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thought it was going to be like you know for the entire time that you've been doing the podcast you had a giant mustache and you you shaved it off and I
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didn't notice or something like that i wouldn't mind having like the Vincent Price mustache like that really super thin one you know that you shave on the
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top and on the bottom and you just leave that little line right there John Waters style i feel like that'd be pretty cool
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all right maybe it's just on my screen i I definitely see it in OBS and it it must I think going going out to the
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broadcast but I think it's charming i just thought you all might wonder about it hey uh let's see here we got all
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sorts of stuff to talk about today um Oh yeah we'll we'll be talking about Tim Cook's master plan to help you avoid
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paying those insane tariffs that are hitting just about everything that gets
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imported in fact I think that they are hitting everything that gets imported in fact uh I'm I'm I'm seeing prices go up
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on stuff um across the board and I think your iPhone is going to be no different
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but I think TC may have worked out a plan well we have some updates on iPhone 17 uh oh my gosh dude this is one of the
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strangest stories of this year apple soft launches an all-in-one site to follow
10:00
celebrities all right we'll talk about that uh we've got some more talk on tariff turmoil but how it may not be
10:07
affecting Apple um Apple has been blasted by a judge for defying an order
10:13
on App Store payments we'll fill you in on that we're going to wrap up with more of your voicemails i I just I we've been
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getting so many of these we can't even actually get through them all now um but we are going to play as many as we have
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time to play and I just really appreciate everyone who's taken the time to to send these in i hope you all are enjoying this i mean I love it cuz you
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know doing a podcast is operating within a vacuum like we don't really ever get to interact with anyone except unless
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you join us on the live stream which some of you do regularly but we don't start consistently enough to actually
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have it grow join the cult club at support.cultcast.com podcast.com
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you could also do that and that is um a way to get us to um perhaps engage with
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you and put your content on the show which I would love to do more of carlos from the chat I love the voice dude i I do too um Ulisses I see the twinkle okay
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so it is there it is there it's twinkling like like crazy i can't believe that you guys don't see it not does it have like a little fill light or
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something i honest No I don't think it has anything to do with light i think there's like some kind of hidden camera
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setting that adds a twinkle to my eyes i'm serious i think that's what it is you I can't believe you don't see the
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twinkle i cannot Santa Claus of fire i I cannot stop looking at it it's so I see it a little bit i mean I actually switch
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for the live stream i specifically switch my computer to dark mode just to eliminate the glare and reflections in
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my glasses but like I don't know is your computer in light mode no it it it's not really any it's not really and this has
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nothing to do with any actual light source because look how specular these are like they're so they're so sharp and
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they kind of flicker a little bit and when I open my eyes oh my gosh I can't stop looking at it uh well Betty says I
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look like a Disney prince so maybe it's a good thing i take that as a compliment or maybe she meant Jafar hopefully not
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all right uh let's see here before we dive in I do want to say thank you to
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what I don't know what did it but all of a sudden people are interested in the coat cloth again i'm not sure what
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gets the legacy discount all right let's go and dive in before we
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make Lewis any angrier uh Lewis would you care to talk about Tim Cook's master
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plan to help us all avoid paying the extra burden of the tariffs which by the
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way can I just add quickly just quick just quickly there's a camera that I've
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been watching and they have had these discounts available all the time you
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know as an incentive to buy it disappeared this week and they never do this like once the discount is in place
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it never goes away and guess how much the price went up 10% 10% so it's it's going to be felt
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all over um especially if you're if your products are made in China like so many of Apples are there's no way they can't pass that on but TC's got a
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plan yes indeed apple plans to make all US iPhones in India eventually uh
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ongoing tariff war between the United States and China sped up Apple's supply chain migration to India according to a
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Financial Times report says Apple wants to move assembly of all iPhones sold in the United States to India by the end of
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next year pretty amazing uh to achieve this Apple need to double its iPhone
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assembly in the country in about a year typically sells more than 60 million iPhones in the United States every year
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apple's made steady progress in assembling iPhones in India last year it started making the iPhone 16 Pro in the
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country within days of its official launch previously it took you know a few months for them to ramp up to that uh
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while imports from India also face tariffs they are considerably lower at 25% as opposed to like whatever
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145 600 billion whatever it is okay huh i thought it was 10% not 25 china no no
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no with India I who knows I mean I haven't checked in
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the last 10 minutes this is what what it was tariff just got 5% higher who knows
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we need like a tariff ticker on our homepage or something uh I mean you know
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as you were saying uh or as I was saying maybe it's changed because you know US and Indian governments are negotiating a
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trade deal to reduce tariffs this seems to be what's happening like this was all a bunch of bluster to get people talking
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and try to cut individual deals uh Wayne Ma at the information had some
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interesting background on this whole thing though and uh this is from his story increasingly though just getting
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equipment to India is a hassle in many cases Chinese authorities are delaying or blocking shipments of iPhone
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equipment to India without explanation according to multiple people within involved in iPhone it's hard to believe
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the Chinese overlords would do that kind of thing isn't it let's see uh Fox this is
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also from the information foxcon has seen approval times from Chinese authorities for exporting iPhone making
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equipment from its Chinese factories to those in India rise from two weeks to as long as four months wow the slow roll
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and there was there was an anecdote in that post about how um like they they
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did this crazy thing like they set up a a front company in another South Asian country and shipped it there and then
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shipped it to shipped it from China to there and then from there to India wow
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china's freaking out because Apple's Apple's been moving their production out of China trying to diversify for a while
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ever since CO happened yeah yeah because that should as we pointed out a couple weeks ago like it's not just about where
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you manufacture them like everything is in China the expertise the equipment
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everything involved in the production is in China and so like you can't just spin up a factory in the US or in in India
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they already have a factory in India they're just trying to scale it a little more and they're already running into these troubles too it's a geopolitical
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mess well thankfully Foxcon is the company used for manufacturing and they
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have opened up plants all over the place also in the US so if they need to expedite the the transfer of expertise
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or or even bringing those people to other countries to help get these manufacturing lines stood up at least
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they've made it that far because if they hadn't done that we would truly be screwed these tariffs in place I think
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create an incentive to do business outside of China but as you pointed out that's not a quick fix you can't just
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stand up an industry in another country without the expertise and especially when things are changing week by week
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like what company is going to feel confident in investing all this money for something that might be entirely
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undone a month from now yeah like you can't you can't uh this is a long-term
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play that's getting like immediate short-term you know half solutions like
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that's not that's not a situation that instills confidence in leadership yeah yeah and it's incredibly expensive as
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well to to move manufacturing sorry Lewis what one of the other things that uh the information said was the
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equipment Chinese authorities are scrutinizing you know for export uh include high precision lasers that weld
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metal parts to the frames of iPhones air leak test stations that measure how waterproof the devices are and machines
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that can identify grab and move parts from one location to another known as pick and place machines i mean the
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they've got all these specialized things that they've built and and I I saw something like I I wasn't wasn't exactly
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clear to me like who who buys the the the machines who owns the machines is it Apple is it Foxcon probably Foxcon i
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guess it's Foxcon but yeah the whole thing is just insane like if you think about all the ways that they they all
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the the methods that they use to produce these things one of the uh headlines I saw this week
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Tim Cook was talking to somebody's like basically we're waiting for the robotic arms to that will put phones together
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you know because because we don't have in the United States we don't have the enough robotic arms well we don't have
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the human arms attached to the uh human brains with the actual skills required
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to do these things wow we could go on on this um it's wild
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i once the Exodus has started I don't know that it will stop i don't know that it matters
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that this could be reversed in the future because at this point once the Exodus has started they're going to just
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continue on and move this stuff out like they can't move on and then come back i just don't think that's going to happen
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they have to just decide okay we're moving to to other countries and we're going to have to invest in those countries to prop up manufacturing and
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and disperse manufacturing amongst different countries and not have it all be centralized in one place so I don't
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even know if these things would be reversed but I also think that this topic could it has the potential to be
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horrendously boring so we should probably just move on um it is kind of
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interesting but also I there's like a a propensity for it to be incredibly boring robotic arms i if we were just
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talking about robotic arms and if you had like lifted up your arm and we were like "Whoa Louis has got a robotic arm."
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Like we didn't we didn't know like that would be more interesting you know but when it's just about Teros I'm like "No
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we're we're we're definitely losing it." Okay uh let's talk about iPhone 17 for just a moment here Louis as long as
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you're talking you might as well keep talking because we do have an update on iPhone 17
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well as you may know uh Samsung shipped its Galaxy S24 Ultra with new glass made
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by Corning oh I did not know glass armor with an anti-reflective coating on top
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did you know it no i testing supposedly this glass you know cuts down reflections by as much as 75%
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which would be awesome uh and rumors indicated Apple would also equip the iPhone 17 Pros display with similar
22:41
coding however according to a Mac rumors report citing a reliable source uh Apple might
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have changed its mind seems company ramming into problems scaling the display coding process and uh you know
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as we're just talking given the complexities and time required for the coding process and everything else involved in Apple's Apple reportedly
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scrapped its plan this could explain why Android manufacturers other than Samsung have not adopted the anti-reflective
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coating so if not the iPhone 7 Pro Apple may use coding on future iPhones once the coding
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process improves blah blah blah blah i having a a less glary screen would off
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would be awfully nice wouldn't it oh yeah i mean it makes an absolutely
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massive difference on the nano texture MacBook Pro i never would have been I
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have historically never been a fan of matte displays but dude that thing is
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just so good not to say that the iPhone would be that good because it's completely different technology but in
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fact it's a it's a coding and not a texture um so it's completely different um in its premise as well but dude it's
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so good it's so good and and I was so on the fence before I bought it i'm talking about the MacBook Pro and the nanoexture
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you know pixel peeping back and forth at the Apple store but that that that feature is just so good so good you know
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there's just no reflection hardly ever and it just relaxes your eyes and and
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the color doesn't seem like it's affected hardly at all and like the the less reflections you have on the display
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the less bright the display has to be because it doesn't have to overcome the brightness of the reflections on the screen and on an iPhone especially that
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means that you get like much better outdoor battery life the less the less glare you have on the screen because you
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know the display doesn't need to be as bright and it doesn't need to use nearly as much power so this would be fantastic that is very interesting um although the
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MacBook Pro also gets insanely insanely bright like that thing needs to crank it cranks okay there you go we'll see what
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happens time will tell it could have been the tariffs that that scuttled the whole thing let's just blame most things
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on tariffs in fact I think most people will from from this point forward it's like I've noticed that
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you've been late a lot to this meeting ah tariffs you know yeah these tariffs are killing tariffs are getting in the way you know can't avoid them everywhere
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I go tariffs okay oh my gosh i I can't believe that we're
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talking about this story but more than that I can't believe that this is a story um out of everything that's
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happening in your world in our world today and all the things that Apple could be put putting time and effort
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into this is the one that they decided to go with but I'm not going to give any more information i'll just leave it to you Griffin fill us in apple soft
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launches an all-in-one site to follow celebrities with zero fanfare Apple
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launched a new website on Tuesday called Snapshot the new site accessible at snapshot.apple.com presents itself as a
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hub for discovering quote more about the artists actors and athletes you love
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across Apple the platform aggregates content from Apple Music Apple TV Plus and Apple Sports coverage and Apple
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Podcast as well in other areas creating dedicated profile pictures like profile
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pages with links for selected celebrities um so if there's someone you
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love so much you want to see like everything they do you'll have one place you can go to check out everything that
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they're up to in theory uh the snapshot page presents itself as a horizontal
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carousel that uh scrolls automatically incredibly slowly ever so
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slowly i'm looking at it right now but is there no way to back up yeah i don't know if it's different on a phone but
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like I made this thing like full screen on my computer because it's like the biggest horizontal screen I have and
26:28
still it's it's incredibly slow uh there's no way to manually scroll faster the people aren't sorted alphabetically
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or by any logical order whatsoever so you're just watching random names
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there's not very many people right now either i I can see why they're scrolling this slowly because there's like maybe
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10 actual celebrities that they're featuring 36 right it looks like the kind of interface that they would have
26:50
like as like a look at all of these people on our site and then you the thing that you scroll past and then see
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the actual content but there is no other content it's just that like uh and then
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when you click on someone's profile and go back it sends you back to the beginning so you have to wait all over again uh there's no search so this is
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clearly something in progress but it's weird that it was made public this early
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i don't I don't know it's strange it really seems like they just like somebody whacked it together and said "Hey wouldn't it be cool if we did
27:21
something like this and they accidentally pushed it live?" It's like when you could in Apple Music you could
27:27
mark an artist as a favorite and it did absolutely nothing for like two years until they eventually added something
27:33
for it now I will say the actual profile pages here are useful i'm opening up
27:40
Coldplay and it's like "Okay here's their latest release here are all their albums." I saw Billy and I saw oh
27:48
there's a there's a Billy Isish interview or like performance that was on Apple TV and I clicked on that and it
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opened the TV app and then it said "This video is not available in your region."
27:58
So what I could find out like what's happening with Cardi B i didn't know that she was in the newest Smurfs did
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you Louis no jeez that that shirt she's got on is
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almost not safe what about that helmet she's wearing she looks like the third and a helmet maybe it's because of the
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shirt one of my one of my favorite one of my favorite facts about Lady Gaga is that
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she and Elton John became friends while working on Sherlock Gnomes oh the the
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animated movie i had no idea i didn't even know that was a thing although it
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does sound like something that Elton John would be participating in but Lady Gaga I don't know all right there you go
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okay so this is I thought you mix of people in this too that's what I find so bizarre about it lionel Messi Cardi Bold
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Kate Blanchett which is not a band it's just No you too sad just Yeah where's
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you two i mean you would think that if anything was on here you now it's mixing in new people because I'm just seeing
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Post Malone and Brad Pitt for the first time oh this is odd brad Pitt yeah he's on
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here i I saw of course Drake my favorite singer god I hate Drake bad Bunny is
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here he kind of looks like me doesn't he wow you You must have gotten a a refreshed feed that's what I'm saying
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all of a sudden it's showing me new people here's Ellen John we were just talking about him how wow what if it
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like everybody we start talking about they start popping up there now that would be quite strange i mean and then
29:33
our names come up i do have HomePods they might be listening to me mention uh let's see who it seems like it's mostly
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people who have been in Apple TV shows this is totally strange because we've been talking about this segment for way
29:47
too long for for the for the for point number one Steph Curry but also
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after all this time it's finally starting to show me new celebrities it was kind of cycling through the same
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people for the first five minutes of the of this conversation and now all of a sudden it's showing all these new people
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let's see iron Maiden Selena Gomez your favorite oh BTS
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another favorite for for Lewis geez all right let's move on and never talk about this again um let's talk about well
30:17
another point about tariffs but not really maybe indirectly so we got an
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Apple earnings call happening today that Lewis has got to go in what four minutes
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for and he already calls it two but uh go stuff we got to do before but despite
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results in three minutes okay well according to the story despite tariffs Wall Street is putting out the positive
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vibes for Apple's um March quarter uh
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well I guess about the March quarter results that they're about to announce um analysts anticipate a 4% increase in
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revenue uh which you know is not surprising because the tariffs came in
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towards the end of the quarter um I think it's going to be next quarter that
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is going to be the one that will probably be affected um but the earnings call is happening today let me let me
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take a look at the stock price i've been trying to avoid it let's
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see okay we're going up a little bit we definitely hit a low point uh in April
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but we're we're we're climbing now we're back up to 211 so uh well we're down 4%
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today so I mean not that great and they'll probably uh as usual announce
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great results and then the stock price drop yeah yeah but the whole market's down so I'm like I don't know every time
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I have a stock conversation with people like my mom's like complaining about it i'm like just don't look at it it's
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going to be a little rocky for a while but as long as you don't sell you haven't really lost anything you're not going to lose your money when you're in
31:53
Apple or probably any of the other major tech companies like you know Microsoft or Amazon or anything like they'll come
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back but we'll see what's happening with their actual revenue today that's
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happening well we we may touch on it next week um depending on what actually gets announced but Louis is gonna have
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to jet out of here in a sec in fact before you do Lewis I'm glad that you're still here because there's something I want to talk to you about that I know is
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it they have a variety of meals to choose from and the never frozen thing is is really important because when you
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freeze meat it just ruins the texture man like there's nothing like
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should we mention this judge and the potential repercussions for Apple uh it
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looks like they're all going to jail Griffin but maybe not tc's got good lawyers maybe he'll avoid the slammer
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but this was a a major development in this in this case for app store payments
36:18
well in in a certain way I think it was Apple's lawyers that uh sort of got them into this whole tanglement so way back
36:25
in 2021 as part of the Apple versus Epic Games legal court case a court ordered
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Apple to allow developers to link to external payment processors within their apps so if you don't know what that
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means like you know hypothetically you're signing up for Netflix and you want to subscribe to Netflix in the
36:43
Netflix app on your iPhone um before Apple had these arbitrary rules where
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either you use their inapp purchase system or like the app isn't allowed to tell you oh go to the website to sign up
36:54
for Netflix that like there are strict rules on what you are even allowed to know as a user of the app um and this is
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what the judge ruled uh was unfair ideally this would have allowed developers to collect payments from
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their customers without incurring any transaction fees from Apple and it's also worth remembering that Apple
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largely won the Apple versus Epic case this was the one and only area where Apple was declared to be in the wrong i
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think Apple won like the other 22 out of 23 uh I don't know parts of the case um
37:26
however Apple being Apple its solution was ludicrous instead of automatically
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taxing developers 30% directly which is what happens in the app store uh if you wanted to uh have external links in your
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app you had to file for an external link entitlement request and you as a
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developer would have to keep track of your own customer payments and still pay Apple
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27% on all of all for your own transactions uh which is an enormous
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amount of administration and overhead and only actually saving you 3% of your
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earnings and you also had to warn users with a giant scare screen that Apple wrote themselves that you had to
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implement in your app so kind of an obsequious solution here uh and just
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earlier this week Judge Gonzalez wrote quote "Apple despite knowing its obligations there thwarted the
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injunction's goals and continued its anti-competitive conduct solely to maintain its revenue stream." Yeah what
38:28
else is new uh the court ruled that effective immediately Apple cannot take any commission or fee on purchases made
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by users outside of the app store uh the ruling also states that Apple cannot place restrictions on the style
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formatting or placement of the external link that's another part of this you there
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the rules were so tight that you couldn't have like a a a button that
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looked like a button if you were to link to an external site or a website it had to be a plain link like just styled as
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text you couldn't have a button shape around it you couldn't have it be a color it just had to be plain text and I
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think it had to link to a static site that never changes there were it was it was a giant complicated mess judge
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Gonzalez also said that uh Apple's vice president of finance Alex Roman quote outright lied during
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his testimony in the Epic Games trial and that Apple adopted the lies and misrepres and misrepresentations to this
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court dang someone's going to the slammer he He actually might go to jail for this crazy yeah it's it's wild um
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Yeah it will be it will be a nice jail for sure i mean and he'll only be there for like two weeks but Yeah yeah yeah
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this is this whole thing is so confusing i don't want to go too go on too long about this because I'm not sure how much people actually care but it sounds like
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this court is essentially saying that if you don't use Apple's payment system you
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can use your own you don't have to pay Apple a big exorbitant fee to do so but then how is Apple extracting the revenue
39:57
from allowing you to use their store like that's the part I'm still confused about it's like okay well clearly Apple
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has to make something from you so how are they able to charge you for putting you in the app store and facilitating
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they charge every developer $100 a year for their developer account that that goes to uh you know staffing the people
40:16
to review your app through app review and developer support and all that okay but that if you're not if you're not
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buying anything through the app store then Apple doesn't need to take any of your money sure but your your your app is available
40:30
in the app store and that's how most people are making their purchases um and it's letting people
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know that you have a product that's available for the iPhone or for the iPad or whatever so if you are able to skirt
40:45
Apple's system to collect revenue I mean the $100 a year is like a pittance i don't even know what they they use that
40:50
money for right but like Apple clearly has to make revenue in some way for their store they've built a store yeah
40:57
they make a lot of a lot of their revenue also comes from advertising like you the $100 gets you listed on the app
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store but getting listed on the app store actually doesn't do a whole lot the a lot of you make Apple makes a lot
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more money by doing ads on the app store and having developers pay for extra placement in search results and stuff
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like that so there there are other ways that Apple make you don't Apple will make money you don't need to worry about that sure yeah i I I I mean I'm not I I
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I don't know i mean I want Apple to make money i don't want it to be exorbitant i think their 30% fees fees are too high i
41:27
also completely abhore that they charge podcasters too so like if you're trying
41:33
to collect money from your listener base which let's you know for most podcasters
41:40
98.98% of people they can barely scrape together any money and for the rest of the people that are making money like
41:46
Apple is you know poking their index finger into your chest and then tapping their palm it's like they want to
41:52
collect 10 10 to 30% of that revenue and I'm like dude come on i mean like out of
41:57
all the people you could be extracting profits from like podcasters are making nothing and now you want a hu like a
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huge chunk of it i don't know i just I I find it to be distasteful i think certain things would be better if Apple
42:09
just made them free um anyway this is neither here nor there um we'll see how this affects the Apple the App Store
42:16
maybe it will mean that app prices drop which would be great which I mean yeah this mean this means that like buying
42:21
things in Patreon they can remove that ridiculous Patreon fee that they they charge people on Patreon this this will
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have sweeping effects like being able to link to a site to sign up and pay instead of going through the app store
42:31
like that'll that'll that'll that'll I mean any company if you suddenly increase their revenue by 30%
42:39
that's gonna that's going to be huge it's going to be huge yeah i I I was buying YouTube Premium through the app
42:46
store and then I realized that I could pay a lot less if I just went to Google and paid them directly and I was like
42:52
"Oh shoot." Like "I can't believe I've been paying this higher price the whole time." And I had no idea and you and you
42:57
know why you didn't know that because YouTube wasn't allowed to tell you yeah it wasn't allowed to tell you yeah exactly and um it doesn't matter because
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now Google has raised their price so much that I'm almost back to where I started but you know that's a completely separate topic all right Lewis do you
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got to go yeah I'm trying i'm working on an image anyway so uh I should just bail all
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right well I was gonna say you can just hang out and listen we're going to do the speak pipe message next what if I start swearing because I
43:22
can't get Pixel Mater to do what I wanted to do well that will just make the segment even better i'm right here to provide you live tech support yeah
43:29
that's right if you got a bounce you can also bounce um let me see if my Griffin Air
43:36
uh Ah yeah it's still kind of working well kind of it'll work even better once
43:41
you leave list all right I'll see you all pasta and yeah all right see you
43:46
later let me see if I could fix your Oh no that fixed it once he left everything was better go figure all right in a lot
43:53
of ways let's go ahead and move on to the last segment this is your listener
43:58
voicemails i love these i I hope you all are enjoying these if if not if you're like I really hate this segment let me
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know i I'd just be curious um let's listen to the first one hey Lewis I have a question for you specifically yeah
44:10
well that might be true i didn't listen to 100% of all these um if you want to leave us a voicemail we're trying to
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play as many of these as we can on the show go to speakpipe.comcult
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speakpipe.comcult super easy to do you can do it right from your phone on Safari record a message and just send it
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to us it will probably take you like you know one or two minutes just keep it short um uh
44:39
some one of the members of uh one of the govs thought it would be pretty funny to read me a book chapter 1 chapter 2
44:46
chapter 3 they're all like a minute and a half each um we're definitely not going to play those try to keep it 30 to
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60 seconds try to keep it upbeat like I I mean if you want to criticize us that
44:57
might be fine as long as like it's like light-hearted but I don't know that we want to get into like any serious conversations over here about um
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anything that's going to drag down the whole show i want to at least keep it you know uplifting um and we'll just
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leave a one-star review on iTunes that's right yeah that's right you can find us at the talk show on iTunes there you go
45:20
um yeah i mean criticisms obviously are fine but like we're trying to keep the show interesting so try not to keep it
45:26
too too hardcore unless it's funny in some way in which case maybe that would would work but um in any case you could
45:32
leave us a voicemail about anything you want i mean literally any topic you want i'm curious to see where this goes
45:37
actually I'd like to field field listener voicemail so if any listeners are watching season two of Doctor Who uh then we you and I can just have a
45:44
conversation about that that Arafon and Lewis will be subjected to listen to yeah that sounds great season two from
45:49
like was that 1967 or something uh well they they reset their numbering system again so there's season two in 1964
45:57
there's season 2 in 2006 and now now there's the new season 2 that's currently going on okay so they reset
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their numbering system for the brand new show okay got it got it got it okay I was going to say who's going to be
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re-watching season two okay it's like 1948 all right let's start
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with this one this one's from Sean that's all I know do I have my Bluetooth
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set up here so I can stream this we're trying a new way today let's see how this goes
46:28
now it's thinking i can't hear that no it's not playing okay I probably just need to restart it hold on a sec let's
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try again hello Colcast i am calling to ask your
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advice on how to start divesting from Apple services
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i was gonna say that could have gone a bad direction all right Apple services got it stop sending them my money every
46:55
month yeah good luck ever since about Valentine's Day my map has been broken
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and it continues to mislabel a large C that's connected to the United States so
47:08
far Apple has not put any effort as far as I can tell into repairing my map so
47:14
my commitment is to no longer buy any new Apple products until it's fixed but
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then I realized I'm still spending about $40 every month on Apple
47:25
services what is the best way to start divesting from these services and what are some good
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replacements like how can I find an alternative news app source that's
47:37
similar how can I find cloud storage that's similar what are the best ways to not pay for
47:43
Apple TV etc so dude well first of all I'm not sure he understood the premise
47:49
of his question he said his what was broken his map i think he meant to say map mac and maybe he just misspoke okay
47:56
okay so there's a problem with his Mac he He's He's mad that Apple's not fixing it and he wants to divest from Apple
48:03
products and services until Apple fixes it well first of all I'll say I commend you for putting your money where your
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mouth is and I also wish you the best of luck this is not an easy thing to do i have tried this with the um the photos
48:17
app and after months and months of research trying to get other
48:23
solutions to work I realized there's a reason people pay for this because it's damn good and there's just nothing else
48:30
like it and Apple so f so so tightly integrates services with their products
48:35
that there is nothing that you can use that is even close without being a huge pain um yeah I I did some research on
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this because with the United Kingdom forcing Apple to uh remove advanced data
48:48
protection in iCloud i actually wrote a pretty long and thoroughly researched list of alternatives the best
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alternatives that I could find um there will be a link to that in the show notes if you're listening to this on the uh
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published version of the podcast Sean but um yeah there's I'll I'll I'll try
49:05
and skim through this like iCloud photos really is the big one like if you if you still have a Mac and it's still
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functional which it sounds like his is not so I don't I don't know how much I can help you wait a second so from the
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chat MacBook Foe is saying he said his map is mislabeling a body of water is he
49:22
talking about Gulf of America okay he didn't say that though and I feel like he would have said that if that was his
49:27
problem so I I I I don't know we'd have to go back and listen to it again but sorry i I I don't know that it's
49:33
actually that important because I mean his question still stands if if he just finds like the the the Tim actions of Tim Cook distasteful I mean that's
49:40
another reason to do that like you know he's irritating a lot of people but um yeah uh on if so if his Mac is still
49:48
functioning then um you can use iCloud backup to just make a local copy of your photos to your Mac and just manually
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sync your phone to it every once in a while and you know do a full export of that to an external hard drive that that
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wouldn't be too painless but again if you want a a cloudbased system um Proton
50:05
Mail is pretty nice for replacing email at least um instead of
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iCloud photos there's a system I came across called Ente E N i I I haven't
50:18
personally tried it myself but they they seem to offer a lot of similar features including end-to-end encryption although
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again if you're splitting up iCloud services and buying you know equivalent replacement services separately you're
50:30
going to spend a lot more money overall because these are separate companies that have to take their profit share rather than just uh Apple but I I'll put
50:38
a link to that that article in the Yeah man i mean obviously there's there's Roku if you want to not use or or if you
50:46
don't want to use like an Apple TV hardware the Apple TV app still lives right that you could use other places although that doesn't really necessarily
50:52
negate what you're what you're trying to accomplish or accomplish what you're trying to accomplish um but again some
50:58
of these services are just so good i mean the news thing I feel like that's pretty easy i don't personally use Apple
51:03
News i I I find it to be clunky and um I I use X for news some people don't like
51:10
X i mean but you could use there's AI apps you can use chat you could use Net Newswire go go go old fashioned like
51:16
subscribe to an RSS feed for your local news which I highly recommend yeah that's another great doing i mean Google
51:22
Google has a news thing that you can use i mean there's lots of news things but that's the thing like none of these things are integrated right it's like
51:27
they're all going to be separate apps they all might cost you more money um and one competitive advantage that Apple
51:34
has but that's neither here nor there i know especially with photos man like
51:39
that is the one that is so ingrained like you really you really have to pay Apple if you want to if you want to have
51:45
your photo sync across devices and you want it to do it automatically without
51:51
you having to have any involvement you got to just fork it over man sometimes you got to just fork it over i I I hate
51:56
that that's true but that definitely is true okay let's move on we got another one this one comes from
52:02
Ash doesn't say where it's from let me go ahead and play it let's see what Ash's got has got to say
52:10
hey guys uh Ash here from the UK um love the show hello
52:17
GV i do miss Lander Kane I have to admit uh I miss him too and his memorial
52:24
service was beautiful lewis was in tears i gave the eulogy yeah and gave the
52:30
eulogy which I thought was an interesting choice you know because you haven't known him that long but it was it was beautiful
52:36
but yeah I just wondering there's a lot of rumors around the
52:41
um iPhone Fold or a future iPhone fold i just wanted to hear your guys kind of
52:47
take on that and um what you think the current state of foldables are anyway
52:53
good job with the podcast love it every week highlight thanks again che you want
53:00
to go first i knew someone who had like a really old Android phone wanted to get
53:06
a new one and they'd placed their order through like AT&T and AT&T being AT&T
53:11
didn't give it to him for like months and eventually they're like "Well you know we have this this Samsung Galaxy Flip in stock you can just have that
53:17
instead and we won't charge you anymore for it." So he's like "Sure I'll take it." And you know he really enjoyed it for about uh three months and then it
53:23
broke yeah so I I'm I feel like Apple has higher
53:28
standards especially around like you know their hardware engineering so I'm as I've said before I'm I'm kind of
53:35
considering the iPhone fold honestly like I I don't feel like I have room in
53:41
my life for an iPad but if my iPhone could just become an iPad anywhere I go that that's kind of that's kind of
53:47
engaging yeah and even if it's only if if it's $2,500 like yes that's a
53:52
irresponsible amount of money to blow on a phone but it'll only be the second most financially irresponsible decision
53:58
I've made so that's true and not even the worst one by far yeah yeah so for you this is like actually an improvement
54:06
yeah so the price is the number one thing for me if it's 2500 bucks that's going to be a no for me dog there's no
54:12
way I'm spending $2,500 for a phone plus tax plus tariffs it's gonna be $5,500 by the time the whole thing is done you
54:18
know I'll say this about the iPhone Fold i am very interested to see what this phone does and like so many other
54:24
devices that are completely irrelevant and complete gimmicks like the 3D televisions remember those what a
54:31
gimmick they were just trying to get something to stick to to sell more TVs didn't I think that's what's going on
54:37
with folding phones outside of the Apple ecosystem like all these like Samsung phones and you know Motorola i doubt
54:44
anyone's buying those i doubt anyone cares it's just a total gimmick to get people to buy stuff but when Apple does
54:49
it the the flip is useless like no one wants a rectangular phone to be thicker
54:55
and square that does nothing like but a phone that flips out into a tablet the the benefits of that are just
55:01
immediately obvious yeah as long as they make it thin enough as long as they make the folding part not have a an unsightly
55:08
ugly seam as long as the the screen isn't plastic like it is in so many of these phones so like that's kind of my
55:13
point like when Apple does it they'll put enough care and design talent into
55:18
it to polish out all the stuff that people don't like i always say no one wants a tablet people want iPads now I
55:26
realize that that's not universally true there are people who buy Amazon tablets and Samsung tablets I get but there is
55:34
no tablet market there is an iPad market and people will buy these other cheaper
55:40
tablets because they don't want to spend the money on an iPad and then they realize they've made a horrible mistake you know six months afterwards i think
55:45
that's going to kind of be the same thing there is no foldables market but Apple will make a market for a foldable
55:51
iPhone if they do it well which we you know presume that they will because that's just the way that they work so
55:57
I'm excited to see what they do but you know that price is going to be a killer it's also worth mentioning like just on a more technical note um although Apple
56:04
has started calling iPad OS iPad OS and separating it from iOS they are still
56:10
literally the same operating system like it is it is one build that is both iOS and iPad OS so a foldable iPhone will
56:17
effectively be an iPad because it'll also be running iPad OS on the inner screen okay that's interesting all right
56:24
let's move on we got one from John with no H let's see what John has to say
56:33
hey guys I made this song for you oh boy here we go this better be the PG version john
56:42
I've got your IP address here
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oh man I actually kind of like that i feel like I'm going to have to turn it up a
57:07
bit and hear that again yeah see John what what's the deal man like could you not figure out how to hold the speaker to the microphone what is going on there
57:13
i can barely hear this send it to us again or email it to me um airphonecast.com
57:20
and maybe we'll feature it in a future episode but that had a absolutely I'll I'll see if I can turn that up in the in
57:25
the edited version but yeah that's that's a pretty swinging song I got to say and I feel like it captured the spirit of Lewis you know it's like
57:31
terrified but yeah it's got like a it's got like a cool 80s vibe which is when
57:37
Lewis was in his prime i think he was like in his like early 60s that year but that was a very good year for him so I
57:43
love it man thank you for that i'm I'm sure you had AI do that and you actually put minimal effort into that but I still appreciate the gesture all right let's
57:50
see here we got one from the self-proclaimed Apple loyalist out of
57:56
Spokane i love that he gave himself a title for the show um let me go ahead and play this one we might have room for
58:02
one or two more dude how come every single one of
58:10
his messages starts with like 10 seconds of static that's a whole story that we
58:15
could do right there hello this is the Apple loyalist calling in you did a
58:20
great job on this week's show oh man thank you and I just want to say I love the Apple uh the old Apple startup sound
58:27
that is classic i love it i do too and I wish Apple would allow us to choose our
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startup sound when we turn our Mac on and that would just be really cool to
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have the Power Mac startup sound as my Mac startup sound when I turn my Mac on
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that's a great feature request actually I bet you there's a way to do that i mean Intel Macs okay at least you could
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use you used to be able to uh change the Apple logo that that that showed up when you when you booted an old Intel Mac but
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you know security and all that stuff they've been locking all that down which is sad yeah but you know what you should
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do there Apple loyalist you should go and file a feature request with Apple and just see what happens i mean they'll
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probably ignore it and no human will actually ever see it but it's worth a shot because that's one of those fun
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little things that maybe they would work in okay let's do one more um this one's a minute long so let's do this one and
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then we'll go ahead and wrap up this is from Paul all right Paul here we go
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hey I thought I would call in now that the floodgates are open on Griffin
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oh boy here we go i love when a message starts off with roasting Griffin kidding kidding um so I started listening to the
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cult in March of 2023 i went back and checked on my podcast player and at that
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time you would introduce segments of the show about Vision Pro and and Air would always say like "Oh nobody cares about
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this nobody's listening to this our numbers are dropping off." And things like that well I just want to say that I am at least one person who not only
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found the show but has continued to listen explicitly because of that Vision Pro content uh and I have some thoughts
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on maybe how Vision Pro could be improved and I might write in or call in about that later but for right now I
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wanted to ask you guys would it make sense for Apple or anyone else to make a
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foldable that when you unfold it two screens come together and they just each screen has a very thin bezel on one side
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and that comes together and makes sort of like a seamless single screen as a result and so you don't need weird foldy
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screens and it avoids a lot of the complexities and trickiness and it feels like that would work but I haven't seen
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a lot of that and I wonder if that's something that Apple or others could do or should do all right thanks for
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answering bye great question microsoft's approach wasn't it with with the the Microsoft Surface Duo they gave up on
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having a single continuous screen and just had like a you know two separate screens on a that that just fold
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together pretty pretty closely yeah i don't know if they ever actually released that product i do know what
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you're talking about they also had the microphone and they released a second version of it the Neo wasn't it uh they they never released the Neo which was
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their Maybe that's what I was thinking ipad laptop sized version but they released the phone version and they released a an updated hardware version
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of it and then they killed it but I got two versions i wouldn't mind that at all in fact I was just thinking as he was
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describing that trying to visualize it they could call it the um like the iPhone click or something and it's kind
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of like the switch right so it's a play on the word switch so there's like two screens that you could like open up and
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then click together with magnets in the middle and then it becomes like one larger screen and all like the icons just go boop and just spread across the
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whole screen and now you have a screen well you're going to have to have you know the crack right in the middle as
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most of us do but I think that that would become invisible and like with the magic they were able to do with like the
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dynamic island they could probably use that area in some kind of like cool visual way and I think that's an
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interesting idea and if it made it flatter i mean a big problem seems to be like the hinge because you can't fold
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the screen very well without there being some kind of like gap because you can't make it completely flat so it introduces
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thickness well if you had a screen that could disconnect from one side and then you could change the orientation and
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close it or open it or have it be like a wide screen i I I like it i think you should You know what I think you should do you should go to Apple's feedback
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site and leave a piece of feedback and you change your display name to Johnny
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IV and just see if anyone goes and and pays attention to it any final thoughts there Griffin
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i feel like um that's kind of like the intermediary product that Apple would
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rather just wait out and skip over like Apple has the ideal Apple is the idealized company that just wants to
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make the perfect thing from the start and so they're just going to wait until it's technologically possible for them
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to make a folding iPhone that's just a single continuous screen but yeah I feel like the um that approach could have
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been better for other companies to do earlier and maybe skip over all of the like negative headlines like if Samsung
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had made a foldable phone like that from the beginning they probably would have been more receptive and sold more of
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them you know I just had a genius idea now that we have like these flexible OLED displays the iPhone scroll it's
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literally like a scroll and you just go you open it up this way like a king about to read his proclamation here you
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hear you i'm going to be reading Reddit for the next 20 minutes think how cool that could be and because it scrolls
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down you just have a single tube to store which you could keep like in your pant leg or maybe attached to your chest
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or something and then you could you could open it up and they have different sizes the iPhone scroll iphone Scroll
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Plus right 16 inches to 20 in i've got an even better idea oh boy you remember those those slap bracelets on the 90s
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that Oh yeah a big scar on the wrist for sure for sure an Apple Watch slap
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bracelet they don't need to make two separate sizes of Apple Watch anymore they just have one and you just like slap it on and then it just wraps around
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and you've got a bigger screen that goes all the way around your wrist oh man the the Apple Watch Slap
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i'm waiting for the slap edition slap edition i'm waiting for the uh marketing department to contact us for our our uh
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our job offers okay look we got more of these but we got to wrap up here if you want to leave us a message
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time all [Music] right oh the
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slapple i like your first one better i'll be honest i think the second one has a nice ring to it but there's also
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something about it i just don't like the [Music] slappel okay well that's true all right
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all hope everyone has a great weekend i'm hurdling towards the endream button
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as we speak cuz I'm going to be walking these sweet muscular buns out the door in 3 minutes poor Lewis is probably
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bored death in that in that Apple earnings call so at
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