Weird new AirPods features + more details on the Vision Air (CultCast #654)

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I pressed the button I pressed the button I pressed the button thought we
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had already gone live 17 seconds earlier now we're just waiting for something to happen can someone check my X account
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and see if the video's live I want can I stream it on X I'm
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streaming it on X you are yeah I'm doing it right now the first time so don't do anything embarrassing Lewis oh Lewis
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come on just the first wait a second wait a second what's going
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on okay got it I think we're live yeah I figured why not let's just go for it you
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know pulling a LK all right we're throwing caution what could go wrong into that wind to
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L I got the bandwidth I got the horsepower I got the cult Commander the
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finest PC ever built by these these very hands right
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here Lis I think kindest PC is like saying yeah I've got the best Toyota
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Celica yeah well at least when I start the stream my cult Commander doesn't
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sound like an Apache try to take off like my Mac used
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to I'm likeing these Seinfeld opening booms what do you think about those
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guys nice change of pace yeah I fig maybe that's the new character who should open the show Seinfeld yeah
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that's definitely I mean I like that idea but I I hear he's litigious and he's definitely got the budget to outow
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my high power of the old team we got Dave W here who knows if he's even still here because he's been here for 20 minutes we've got Betty Reyes we got
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Adam brousard guess what he wants Lewis he wants a very
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enthusiastic now look that's not an endorsement I don't want to hear nothing about it Loose we also got one he's
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gonna have to pay for it yeah well I don't think he's paid for any of them although Hugo last is in here just
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throwing out bills left and right oh my goodness a crisp 50 Mike Al Albuquerque
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says watching from my Vision Pro oh yeah are we in stereoscopic how's that how
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you like that oh man we'll read that we're going to read that very generous Super Chat
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when we start the show and I'm I'm going to pretend like I didn't see it right until right when we started it we got Captain Dr Zack he is here with his
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Steel Toad boots on size 12 so get your Keers ready Dave W says he's still here Biff latet hello from St Louis stay safe
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out there Biff I think we're ready to go although we don't have Lewis is Lewis
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you're slowing down I'm waiting I'm waiting that's what I'm doing waiting patiently for the Tweet okay here it is
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it's coming in hot hope your hands are ready get them ready put him out like this
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lisis please oh please okay there you
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go fantastic there we go go you know I really don't know if we should do
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an episode on what I should do is an episode on my on my YouTube channel about Dr disrespect have that be my
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comeback video that whole situation has just got to be so
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strange oh my goodness I don't know if you guys have been following what's been going on with Dr disrespect but it it it
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definitely has been an interesting Saga it's like Movie Pass man it just keeps Meandering and turning left and right
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and going all sorts of places you didn't expect but I would say I only have a tenuous understanding of who he was so
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oh really okay yeah can't say I'm keeping up I I was a big fan I am a big fan I I met him in
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person I don't believe it I don't believe it Adam brousard I don't believe it
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I think that I think the doc is innocent although catching some heat
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somewhere I was it Twitter or comments or something people are like what I can't believe you defend him I I read all the detail
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someone was saying they can't believe I defended him yeah oh okay I missed that well look
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man I'm a loyal person and what is loyalty if you're going to churn tail
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and and run the moment you have some
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uh some some heat man loyal to the end maybe not to the very end I I didn't pay any super close
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attention to what I just saw a headline well yeah but that's the thing that's what people are reacting to the headlines and I guess my position is you
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just don't really know what happened you know you just don't know we could I I mean to give to give another parallel
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let's talk about Michael Jackson for just a brief second oh dear look I'm not gonna say anything that would get us
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booted off this platform I just don't know what to believe I really don't know what to believe that I hear I hear
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arguments on both sides that are so convincing like he did all these terrible things and you're like oh man
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like some really heinous stuff and then you hear the other side and they're like yeah all those things are just accusations on if them were ever
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approved you know the people had motivations for wanting to come after him I'm talking about Michael Jackson by the way and it's like oh but that's
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actually a good point like people make all sorts of crazy accusations so I just don't know what to believe it's so hard
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to know when there's no court case there's no evidence that I've seen that
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is like absolute you know it's just hard to know and do you do you completely
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abandon someone just because they were accused of something like there's there's a reason that we have a legal
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system that works in such a specific way in that you have to prove things because
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it's eag that it's easy to toss out accusations and people do do it so you just don't
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know oh my goodness hold on Captain doctor Zack Hicks in the chat
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I holy moly we'll have to read that in the chat that is quite an announcement
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that you're making here live on the stream here Captain Dr Z Zack hick all right uh should we go ahead and get
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going I feel like I'm just sitting here doing a monologue um about a complete completely
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off topic topic I actually am curious though let's see am I live on
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on okay it says that I'm streaming on X
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but I don't see any evidence of that I don't see a video yeah what's going on
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on that site over there who's in charge I should have done this on Master Dawn I just got a there' only be two
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people watching but at least to be working yeah I got keep saying that the
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uh you know the podcast is live but okay well this is fascinating yeah but there's no video I mean there's supposed
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to be like a yeah I should get a little alert saying all right well I'm gonna stop the
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stream is that from you or from cult MC no no it's from me
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I well Zach you can see the post but there's supposed to be a live stream of the video going straight to my Twitter
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feed so I don't know why it's not working it's supposed to be working but clearly
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I'll have to look into this later cuz I'm not going to solve it here so I'm going to stop the stream not on YouTube but on X and then we'll get this thing
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moving um let's see here stop that because clearly it's not
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working but I don't know I heard I heard some people or I had some people rather
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that were saying they actually wanted to watch the video on X like they wanted us to start uploading or streaming there so
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I'm like well it's not that much extra work so maybe we should try it out but we'll have to do that later okay should
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we get this thing rolling what a great idea I feel like I'm missing something really obvious and we're going to get started and I'm going to be like oh wait
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we can't actually do the show right now but I guess we'll just have to do it live leis is that the jokes do
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you have the the intro jokes yeah of course those live never know what be the
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thing that's missing actually actually sometimes can't think of anything else sometimes they are missing
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so that's not an outrageous uh guess okay let's queue up Mrs you know who oh
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Mrs D oh Mrs D oh Mrs D did you hear about any of the
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ongoings with Michael Jackson oh I sure did my dear very heinous very heinous
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yeah I bet they were quite heinous I mean things that you have definitely never you know oh better better been
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that of joke actually I was just I was thinking about where that was going I was like this is this is not going to go
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anywhere good yeah Mrs D they were heinous oh you know my dear I like to do some heinous stuff with elania of course
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that's way better Lis I mean that was that was probably a far better Avenue to go down where it could have gone to be
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honest with you Mrs D speaking of heinous uh none of us want to hear about
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your adventures with elcy and you almost just got us boot us booted off of uh YouTube so if you don't mind let's just
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keep it on track here let's keep it on topic and
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we'll get this thing rolling because we have a lot of stories here to do and we'll get this thing rolling as soon as I can get the music turned on in three
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two hello and welcome to coasty best 30 plus spin out the conversation you're going to
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here okay yeah also with us I got to move on Lou
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you took too long also with us tomorrow he'll be cele celebrating the Fourth of July the way he does every year by
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dusting off and wearing the Stars and Stripes thong underwear that he keeps hitting in his [Music]
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room look it's a strange way to celebrate but I'm not a judgy person he's a riter for culac Griffin Jones is
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here good evening uh how are you celebrating Fourth of July F Well I have
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a uh a speedo that I like to wear and then an American flag and I have my wife
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use a high powerered fan to blow air at me and I just sit there holding it up and yelling freedom and shaking my hair
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like this so it just kind of blows around that's what I like for what audience exactly oh well it's just for
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my wife okay yeah and the neighbor and anyone who's near my house the neighbors
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as well and people just driving by on my street I mean basically anyone that's
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within a one or two block radius from my house it's this thing that I do and the the kids think it's funny and they try
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to shoot me with Roman candles you know nice to connect to the neighborhood in that way absolutely it's celebrating our
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P patriotism which I don't think that you can overdo and uh happy 4th of July to
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everyone in the US if you're listening to this it might even be on Fourth of July one of my favorite holidays of the entire year and kind of the kickoff to
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the summer here in Seattle because you're not really guaranteed any nice weather until maybe early to mid July
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here in Seattle it doesn't start in June I'll tell you that much and then mid August it just kind of ends abruptly and
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you're back into winter into the terrible awful winter for the next nine months so I hope you all are celebrating
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and enjoying time with your family and friends and hopefully you get see some fireworks that's a thing about having kids that you don't think about is
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you're pretty much done with doing anything that involves Darkness you know
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being in the being anything that happening at night you just can't do it fireworks going out going to dinners
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like once you have the kids like that stuff just all ends and because they have to go to bed at 6:30 7 7:30 and so
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my wife was asking me if we wanted to go do anything for Fourth of July and I was like what what are we GNA what are we
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going to go do we got to stay here the fireworks don't even start till 10: and so we basically can't go anywhere and
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they do this really cool thing down near where I live they have a uh I forget the
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administration like the national ocean Administration something Noah the
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National Oceanic there's two A's I don't remember what the other yeah there's two A's and
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I there's it's the first day that I don't remember what it is oh the National Oceanic atmosphere
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Administration Association atmospheric atmospheric Atmospheric Administration I think that might be what it is anyway
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they have a base that's nearby and it's it's in this park this really popular
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park down near where I live and right as the fireworks are starting to go up off
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they launch a um oh man what are the name of those helicopters the one with the double blades a shinook isn't that
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isn't that what those things are called the things with the two propellers that are at the front of the back and that
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thing flies up in the air and your your tear your your eyes well up with tears
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at the might of the American Military and then it just drops like this like 50 foot flag and just flies around the
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whole lake and and just does that carrying the flag and it's just a
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beautiful thing to see the National Oceanic and Atmospheric administrators Betty Reyes from the chat says I don't
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know but um I saw the uh the shinuk practicing yesterday and I was I was like uh oh are we under our attack then
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I remembered now that's just what they do for uh for Fourth of July uh anyway I
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have completely lost my place oh we got a lot of stuff to talk about today we've
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got some wacky new features potentially coming to airpods this coming from a
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reliable source we'll tell you what we know we have some more sad disappointments for I keep calling it
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the the uh cheaper Vision Pro Griffin is now changing my words and the notes to
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the vision air so I guess that's what we're calling it now the visionaire I love how when we're putting together these show notes I'll be typing
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something as I'm typing it Griffin's just going behind me changing things on the Fly uh so we're calling it the
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Visionary now first first editing pass you know yeah right no I appreciate that um and and uh we've got some interesting
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news when it comes to open Ai and Apple's involvement in that company we have a really exciting tip on how to
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enable the iPad magic keyboard hidden backlight Griffin was insistent that we
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include this one he thinks it's going to be a winner we'll see I'm not I'm not convinced but we'll see uh oh this is
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morbid Lewis is going to tell us that Apple watch can now detect the leading cause of heart attacks doctors say I
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don't know about that opposite of morbid that is it I guess just keeps you
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alive okay yeah all right I'll allow it uh and then we're going to do where did
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all these stories come from we don't have time for all this the eight weirdest unreleased Apple products Griffin is going to is going to do a
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quick under review for a product that he's looking at and then I'm going to give a quick plug for a product that
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I've been testing it's not a new product but it is new to me and boy oh boy is
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it I'm trying to think of the right way to describe it it is a huge advancement
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in the way that I play video games and I thought it was going to be something minor and then I tried it and I was like
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we look at this m look at this money that's pouring in here well first of all
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we got a $50 Super Chat from Hugo last this guy's given us like and by us I mean Leander
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like $200 a month at this point and we need to get this guy on the show he says
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you guys thought you could stop me from giving you money by doing the show on a Wednesday that is true we were hoping to avoid your money I was like I was like
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let's do it on a Wednesday maybe Hugo won't know but he says I outsmarted you guys here's the money now you guys look
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foolish and me smart he outplayed us again leis I told you this wasn't going
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to work I told you it wasn't going to work Hugo last thank you for that Super Chat also I do want to also mention
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Captain Dr Zack Hicks who's in the chat member of the military I salute you Captain doctor and he says the military
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is moving me to Tokyo next week so this will be my last live watch for a few
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weeks oh my goodness that isow sad but also exciting man hey you know what
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Captain Dr Zack Hicks I have been trying to get a small group of friends and maybe we could do this to go to Tokyo to
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do Disney SE where the last splash mountain on Earth exists and I hear that
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it might even be the best Disneyland on earth now unfortunately I my enthusiasm was a
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little bit diminished when I when I did a uh uh well I watched some YouTube
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videos of some of the rides and I heard that all the rides were in Japanese and I was like ah it would have been perfect
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I thought they did them in English and Japanese but I apparently it's only Japanese which that does make sense but
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they have English on the signage and everything else all throughout the park anyway if we ever make that happen
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you're coming with I don't know how long you're going to be there but I would love to have you participate in that
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activity um thank you for the money also for those of you who are listening you may not have joined Live Captain Dr Z uh
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zix cap I should I should have actually called you that that is a lot easier to say captain Dr Hicks has been our Mo our
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most ruthless moderator here in the chat he wears Steel Toad size 12 boots and he
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is not shy about inserting said boot into the keyers of any who misbehave on the stream which is why I think our
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streams always go off without a hitch no one misbehaves ever because they don't want to size 12 inserted into their key
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so um happy trails to you Zack I hope that it's a good move for you and I'm
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actually kind of envious I would love to go to Tokyo for a while and get to just hang out I don't know how long you're
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going for but I wouldn't want to go forever but for like six months to a year that actually sounds like a cool
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deployment okay sorry I feel like there's so much Preamble I'm just sitting here talking and we haven't even done the show yet should we go ahead and
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Dive Right In oh of course and it's me classic move back to me but
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this time about some apple Hardware that you may be interested in so the story
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future airpods could use IR cameras for inair gesture control IR cameras in your
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ears what will the Geniuses at Apple think of next that's directly from a commercial did anyone get that reference
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maybe not let's see here Apple could equip a future airpods variant with camera modules the earbuds May
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incorporate an IR camera like the one apple uses for iPhone's face ID wait a second they haven't even put this in the
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MacBook Pro we're going to get this in the airpods I don't I don't know I mean but this is Ming quo uh this could help
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the airpods pro to better integrate with the Vision Pro and improve spatial Computing or the spatial Computing
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experience uh in a medium post TF International analyst mini quo says
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Apple will Mass produce airpods with ir camera modules in 2026 dude I kind of
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feel like Ming quo has been getting kind of zany in some of his predictions and some of them haven't panned out recently
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and now I just feel like he's trying to troll us like this almost feels like an April 1st medium
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post I wonder if he got his months wrong and posted this on July 1st instead quot
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says when a user is watching a video with the Vision Pro and wearing the new airpods if users turn their hair to look
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turn their head to look in a specific Direction The Sound Source in that direction can be emphasized to enhance
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the spatial audio Computing experience uh interestingly The Vision
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Pro already does this so what exactly po means when he says this is unclear okay cool the airpods could use
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IR the IR camera for inair gesture control by detecting changes in the environment this would have benefits for
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all products like the iPhone uh that don't have any means of tracking hand gestures over the years we
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had heard R rumors that Apple's working on airpods with health sensors I think I believe that more they could pack a
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temperature sensor to monitor your body temperature while quo did not mention it Apple might use the IR camera to track
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temperature changes what do you think leis is this happening are we getting
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cameras in the ear holes ear cams I mean this is the first time we've heard of this right I mean it is not the first
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time we've heard of it um gesture controls I mean I guess maybe
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that's okay maybe like if you can go like this and turn the volume up or down maybe that's great I
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mean seems hard to believe they fit a little camera in those tiny little uh
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earbuds I mean I wouldn't you rather take like an extra hour or two of battery life yeah I could think of so many
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things I'd rather take than a camera in my ear and it's also going to make for some awkward FaceTime call experiences
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when you accidentally activate the camera inside your ear and everyone has to see that uh you haven't been using
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Q-tips as of as you should unlike me who uses them at least two or three times a week
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Le well I'm glad to hear that uh thanks for the sparkling ear H update I think
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it's important that people pay attention to the ear hygiene you know like when you when you stand next to someone and you all of a sudden you catch a glimpse
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of the inside of their ear and you just see all that wax in there and you're like H who do you hang out with
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swine clean your ears anyway I can't believe you use Q-tips and not a cult cloth just wad it up and
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swirl it in you know I haven't ever thought to try that but they're so thick
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and luxurious I feel like that would be hard to actually get into your ear hole because might be harder to get out what
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if it just latched on and you couldn't get it out that was it it just got stuck in there which you know we do not
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recommend so if you try that try that at your own risk although you would have the cleanest uh ear canals in your ZIP
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code I know that much for sure yeah I don't know man I think think
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that this is a wacky one putting a camera they haven't even added a FaceTime camera to the MacBook Pro and I
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remember that German was saying one of the reasons they haven't done that is because they can't fit it into the lid
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of the MacBook Pro and yet they're going to fit it into the airpods well it's because the MacBook
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Pro it is so thin it's like a a fraction of the the the thickness of you know the
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iPad Pro or the iPhone or any of the other devices with face Ed like that you know the the MacBook Pro Le is like you
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know what 2 millimeters thick and the uh the face ID thing if you like look at iFix it's tear down it's almost the
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entire thickness of the iPhone that that it is oh really it takes up the entire oh I didn't realize that so yeah how are
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they going to fit something that thick into an airpod which is already so small and packed full of technology I just
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think that this prediction is totally I mean kind of to be honest I
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think the the one that fits in the airpod wouldn't have to be as precise as the the face ID sensor like the face ID sensor has to
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get like a detailed 3D map of your face whereas it sounds like this wouldn't need to be as advanced of a sensor so it
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could probably get away with making it smaller but it still raises the question like what if you have long hair you know and it covers up your ears then it
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wouldn't work you know like the gesture control on the Vision Pro works pretty well but still sometimes I I catch
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myself like holding my hand out like behind my head and I'm like why won't it tap and it's like all right it has to look at my hand for it to work uh you
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know and that would just introduce a lot of variables like sticking it an earbuds like you know there are the some some
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people who just like put the earbuds in their ears upside down you know yeah you ever see videos of people doing that
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like I think Rudy Giuliani was like airpods are like pointing straight up like Shrek you know some people just
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can't be helped I guess I love that picture yeah go and this thing's talking about it using it
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to help with the spatial audio which you know they already do through with you know what head motion sensors right I
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mean I is that already has that so I I don't know what quo means when he when
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he says that in the article well so do airpods right I mean airpods Pro have those motion sensors so I don't who
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knows who knows very odd very odd rumor very seems like a very limited kind of a use case for things that you might need
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but yeah there's many other features I could think of that I think Apple would
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probably pursue before this but who knows we'll wait and see what happens I mean he has a pretty accurate record but
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this is definitely one of the wackier ones that I've seen from him and I don't really know I mean look I I hate to
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sound like such a pessimist I just don't really know why people would want this so and to and to have such a specific
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use case that you could do gestures and but maybe there's something that apple
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is planning you know five years from now and this is a feature that they need to get to that point so that could be it
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speaking of Vision Pro I guess not Vision Pro the vision not pro the vision
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air we have some more interesting I don't know what to call these leaks but information about how
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Apple might be achieving the cost savings that they're going after with the vision air to make it
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cheaper and I I don't know I don't know Griffin I don't know how I feel about this or about any of this stuff yeah so
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um well one of the stories that that we have here is that Apple reportedly bring
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Apple intelligence to The Vision Pro uh the I the AI features won't will not
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arrive alongside iOS 18 iPad OS 18 and Mac OS sequa but will eventually come to
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the uh Apple headset Mark Gman says apple is quote actively working on
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bringing Apple intelligence div division Pro which uses an M2 and 16 gigs of memory so it you know meets Apple's
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minimum specs for it uh but Mark says that quote the bigger challenge will be getting the
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user interface design team to make it all look right in the mixed reality environment Apple might wait until the
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release of vision OS 3 next year to bring Apple intelligence to the headset like some people were speculating
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whether Apple intelligence could run on division Pro because although it has an M2 inside division Pro already makes
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like heavy use of its neural engine like the neural engine on your iPhone isn't doing very much in most interactions you
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know it's it's there when you're taking pictures and stuff like that but it's mostly sitting idle whereas on the Vision Pro it's constantly using that
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neural engine to like you know track your hands and olude them and clip them out when you hold your hand in front of
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a window stuff like that like the neural engine is much more active on the Vision Pro some people were wondering whether
30:09
they would have the bandwidth left over to run Apple intelligence and as we saw like vision os2 is kind of a smaller
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update and we also saw that like apple is like so in the swing of rushing Apple
30:22
intelligence out the door that you know it's really only coming to iOS iPad OS which are basically the same in Mac OS
30:28
you know it's not there's still no word on anything else so um yeah we'll just have to wait a little longer for that which I'm glad because i' would be kind
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of irritated if my $4,000 headset wouldn't be able to run their headlining
30:41
new feature when it costs like twice as much as my Mac and my iPhone anyways um more
30:49
news on the cheaper Vision Pro for uh the many orders of magnitude of people in our audience who can afford to drop
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such money on that type of device the rumor cheaper version of the headset will apparently
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include a small a bigger sorry a bigger lower resolution display in order to get
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its a lower price The Vision Pro that's currently for sale uses
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Sony's OLED o panels featuring a 1.42 in screen with a pixel delity of nearly
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3,400 PPI while employing a white OLED display with a color filter technology
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it's very sophisticated it's got to be the most expensive component inside the headset uh Korean website has apparently
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detected a shift in apple Supply Chain management for OLED on Silicon panels so
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that's what that acronym stands for a key component in the headset currently Sony provides these high resolution micro displays but its limited
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production capacity of only 900,000 panels per year and lack of expansion plans have prompted Apple to seek out
31:56
Alternatives Apple has apparently used it Apple has apparently issued a request for uh sorry Apple has apparently issued
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a request for information to Samsung display and LG display to evaluate their capabilities in producing larger panels
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ranging from 2.0 to 2.1 in with a display density of around
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1,700 pixels per inch so that that's much lower density it'll probably be
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much more affordable for them to to manufacture and that could be a big reason why it's rumored to come in at
32:26
$1,500 instead of$ 3500 we were this is sort of like an ongoing story like it's it's kind of weird that
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a product so far in advance has had you know top stories that we talked about on
32:39
the show three weeks in a row but it's given me time to to think about these rumors and I I think last week we were
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wondering well if Apple can release a cheaper version of this this headset
32:51
with largely the same specs and the capabilities of the existing expensive version what's going to happen to the
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Vision Pro after the vision air and I think I have a new Theory okay n my
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thought is that it's going to follow the homepod sequence they come out with the
33:09
homepod it's expensive nobody aside from Aon buys it then they come out with the homepod mini and then they temporarily
33:17
take the full siiz homepod off the market and then later they come out with the homod to and I think that's what
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they're going to do with the Vision Pro like by the time of like late next year they'll they'll come out with a cheaper
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version of the headset it'll probably have the same specs because by late next year the M2 is going to be an ancient
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chipset relatively speaking so like the the there will be no reason for the fullsize Vision Pro to exist anymore it
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if the cheaper version is can offer the same experience for a lower price I bet they'll probably just like let their
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supply of the Vision Pro run out after the vision air and then another year after that they'll come out with the
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upgraded Vision Pro 2 that'll actually supersede the vision air specs what do
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you two think I think that's an interesting Theory and I mean the Vision Pro I think is having the same problem
34:05
is the homepod in that I just don't think it's selling very well although I think that Apple expected The Vision Pro
34:10
to not sell very well and they did not expect that with the homepod or maybe they did but we have heard that Apple
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released the Vision Pro knowing that they weren't going to get a ton of orders and I think that for the homepod
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they maybe weren't expecting the same thing they thought it was going to be a popular item and so that's why they had to take a break
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and take it off the market and then re-release it later once they figured out how to make the components cheaper
34:33
and that type of thing but um I was just thinking if you make a
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visionaire and you make it lower resolution and it's
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tethered I don't know how much you'd have to shave off the price and you got rid of ghost eyes obviously I don't know
34:51
how much you'd have to shave off the price in order for that to be a compelling thing for people like for me
34:56
if you're going to do that the visionaire has to be or the yeah the visionaire I think 800 bucks like you
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got to bring it way way way down because $1,500 you're losing the the premium
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visual experience you're cutting the the um the PPI in half so the visual uh
35:18
quality is going to be very much diminished it's tethered now to a
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battery pack and to your phone or maybe to your Mac so so now you can't move around freely it's probably going to be
35:30
your phone would be my guess but also attached to a battery pack which is kind of awkward or unless they move the
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battery onto like the back of the headband or something which I think that they might want to do anyway just to kind of give the vision uh Pro or air
35:42
whatever they call it some balance but uh I those are some pretty big changes
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to a product that I would say from a visual uh perspective is already not a
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really a it's not a truly outstanding experience it's good but for me when I
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was wearing it I wasn't as impressed with the visual quality as I was hoping
36:08
I was going to be like it looked good but it it looked it wasn't it didn't look as good as my TV does in my living
36:15
room and for the price it should look better or at least as good especially
36:21
because the the screens are so much smaller so I think that that they they would probably have to bring the price
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way down and I don't even know what a normal person would spend what would the price have to be to
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make vision air ubiquitous and successful I don't know what that price is but I think it's $800 or less like
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for for normal people to start wearing these things all over the place I don't know what do you think Louis I don't think anyone's gonna be
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wearing these things all over the place ever to be quite honest but um yeah I mean $800 it's a lot more of a
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like oh maybe I'll buy this kind of thing and give it a shot as opposed to 3500 which is outrageous I don't know I
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mean how how much surely these panels that they're making are getting better over time
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right like so like every every year they got to get better and cheaper to produce I mean you would expect this thing to
37:15
get better and cheaper to produce over time why is it not why I guess it will I
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don't know it's just such a peculiar product in the first place like the $3,500 prize
37:28
tag the weird eyes on the front the strange idea that it's all about work
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but then know it's about movies I mean I I don't know man I how often do you
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use yours now Griffin oh easily yeah pretty regular like you know four days a
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week about mostly for what yeah I was question it's it's really it's actually
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really good for writing all my most productive writing days are days where I'm writing inside the Vision Pro I I
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just find it such like much more easy to focus and I I really have no clue why but it's it's much better for that you
38:05
ever see a horse with blinders on it's kind of like that well interesting you mention that
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I've actually been testing this isn't a what I'm doing for under review this week I still want to spend a little more
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time with it but I've been interest I've been testing a very interesting product that's effectively a uh a top strap that
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you can attach at like after aftermarket top strap that you put on to to the to
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the thing like sort of like the the the bridge that goes around your ears and then it makes it so much more
38:34
comfortable and it lets you use it without a light seal so I'm actually not
38:40
isolated in the in the way that you normally feel like with with the tunnel vision so I I've had a lot of fun with
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that it it definitely makes it much more uh enjoyable to use especially because you can scratch your face without the
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light oh without it there you can like reach out and like scratch my nose or my eye so you actually should use it mostly
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for work rather than for watching movies yeah you know usually I I I spend like
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about an hour of time at my Mac in the morning and then I then I put the headset on and I'm like well I'm already wearing it you know might as well just
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wear it for the rest of the day pretty much you know during lunch watching a show in the evening doing chores once
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I'm in it I want to wear it like all the time but like it's the it's the mild
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annoyance of like taking off my glasses and making sure it's charged and putting it on and getting ready that
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is the barrier to entry and if it didn't have the ghost
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face eyes that would ghost eyes that wouldn't that wouldn't bother you at all right you would never ever notice that I
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I wouldn't notice it and I I don't really use it around anybody else I live alone so no
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and if it was uh heathered to a phone in
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addition to the other brick would that make a huge difference that would but I don't think that's part of this most
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recent rumor I don't think it mentions tethering that that was speculation I think the the week before but um yeah I
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I would definitely be annoyed if the displays got even lower resolution but I think the idea is that if they make the
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displays bigger from 1.4 to 2.1 in then they can keep the same
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resolution and maybe like put the displays further back so that you don't really notice as much and that's that's
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like sort of a a cheat sort of way to use cheaper displays with the same spec
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and still lower the price and would that also uh require
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less computing horsepower then possibly probably not
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though you know what's so weird as is Apple was I think
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Expecting The Vision Pro or certainly hoping the Vision Pro was going to be that next big thing that
40:51
really took them to that next place that they were trying to go and I don't know what that where that next place is it'sa
40:57
very fancy and full of all sorts of expensive finger foods but also for the
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stock I think from a stockholder perspective it's like what's that next big thing right it's like what what is Apple going to do that's going to get
41:08
them to that next big jump and I don't think anyone was expecting it to be Ai
41:17
and I don't know if AI is that next big thing for them but it certainly is the next big thing for their stock price we
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have been watching their stock price go it's been flat for years
41:28
and going nowhere going nowhere slowly and as soon as they announced Apple AI
41:34
their stock spiked through the ceiling and it has been going bonkers ever since
41:41
even better than Nvidia and by the way I apologize if you're wondering why your Nvidia stock has been tanking it's
41:47
because I finally bought in and so from here on out it will probably either be going sideways or possibly slowly down
41:55
down slowly enough that you think it might recover but event it actually won't it's just going to keep going down
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also say that it really took until like the iPhone 4 for the iPhone to like really sell in gigantic like
42:05
game-changing numbers and it's only been five months with division Pro yeah yeah yeah you're right I I I certainly
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haven't written it off I I think that eventually they will get it to a point where it's going to be a really
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compelling product this is definitely a V1 and just like we said when it first came out it's like dude we we could see
42:21
the potential here it's such a magical exp when it works well it is such an un
42:27
beatable experience they just need to make it smaller and lighter and I think and less
42:33
expensive and then it will be something that I think people really want to wear like I would wear that dang thing all the time if it didn't if it wasn't so
42:40
heavy and if it mimicked the same visual Fidelity
42:47
as my eyeballs or just got close you know if it just got closer I would be okay with
42:53
that too cuz the place that it's in now is not a good place in my opinion in in some use cases it it really does dazzle
43:01
and Delight you but in a lot of its use cases you feel like you're wearing
43:06
something on your head that is artificial and for that reason I just didn't love it and then there's the price but feel like if they can you
43:14
notice that what's that feel like you're wearing something on your head it's
43:19
unnatural you you notice that you're wearing something on your head it's it's to front yeah it's too front heavy they
43:25
got to balance that out but but Apple stock man I mean it's just the AI stuff
43:31
is it was so unexpected I I can't believe that you
43:36
know what's funny is even if they had not shifted their their team from
43:42
developing an Apple car and they made an Apple car and released an Apple car I don't know if the Apple car would have
43:48
had this impact on their stock price funny enough no absolutely not all they did was add some features
43:55
to iOS and Mac OS and all the other os's in time and and it made their stock
44:01
price go up like crazy it's unbelievable I just can't believe it and it's up 15% oh no almost 20% this
44:08
year let's see what let's see what Nvidia is now oh my goodness I I put 10 grand in an Nvidia I finally sold my my
44:17
paler which I had forever and was just going nowhere slowly which of course
44:22
paler has been doing nothing but go up ever since I sold it of course uh let's see here in the last
44:29
month yeah maybe you should start an app Earth on stock picks it tells people
44:34
exactly what you buy as soon as you buy it it says sell right it's all it does
44:39
sell it says buy but you know what though the Apple thing has paid off for me big time yes
44:46
my Doge might be down never to recover yes my paler lost me 1,500 bucks
44:53
probably when almost all was said and done yeah my Nvidia will probably go to zero at some point or my Nvidia but but
45:00
my Apple stock man it has just been doing right by me it's unbelievable yeah
45:06
Nvidia I think Nvidia actually will go up eventually but it's definitely down right now it's been down like the last
45:12
two weeks of course right when I buy in uh this is not what I meant to talk about and I have no idea where we're
45:17
going next um anything else to talk about with uh Vision
45:23
Pro I think this uh Finance talk is a good segue next segment especially about
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open AI I know wasn't even why don't you tell us about um open ai's new board
45:33
member yeah it's fantastic right like a after Apple announced its partnership
45:39
with open AI at WWDC 24 a partnership you see after they announced that the
45:45
stock went up and but then everybody's like well you know how's this work you know who's
45:51
getting paid that was the big question and what we always heard is that neither part is getting paid apple is giving uh
45:57
open AI access to the masses right the iPhone which everybody wants and apple isn't
46:03
paying anything well this week we find out that Apple got something really nice in addition to uh being able to say that
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uh iPhone and mac and everything's going to run the the latest the latest buzziest chat gbt stuff apple is going
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to get an observer role on open ai's board as part of this Landmark agreement
46:23
according to you'll never guess who Bloomberg uh reporting from Mark Gman oh good you
46:30
know he's he's uh quoting people you know familiar with situation who of course can't talk about
46:36
it but uh the idea is that Phil Schiller of all people Phil Schiller longtime
46:42
Apple employee Apple fellow at this point uh he's gonna uh sit on the open
46:49
AI board as an observer not as a full-fledged director
46:55
um that's awesome so so they snuck somebody into the boardroom of open AI
47:02
so that's a pretty awesome thing right at now Apple gets insight into what these guys are doing they could
47:10
potentially I don't know influence decisions made by this company that has a bit of a controversial um you know
47:19
controversial they they've they've been involved in some controversy you know some people are very skeptical about
47:25
open AI some people are you know you remember like Elon Musk after uh Apple intelligence was announced Elon Musk is
47:31
like oh I'm going to ban every Apple device if they have apple it's like okay whatever
47:37
um I don't know exactly never been in an executive boardroom but
47:43
uh my understanding he's an observer he's he'll just like be there he will be actually making the decisions or
47:49
anything but you know think about that you've got you've got like an adult in the room from Apple who's who's looking
47:55
at things going oh this is great and you know well maybe maybe we can talk them into not doing this because it's going
48:01
to be bad for us maybe we can maybe we can use these new things in this way
48:06
with apple stuff so it sounds like an awesome deal for Apple to be able to get somebody in there and Phil Schiller seems like a great person for IT uh
48:14
let's see so uh this this is a quote from the thing it says um the the board
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Observer role will put apple on par with Microsoft Corp open ai's biggest backer
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and the main AI technology provider the job allows someone to attend board meetings without being able to vote or
48:30
exercise other director Powers observers however do gain insight into how decisions are made at the company so
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basically what I just said but that's how it's I I I saw some people in on X
48:44
of all places saying so let's see um uh Microsoft dumped you know millions of
48:49
dollars in opena on that they got what okay well you know they Apple doesn't give them anything but they get to say
48:57
oh the iPhone uses chat GPT which I I think this article was saying that
49:02
people are clamoring for it I'm not I'm not 100% sure that your typical iPhone user is clamoring for chat GPT on their
49:08
iPhone but it seems like it's going to be an okay uh addition and implemented
49:14
in a smart and privacy forward way which is what you'd expect from Apple so uh
49:20
seems like apple got a pretty good deal with this partnership with open AI yeah like my reaction to this story is those
49:27
fools at open AI who think they rule the world this is why you don't cut a deal
49:33
with Apple because they'll come in and say how about we pay you absolutely nothing you have to front all the costs
49:40
on all this extra infrastructure as you suddenly you know double your user base as everybody with an iPhone can now
49:46
access your service for free and we have a man on the inside who's going to listen in on all of your decisions and
49:52
we're going to immediately downplay our involvement with you and say that we're also going to replace you with Google
49:58
Gemini at some point in the future they didn't say they're going to replace they said they might offer additional
50:05
Partners so it's kind of like giving you the ability to select your browser and
50:11
use the browser that you like most I think it's still not a bad decision for
50:17
open AI it's like when Bruno Mar is performed at the Super Bowl for free that exposure has an incredible amount
50:23
of value I mean look how much Google is paying Apple to be the default browser
50:28
attention is I think is Google makes money back on that they they pay Apple like20 billion a year supposedly because
50:35
Google makes money on you know every time somebody does a Google search showing them
50:40
ads the open ai's business model is kind of a South Park like question mark step
50:46
two like how they how they expect to get money paid for this really I don't know
50:52
how they make their money currently I I mean but being the facto AI source for AI I think is
51:01
incredibly valuable and I I would say that they are basically like Google at this point where they have an effective
51:06
Monopoly which is the way like all the best and most profit profitable tech companies work is they just become in
51:13
people's mind the thing that you use to provide that specific service like Google is or Facebook is or you know
51:21
name your other dominant Tech platform in any you know um in any Tech space so
51:29
they may not be able to make money from it now but I do think they are monetizing in a lot of ways at least
51:34
with Microsoft I think that they might be but even if they're not yet having the attention and have people use your
51:40
stuff is a great position to be in to start monetizing at some point in some way think about it this brings it to
51:47
every every person who doesn't know what AI is every time that they say ask
51:52
something of their phone that Siri determines is uh un
51:57
answerable with Siri's own amazing uh fantastic skills oh I said it twice in a
52:03
row now it's talking at me um so but every time that you you say
52:09
something like or ask for a question like that that can't be answered on the device or by whatever that thing is I
52:14
can't ever remember the name of it the super secure Apple Cloud pipeline what is it called Apple private Cloud compute
52:21
private Cloud compute it can't be it it pops up a thing on your phone that says would you know it seems like you should
52:26
ask chat GPT about that would you like to ask chat GPT about that that's an that's basically an ad for chat GPT
52:33
every single time somebody has a question that that she who I should not speak her name uh can't answer the
52:39
question how often you think that's going to happen per day uh so that just on a name recognition alone it's
52:46
astonishing right I mean for and that's that's gonna happen to every single person who owns an iPhone because people
52:52
do know to ask her or or it those questions every
52:59
day and they know that they never get an answer and now they're going to think saying hey chat GPT can answer the
53:05
question for you would you like to use chat GPT so even your grandma who has an
53:10
iPhone is going to see chat GPT 10 times a day chat GPT and it's not even some
53:17
gross blinking ad on a web page it's it's a thing built right into your iPhone that says hey I think chat GPT
53:24
can help you with that would you like to use use it I mean think about what that's worth how many people have
53:30
iPhones it's it's like billions is it billions I I I mean
53:35
there's like millions or billions of of active devices right is it like two billion active devices it was the latest
53:42
so what what percentage of that is you know M series Maxs or iPads or you know
53:49
the absolute latest best iPhone I don't know what percentage of that is but it's it's not a small
53:55
number yeah chat GPD chat GPT or open AI start delivering an ad as part
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of the answer that it provides you it's not an ad it every interaction will be
54:07
akin to an ad because you it says I can't answer that question would you like chat GPT to answer it for you now
54:14
now the thing is what what happens after you say yes ask chat GP that's that's
54:20
where it becomes crucial like if if it answers it beautifully they got an ad and you had a great experience and
54:26
you're going to be like wow there's something to this chat GPT I mean if it says we think chat GPT can answer that
54:32
and it you know serves up some kind of hallucination that's obviously wrong at your at first glance then you know their
54:39
ad becomes a negative for them but and I keep calling it an ad it's not an ad but it's it's it's it's better than an ad
54:47
it's it's you're being bombarded day after day after day query after query after query with the name of this
54:52
company yeah I get what you're saying I I I think what I was trying to say is
54:58
along with whatever information is relaying to you it includes an ad I'm not saying for their their you mean like
55:03
a pitch for their their premium service no no no no like let's say hey uh chat
55:11
gbt you know how is orange juice made and it relays some information to you
55:17
and then below that it includes like an ad for like minute M or something you know like maybe it connect it starts
55:24
serving ads just like Google does like you are doing a request and along with
55:29
the results it mixes in ads and shows you IM make me turn it off so there's
55:35
there's I mean well that's I I completely missed the point when you I'm sorry to cut you off um that would be
55:42
really bizarre to me uh because I think that what apple is doing is giving them a way to present this thing in a very
55:49
straightforward and you know professional and apple apple like way I
55:54
mean I I bet you Apple wouldn't let them do that like the Amazon products do that and everybody hates them for it you know
56:01
yeah I'm not saying they should do that I'm just saying that there are ways that they could start to
56:06
monetize providing results to people who are using the service of free just like Google does I would hate to see them do
56:12
that I don't like seeing ads in the operating system I love that Apple doesn't show ads everywhere like one of
56:17
the things I really hated was like you would pay like when you back when people
56:23
had cable back in the olden days and they would show you like all these movies that you could watch and you
56:28
click on them and they be like all you need to do is subscribe to HBO to watch this you're like why did you show this
56:33
to me if I can't even watch it you like those intrusive annoying like I'm going to trick you ads where you think that
56:40
it's not an ad until you click it and then it's trying to get some money from you it's like I hate that stuff too but I just think there's going to be a lot
56:46
of ways since uh open AI is going to be giving so many people information that
56:52
they'll be able to work some kind of small ad in there in some way to keep their platform for free I don't know I
56:57
don't know what they're going to do but I'm sure they're going to figure out one some way to make money maybe they just continue charging companies to use their
57:04
service but in a cordin off way so their their G your G specific GPT only serves
57:11
like you and your company and can't be accessed by anyone else outside of it I have no idea but I know they're going to
57:18
once they have the notoriety and the name recognition they're going to be very difficult to unseat just like
57:23
Google just like Coke just like McDonald's just like any other company
57:29
who started the niche that they now completely own maybe
57:34
not uh officially but unofficially it's like and and Peter teal like the famous
57:39
Tech investor he's like those are the companies that you want to invest in like the companies who have have have an effective Monopoly they're very
57:46
difficult to unseat and even if other companies come along with a better service people don't use them because they want to just use the company that
57:51
they know the one that they trust because it's been there the longest it started the space and those are the
57:58
companies that just continue to do well because people know them and people use them and I think that's proven to be
58:04
true in many ways uh for so many different companies all across the
58:09
ecosystem of businesses that exist anyway where are we I think that topic
58:15
has been sufficiently flogged oh my goodness wa glad we were able to shine some light on that me too
58:21
people were wondering we got them the information that they needed uh let's see here how much stuff do we have left
58:27
we have way too much stuff in here we can't do all this stuff I might have to make an executive decision here should
58:33
we slash either the iPad magic keyboard story or the how long can that take you
58:38
already told people you can't leave them hanging you think that they're on the edge of their seat wondering about that well I can I can always edit it out of
58:44
the beginning I've done that no no no let's just let's just do a flyover Griffin but before you do before you do a flyover let me do a flyover of my own
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keep your forehead nice and shiny there's so many reasons to use the coat cloth and maybe you got a weepy eye
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Louis a weepy eye this could help you with that there's nothing like it but you can't
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you can't brush your hair with the cold cloth I haven't tried you might be able to I doubt it
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would be the best hairstyle that you could test it free if you send me one actually you know what I'd be happy to
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do that Griffin and it probably builds up a nice static charge that you could use to elevate that hair even
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Griffin let's see what you can do with this story so this is a see iPad iPad
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Pro tip I was amazed when the uh the latest iteration of the iPad magic
1:01:51
keyboard came out that a lot of people didn't know that the magic keyboard has a backlight
1:01:56
and it's had a backlight ever since the the original model in 2020 or so um lot
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of people don't know it has one it turns out it actually does it's just that the controls are hidden like on the Mac there's the you know I think it's like
1:02:07
what the F6 key or something like that it's been a long time since I've had a laptop what one of those keys let you turn on the backlight on your computer
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it's not on the iPad you have to go searching for it uh but there's an button in control center you can add
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specifically for the magic keyboard for iPad if you're in um iOS 17 you just go to settings control Center then you tap
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the uh the green plus button right next to uh keyboard brightness and you've got a a control center controler you can uh
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bring Control Center and tap it to toggle it on or off or you can uh tap and hold your finger on the button it
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becomes like a little slider where you can make it brighter or dimmer if you didn't know it had one it turns out it
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does that's what that uh what 350 or 400 bucks gets you so if you didn't know it
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had one before yeah surprised it is an extra fun little new feature and uh we'll link to this in the show notes if
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you guys want to check out the whole story that was good that was good Griffin you didn't dive too deep on that one you got to wet their appetite and
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then leave a little link for them if they want to dive in that's what you did chat GPT couldn't have done it better
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but give it six months and it will all right well let's see here now
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we're powering through okay Lewis there's no way to there's no
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there's no way to segue to this story I'm going to just give it to you to take a in a completely different direction
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hit the brakes hit the e bra we'll spin this thing around and maybe just do a quick
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overview of um how your Apple watch will soon be able to tell you just before you're about to
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die yeah this is uh this is interesting story that uh Leander kind of fished
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this out of a Washington Wast post uh Wall Street Journal story uh talking
1:03:49
about how doctors are recommending people that that recommend that people wear Apple watches they're increasingly
1:03:55
using is a way to monitor People's Health right well one of the little details in this thing is there's this
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Dutch Doctor Who uh says says that it can that the Apple watch unlike you know
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Apple says this is a can't do this right but this Dutch doctor says hey Apple watch can detect a leading cause of
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heart attacks and he is encouraging people to study whether or not this can be used um
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I just give the brief brief background on this right so this is a doctor named I I believe it's a rude Ru D Co poer
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cardiologist from Amsterdam he accidentally discovered that he had a potentially fatal heart blockage that
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caused myocardial esea that's just that's when your heart doesn't get enough oxygen and blood uh he so he
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wrote a paper about his experience and now recommends the Apple watch be studied for its ability to alert wearers about potentially deadly heart blockage
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and the weird thing about this is this guy you know he had a like a history of family you know a family history of
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heart disease and he was on I believe drugs for um or cholesterol yeah but he didn't think
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like oh oh crap I'm having a heart attack he he went to the gym and afterwards he just sat down for some
1:05:04
reason he decided Well I'm going to check my ECG and he did it a couple of times and he and he looks at he notices
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that you know of course he's he's a cardiologist right so he understands this stuff and this is one reason I'm sure that Apple doesn't advertise this
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as a feature right because you have to be like a cardiologist to look at this and say wow look this is weird this this
1:05:23
is showing that I've got a you know major blockage in my in my uh arteries
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and so you know he he had no chest pain no nothing like that
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um he just like by accident almost using his Apple watch discovered he had this
1:05:43
you know potentially deadly thing this causes supposedly like more than a million deaths in uh United States per
1:05:49
year wow right that's according to Cleveland Clinic um so coaster said it works and this
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this this is from his paper the use for detecting myocardial esema is not endorsed by Apple but is documented in
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this case documented it he said before during and after the episode he uh he
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talking about the the doctor he was completely asymptomatic for chest pain shortness of breath Disney is or
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palpitations but the Apple watch noticed this weird thing and you know this weird
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like way that his heart responded after this exercise and uh I know it's pretty
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interesting story um I I love the way that the Apple watch watches all the stuff in the background one of the
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things that I think Leander was talking about or somebody was saying like well maybe you know if if Apple can like
1:06:38
fine-tune an algorithm that could spot that kind of thing right I mean that's that's a problem right like you had this guy noticed it because he's a
1:06:44
cardiologist so I mean it was kind of mindblowing I'm used
1:06:50
to these stories of of people having atrial fibrillation uh spotted by Appa
1:06:55
that causes them to go to the doctor and get checked out this is like a and that's basically the main use case for
1:07:02
the Apple watch right the main way that it that we've seen is saving people's lives but this is uh this is a pretty
1:07:08
interesting one and and it just it it basically it it shows what it's capable
1:07:14
of and what Apple I mean for whatever reason Apple doesn't probably even have the time and and money to go and get
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things sort of FDA approved for all these different sort of off off Lael uses but
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it's it's it's like it's more powerful than than you might know is is what I'm saying it's more powerful than they can say yeah yes yeah so an interesting
1:07:37
story yeah that's kind of cool opinion and if and if you're a cardiologist you can just self- diagnose so that's handy
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all cardologist share all that stuff with doctors you know and doctors can see it and
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uh I don't know I'm a big fan tell you if you're about feel like I should do an ECG right now you are awful sweaty you
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feel okay I get you into of those cook cloths just to dab justment of the
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podcast all right that wasn't nearly as boring as I thought it was goingon to be Louis thank you um all right the eight
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weirdest unreleased Apple products I think we're going to just drop this off in
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the let me see here in the show notes and I think L you just wanted to tell people about this right like this was a
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story that we had on CAC that we thought people might wrote it Griff it he could tell us Griffin want you to tell you so
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of all the things on that list the one that I found the most amazing was this thing called the the Paladin right yeah
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this is article video went last weekend I actually highly encourage people to watch the video because it has even more
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pictures of these uh weird unreleased Apple products in it the the weirdest one is in the 90s Apple was apparently
1:08:49
going to make an all-in-one Mac that had a built-in phone fax machine and scanner
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and it looks exactly as 90s as a product like that sounds it's absolutely wild um
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uh some other favorites on that list are the Apple Jonathan which is kind of like a bookshelf shaped computer that you're
1:09:09
supposed to like expand by adding like new like modules into it uh there's a another image in there of a prototype of
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the iPad from 2002 that looks like you know you know the white polycarbonate
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like iMac or iPod look from that era really cool stuff in
1:09:28
there and that weird Newton with the gigantic beesel bezel I always say bezel
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bezel yeah like like a giant like book-sized Apple Newton too some crazy stuff in there I encourage people to uh
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click the link in the shout notes that'll be in there to watch that video the iPod phone man Apple really does
1:09:44
itself a disservice not maintaining their own museum where there's all these prototypes for all this stuff I think
1:09:51
that people would love that like the Apple Museum in cero it doesn't exist cuz Apple seems like they've never been
1:09:58
overly nostalgic about their history and then also anti anti nostalgic yeah maybe
1:10:04
even and well that's clearly fake that's the uh the iPhone with with a rotary dial
1:10:11
but um it's too bad that they don't actually feel like it would be
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good to do something that showcased all the work that they've done to get us to
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the place where we are now you know uh like if you go to like I'm trying to
1:10:30
think of a museum that um does a really good job with this yeah the Kennedy Space Museum in Florida like you go in
1:10:37
there first of all topnotch top-notch museum I mean the way they reveal the
1:10:43
museum to you when you go through the entrance is like uh very emotional and and makes you
1:10:51
really appreciate how much work and effort went into like the American space program and then you get to walk around
1:10:57
and like see all the prototypes and like the satellites and like all the different space stuff that they use and
1:11:05
apple apple could totally do that I mean they have such a long history and there's probably so many prototypes that
1:11:11
they have gone through and if anyone could create a cool Museum experience like it could be apple Johnny love from
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sure they would charge you probably hundred million do to do that project for you but you know what T TC's got it
1:11:25
T TC's got a $100 million I think that Johnny I would probably love to do a project like that and it would be
1:11:32
something that technology and apple enthusiasts would would would definitely go and see I think just normal people
1:11:38
would probably go see it too and it's really a shame there a lot of like great computer museums out there around the world I'd like to go to some you know
1:11:44
someday I I haven't had the chance to go to a computer Museum but the thing is like even if you feel like you're really well ver in Apple history still check
1:11:51
out this article because this is like alt history these are the these are the products that you've never heard of and they're kind of crazy yeah I agree
1:11:57
there's a bunch of stuff in here that I had never heard of either um I thought you're going to be talking about like the Pippen and all sorts of other stuff
1:12:03
you know it's like yeah I've been there done that I know about the Pippen but
1:12:08
the these are things that I have never even seen before so that actually looks like a cool computer that looks like it
1:12:14
was made by NEX actually right there cool all right well we'll leave a link in the show notes uh let's go ahead and
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wrap it up with an all new one to review Griffin got something new I've got
1:12:26
something new to me and I was recently setting it up and tinkering with it
1:12:32
yesterday and I've had this thing for like maybe a year and I literally never even took it
1:12:37
out of the box and finally I was like okay I got to take this thing out of the box and get it set up and as I was doing it I was like this isn't nearly as
1:12:44
challenging as I thought it was going to be took me like 10 minutes and uh once I got it going I was like wow what a
1:12:51
difference but I digress I'll let you go first Griffin yeah so what I have I was sent
1:12:58
these uh earbuds these are called The Sound pets air4 Pro kind of a odd name
1:13:08
um these are these really answer the question of like what if you want the
1:13:13
advanced features of airpods pro but you don't want to spend $250 so these are I think only $90 which
1:13:21
even undercuts Apple's cheapest version of like regular airpods but but they have a lot of the the same features you
1:13:27
know they don't they don't have the advanced like you know pop up the thing on the screen to connect or stuff like that but they I think these are these
1:13:34
are really good as far as like generic bluetooth earbuds go because they have a lot of the the advanced features like they have the interchangeable like
1:13:41
rubber tips on the buds themselves which is useful for me because one of my ears is actually like one size bigger than
1:13:47
the other ear so they they come up with multiple tips you know I put the smaller one on my left one the larger one on my right one all set right there they have
1:13:54
active noise cancellation which is the big feature um just like the airpods pro they're they're activated just by like
1:14:00
you know clicking the bud in your ear and then you can change it on the fly like that um the the sound design I will
1:14:07
say with like the the sound effects that the earbuds play leave a little bit to be desired because like the the airpods
1:14:14
have like these fun little bloops and bleeps and stuff that they do where like you you hold the button and it's just
1:14:19
like a voice that says pass through ANC on normal mode in like that exact pitch
1:14:26
and tamber it's it's it's interesting you can you can tell you know these are the corners they
1:14:32
had to cut you know you're spending $90 for $250 with the features that's what you get instead you know but I did a
1:14:40
stress test I was like because like the ultimate goal for when I want like active noise cancellation to do is I
1:14:47
want it to be powerful enough so I can listen to podcasts without going deaf
1:14:52
while I mow my lawn and that's a tall to ask of just like tiny little earbuds I
1:14:58
can say I was incredibly impressed with these like I had them at a pretty
1:15:04
regular volume mowing my lawn for you know three hours perfectly fine and the
1:15:11
battery life even with the the even with active noise cancellation on for that long like that that's that's strenuous
1:15:17
on a tiny little battery and it made it through like the the whole whole mowing experience it was it was honestly like
1:15:23
pretty gamechanging in that Y and I I was very impressed with it like the you put them back in the case and like I can
1:15:29
go a week or more without plugging it into charge pretty impressive battery
1:15:34
life um I'll admit it's been a long time since I've had airpod so I guess I don't have much comparison there but like you
1:15:40
know I I honestly don't know much else I would get if I got airpods Pro instead
1:15:47
of these like you know I guess the spatial audio and the voice isolation when you're on phone calls but um and
1:15:53
you know the nicer iPhone atic switching yeah that's a big one that's a big one automatic switching is the big one yeah
1:15:58
but you know most people most people don't like automatic switching like I
1:16:03
actually read a how-to article earlier this week on how to turn off automatic switching because a lot of people find
1:16:09
it kind of irritating why would you find that feature irritating well a lot of you know a lot of ordinary people uh
1:16:14
just want everything to come out of their phone you know that you sit down in front of your computer and they still want the podcast to come out of their phone oh interesting okay yeah I I
1:16:23
absolutely find that annoying at times you know it's like it's kind it's like the thing with uh you know which sheeri
1:16:30
is going to answer your question if we say sheeri will that get us by which sheeri was going to answer your question
1:16:36
it's sticking so hard that it goes to like seven different things and it tries and it tries and it tries same thing
1:16:41
with the automatic switching like sometimes it works beautifully other times it's like no I I want to keep listening to the podcast that I oh geez
1:16:49
that literally never happens to me I the talking to you know who that that
1:16:55
definitely does and that is really annoying especially because you'll be talking to your phone and then your watch is listening it's like dude I I
1:17:01
literally I finally turn Sy off on my watch like I literally never want to talk to Sy on my watch it never works as well as I wanted to I'm I pretty much
1:17:08
only ever want it to work on my phone come to think of it and maybe my homepods but anyway but with the airpods
1:17:15
it it it stays connected to the device that I'm using pretty much all the time maybe
1:17:21
that's because I'm not trying to use two Apple devices at the same time then never automatically connect to my Mac
1:17:27
that maybe a setting that you could yeah there is a setting you can switch off okay because I don't want my airpods to
1:17:33
ever work with my Mac so maybe I just have that turned off it's just my between my iPad my Apple TV and my
1:17:41
iPhone and I feel like the iPad and the iPhone I'm never using at the same time so maybe that's why I don't have issues
1:17:47
uh and then the Apple TV you have to literally turn it on and Route the sound to your airpods if you want that to work
1:17:53
but I would still consider that to be it's not automatic switching but you still have the option to switch you
1:17:59
don't have to pair your hair your your headphones to like the device you want to use and pair it to this device and
1:18:04
then pair it to this other device so even if it's not automatic it's assisted switching like it's always available to
1:18:11
be switched to which is what I love about the airbots I I will say about this device
1:18:16
like I've some Bluetooth devices are better at connecting than others these are really good like you know it you you
1:18:22
you click the connect button and then it Broad cast itself like really fast on all the other devices like switching it to my computer for like the couple times
1:18:29
I tested that it was it was really efficient you know so comeing back to these you know um the another advantage
1:18:35
over the airpods is that they're black instead of white some people don't Apple's apparently never going to make earbuds in any other color than white so
1:18:42
if you want black ones you know I mean that's something there's no amount of money you can pay to get those on airpods but you get that on these um
1:18:49
yeah overall you know they they've like copied Apple's case design where you know magnetically snaps closed and you
1:18:55
you know they're presented like that and you just pull them out it has a little charging light on the front uh I guess
1:19:01
the charging case doesn't have wireless charging but you know it's USBC on the bottom so I almost never used the
1:19:07
wireless charging on my airpods either so I have it as long as it's UB USBC I feel like that's good enough for me to
1:19:13
be honest with you yeah okay what' you say those things were called These are the I have to look at the Box again
1:19:19
sound pets air4 Pro hear your imagination it says
1:19:25
the my imagination has been silent this whole time I had no idea it has automatic ear detection that's good oh
1:19:32
yeah yeah I don't know if you mentioned that but uh that's one of the best features of
1:19:37
aods all right all right well let me uh tell you about what's been going on here at the cult Command
1:19:43
Center so I bought something kind of on a whim it was either last Black Friday
1:19:50
or possibly even the Black Friday before I do not even know I I should I I got to look this up hold on
1:19:58
I got to know when you bought it I don't you know sometimes you buy something and you think you're going to use it right
1:20:03
away and then you're like oh I'm GNA get to it and well I got to have to switch things out to make it work and uh and
1:20:09
then you just kind of like leave it in the box for a long time sometimes you never take it out of the box has ever happened to you guys I have the opposite
1:20:16
problem where I imagine how I would change my life if I bought a product then I'll go like three years before I actually pull the trigger on it and then
1:20:22
and then as soon as I order it I'm incredibly impatient and I want it to arrive right now okay well okay so it
1:20:29
was March 2023 so I had it in the box for a whole year and it's been sitting there sitting
1:20:35
there sitting there sitting there and finally I was like dude I had some time off this week to take care of some stuff
1:20:41
I'm like I have got to get this thing unboxed so you're like Dude tell us what it is please you've been teasing me this
1:20:47
whole time my nips are irritated just tell me what the darn thing is don't act
1:20:52
like you don't know what I mean Griffin uh let's see here actually I got to grab this other piece hold
1:20:59
on anticipation there you go okay so I'll finally get into it now now that
1:21:06
I've teased you I had I have the original Nintendo switch here it is I
1:21:14
have done whatever I can do oh you can kind of see my setup there to keep this thing working I I leave it pretty much
1:21:21
plugged in the dock all the time it's just always plugged in the dock and so
1:21:27
the battery life I thought would suffer it hasn't it still gets great battery life but eventually the batteries died
1:21:33
on the joycon controllers and so I replaced the batteries um I just went
1:21:38
onto Amazon or Ebay and I bought some new batteries and I replaced them which is super easy to do and they still work
1:21:45
great so I well I'm kind of get ahead of myself what I did was I bought the new
1:21:54
tears the kingdom OLED uh switch cuz I am a sucker for the
1:22:01
Zelda stuff I bought like two copies of the game the collector's edition and the regular
1:22:06
edition well the regular the regular edition is digital but I have like the collector edition that I haven't even
1:22:12
opened um and can I get this thing closer to the camera just how much of a collector you are you know dude I am a
1:22:18
collector uh and you could see like the intricate nature of the joy con
1:22:24
controllers they're so beautiful and like detailed and stuff and so I bought this thing because it has the Zelda
1:22:32
styling and I was like oh it has the olded screen even though I don't play undocked very often so I finally
1:22:38
got this thing unboxed this week I was like holy moly what a difference between
1:22:44
this new Switch and the old switch so
1:22:49
one of the big selling points about this new uh TI of the Kingdom switch and the OLED switches in general en
1:22:55
is that the screen Fidelity is just night and day difference but what I
1:23:01
didn't know is that it's also a much bigger screen and the newer switches are
1:23:07
slightly faster so the performance is better but the screen is like significantly bigger I'm trying to turn
1:23:13
this thing on as I talk here so you guys can see uh let's see here so here is
1:23:19
oops let me unlock this so here is like the original switch
1:23:25
this is the original one that came out right when they allowed pre-orders and you could see it has like pretty big
1:23:31
bezels I'd say like a half inch maybe 3/4 of an inch of a bezel all the way around it and then I'll get the OLED out
1:23:38
and you'll see it's way more vibrant and the colors on it just pop
1:23:47
right off the screen it's like dude it's almost like an iPhone where you don't even feel like you're interacting with a
1:23:53
screen because it doesn't feel like they're that far like I'm trying to hold this so
1:24:00
it's not tilted uh it doesn't feel like the screen is is that far below like the
1:24:06
screen protector and then you'll see the screen itself is actually far larger
1:24:12
than the original switch screen is which I didn't even realize when I bought this
1:24:18
so even though this is not a new console by any stretch it's a year old now it's new to me cuz I finally opened it and
1:24:25
it's got like this really beautiful like gold color to it with all these Zelda
1:24:31
Graphics painted on the joy con and then you get it with like that that big
1:24:37
beautiful OLED screen with that the smaller bezel and I am just completely
1:24:42
in love with this new Switch I had no
1:24:48
idea that it was going to be this beautiful and I know that sounds insane to say because I owned it for a year and
1:24:55
it's just was sitting in the box but I kind of bought it without much thought I was like oh it was on sale on Amazon I
1:25:01
think they were selling it for like 320 or something and the batteries on my current switch were dying so I was like
1:25:07
oh I should just buy a new one because the joycons are like $80 they're outrageously overpriced but then I ended
1:25:13
up spending $12 to swap out the batteries in my current switch joycon so
1:25:19
now this one's like new as as well I don't even know what I'm going to do with this maybe I'll give it to my kids or something I don't know
1:25:25
but uh it's kind of a cool artifact just from Nintendo history I shouldn't even say that I
1:25:30
don't want to click this thing I've got almost every other Nintendo system that I purchased I don't even play anymore
1:25:37
Museum but if you've been using the original OLED switch and you've been thinking about switching or the original
1:25:44
switch and you've been thinking about buying like a newer version um I will say get the OLED man it is such a
1:25:53
massive difference like the colors on this screen are so beautiful and vibrant
1:26:00
and it's more responsive and the animations are smoother and it loads slightly faster and then I think you can
1:26:06
still buy this same switch on Amazon and you get the cooler designed uh joycon
1:26:12
just a very cool piece of hardware and then I also got this which I haven't even opened yet but this is the uh tiar
1:26:21
of the Kingdom n Nintendo switch official case which you got to have a case for
1:26:27
your switch and I have like a really generic just black Nintendo switch case so I bought this one as well because it
1:26:34
has like the tears of the Kingdom design on the front of it which should we open this live on the air should I go ahead and do it yeah sure I mean let gonna
1:26:42
open our new unboxing podcast perfect art form for an audio I
1:26:47
call it cuz it feels really good you know when you unbox something so like I'm going to call the channel unboxing
1:26:53
Therapeutics how about that unboxing Therapeutics no lawsuit there uh it's
1:27:00
almost a shame you know my problem is when the Nintendo stuff is their packaging is so exquisitly beautiful and
1:27:05
they do such a good job integrating the product into the package that I don't even want to open it which is how I
1:27:11
ended up being an amiibo collector I wasn't even trying to be an amiibo collector but I couldn't get myself to open these dang things because they're
1:27:17
so beautiful so there it is there's the destructed but here's the tears of the
1:27:23
kingdom and if you're listening to the this just go to watch.the cultcast
1:27:37
docomo sitting there on the edge of the cliff what a powerful Warrior he is look
1:27:43
at Zelda I kid of course uh but he's sitting there link sitting there on the edge of one of those Sky Islands just
1:27:50
overlooking one of those beautiful Vistas that you get in the game and this was on sale too so I bought
1:27:56
both these and oh man it even has like a colored um zipper and a
1:28:03
special emblem like Zelda emblem right there on the zipper dude it's the
1:28:09
details man this is why people love Nintendo although I think this thing was made by PDP um who does a great job by
1:28:15
the way so oh that just scratched my that just scratched my Nintendo switch
1:28:21
that I just opened just dropped it awesome that's brok broken now great no that's fine um yeah so I wasn't going to
1:28:29
promote on the show but then Griffin was like G to talk about these headphones and I was like all right I got so I got
1:28:34
some and it's been far too long since I've talked about any kind of Hardware but that's it that's all I
1:28:40
got anything from you leis or should we wrap it up there I'm gonna take a pass all right my gift is
1:28:46
nothing all right well then maybe next time under review the end of the show oh
1:28:52
man it's got a it's got a oh look at that it's got a much improved it's got a
1:29:00
kickstand but like look at that kickstand it's way bigger than the kickstand on the normal switch oh man
1:29:07
it's got like a like a hydraulic
1:29:13
adjustable yeah the kick on the oral switch is a flimsy piece of plastic that you wouldn't trust to actually hold it
1:29:18
up no it's tin the OLED the OLED stand it's like the Microsoft Surface ones where you can put it at any angle and a
1:29:24
much wider range of angles it's nice yeah it's way better I had no idea all
1:29:31
right that's it I think we should go ahead and wrap it up there we we've been
1:29:36
streaming for 17 and a half hours I can't believe we even went this long but that's it that's all the cult cast we
1:29:42
have for you guys this week but you know what fun never stops when you're a member of the very exclusive cult Club I
1:29:49
think we're having our badminton tournament this weekend uh make make sure you bring your
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robe ties to that when you're running around that could end up being a catastrophe for all of us so if you're not a member and you want to come hang
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keep telling you you're going to feel lighter just just just you're going to feel better like you're contributing
1:30:14
you're a part of the team so really I'm doing this for you it's not even for us after I pay all my marketing people and
1:30:21
scientists I make zerar off it and why do I do it will because I'm a
1:30:27
selfless person Lo uh this has been the cast I said that part I did this last
1:30:32
week new episodes of the coast come out every Thursday night I want to thank everyone for listening for hanging out live and we'll see you
1:30:40
guys next time we unironically said before we went
1:30:45
live maybe this will be a short episode and this turned out to be the long longest episode we had every time I say that I curse
1:30:51
us next time when we start I'm going to say this is probably going to be the longest episode that's ever been
1:30:57
released in the podcast format and then we'll do 22 minutes and we'll just run out of things to
1:31:04
say and then I can finally keep my promise of this
1:31:10
being a 30-minute podcast which I don't remember the last time we kept that promise but it's been a while I think
1:31:16
Leander Kenny was on the show he was always ready to get off the show remember that went by in a blink of
1:31:23
an eye all right bye everyone [Music]

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