What we like (and don’t!) about the new iPhone 16, AirPods, and Apple Watches (CultCast #664)

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Lewis go grief you've been in such control for the last weeks on iPhone
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event day of all days I disavow he's excited though which you
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know it's hard to control yourself when you're that excited let's see if let's see if we're
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live oh my the chat is on fire there's like three people here and they're going crazy I think we're live
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oh yeah here we go oh my goodness Hugo last throwing the money at us we're
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going to make this happen Hugo we're making it happen you know what else we need to make happen the GU Force display back
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here I'm only like what five months behind geez yeah what the get with it
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get with the program oh man sorry guys I think I have a little bit of a cold so be clearing my
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throat a little bit throughout the throughout the uh program here uh we got
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Wesley here okay I'm ready for this start Mr Elijah I saw another person and
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their name was Alexander Elijah never seen that before and uh I think they're
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like a famous director or something I think that he might need to hear from my high power legal team we got caveman
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here we got anth Towers oh you're looking forward looking forward to some expert opinions he's also interested in
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what I have to say get the mod the mods in here get the moderators in here
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please get the moderators in here please we got Hugo last in here just throwing out
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money like he's got nothing left to lose and maybe he doesn't I mean he is here after all we got Jeff crumpley we got
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into it Tom we got Wesley which I already said so double shout out for Wesley I I disavow the first one uh
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let's see here we got a ton of stuff to talk about I was kind of thinking we should just hop right in I'm not sure
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how Mrs D is goingon to sound today I hear she has a cold as well I got like
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these this is kind of like a strange coincidence these vapo inhalers have you guys ever tried these things before
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these vix vapo inhalers it's like a it's like vix Vapor Rub in a stick you jam
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this thing up your schn and just take a little off bit you want to see that looks like a a glue stick that you're holding in your hand wait a sec wait a
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second this is the glue stick no Wonder's not working I feel extra stuffed up
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felt terrible all day you jam this thing up not too far Louis not too far take a little snort of that oh man
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that is cold cold as ice what a what a way to start a Tech podcast that's great
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you know I don't know if it actually does anything at all people it has a lot of great reviews and people say that
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that like it helps clear you up I don't feel like this does anything for me at all but it does smell nice and maybe you to imagine how much
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worse you would feel if you weren't doing that I mean that is true maybe I would feel more terrible actually I
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don't feel bad at all but that's the problem with all these medications you don't know yeah yeah I'm not actually sick but it's not making me feel better
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what's wrong all right look that's not what the people are here to hear about we got a whole stuff or whole show of
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stuff to talk about do I want my notes up here oh thank goodness so let me get everything rolling we'll queue up Mr D
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and I want to hear oh you want the Tweet action all right all right look at this unbelievable oh you know what I don't
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have I don't even have the tweet action ready oh my God let me do that real fast I told you I had it cold
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x.com this is GNA bring him in Louis this is the one I got a good feeling about it comes
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the magic there you go Lis enjoy that piece
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of artwork right there let me know if you want me to print it for you okay let me go ahead and queue up Mrs D
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I'm excited to talk about all this Apple Hardware oh Mrs
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D oh Mrs D oh yes my dear I'm also excited this weekend I'll be making love
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to El kany thought she was gonna say PR in the iPhone was but that's not what she
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that's not what she went at all and I should have guessed that was the direction it was going to head Mr D no one wants to hear about that no one
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wants to hear anymore about that if you don't mind we're all feeling slightly nauseous I've got a cold that didn't
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help let's get the music going and we'll get this show rolling in three
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two oh no that didn't do anything did it wait a second wait a second to launch
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that was a misfire I hit the button hello and welcome to cast the
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best 30 plus minute Apple conversation you're going to hear all week long I'm your host airon
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Elijah join me today since the Apple event he's been on a loud speakers shouting and threatening cul math Riders
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and the inclusion of the frothing German Shepherd guard dogs with rabies has raised their typing speeds alltime high
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it's a great idea he's the managing edor CAC Le walls is here I'm on a chain right you're just
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like holding him back but only barely like inches away third face also with us talk about
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dedication he's been typing non-stop since this week's bow Time Event not breaking to eat or sleep and his
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bathroom is just a bucket that sits underneath a circle cut in his chair he's a rider at
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[Music] culac that's told dedication Griffin
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Jones is here I've also been training my own dogs as Counterattack dogs to me
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this is Jack dog good luck with that what do you got like a golden
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retriever one of my dogs is a pitbull mix you know you got a pitbull mix yeah
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Pit half with Chihuahua oh he bass hound even better the most evil dog on
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earth he he doesn't have like the pit Blockhead he has kind of like a dumb little round head with big floppy ears
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very interesting look is on Spring what was that what is said on a
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spring a spring I'm saving up for one of those robot dogs that's what I'm saving up for okay well just give it a few more
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years you'll probably end up with one in your house I don't know if you'll be the owner of it but the door breaks down comes the dog I
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hear the DEA is using them now so they should be showing up at elcy's house any day now all right everyone welcome to
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the codcast we got a whole lot of stuff to talk about and not as much time as I
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would like to talk about it I G to be walking these sweet puns out the door in about 75 minutes which I think that
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might be enough time we're going to go through we're going to go through everything here everything that Apple announced what we like what we don't
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like the new iPhones um the new airpods the airpods max the new Apple watches
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just absolutely everything and we'll talk about what we're going to pre-order and
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I think we're going to wrap up with the prediction results oh boy oh boy I don't even want to ask I'm not even going to
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look at Griffin because I feel like his facial Express is just going to give it away I giggling the whole time when I
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started or when the event started I was like oh boy this not you're not good so far I was in the negative I still might
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be in the negative and I don't think I won this one I think I know who won but
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we'll go through the predictions and see who actually who who who actually locked it in uh before we do that let me see
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here do I have my stuff up is my life actually in order oh yes I think that it
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actually well might be no no it's not I'm uh of course completely unprepared
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In ladies and gentlemen we have it all for you here today the iPhone 16 the iPhone 16
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Pro should we mix it up should we start with what we're going to pre-order I feel like we should start with that
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rather than going yeah because people already watch the event they know what's
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coming and we'll talk about our impressions of everything but I'm just curious what you dudes are actually
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going to end up going to sprinkle in a little bit of opinion as we cover all these stories and that'll sort of tease
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the audience towards what we might pre-order and that we'll reveal it at the end you've kid this me let's talk about iPhone 16
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first I thought that this might be the most exciting iPhone announced at the
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event to be honest with you and I'm I I'm even kind of considering buying one
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I don't know why it's only Iphone phone that gets the cool colors the iPhones this year I thought Apple knocked out of
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the park I loved the teal color I actually lik the blue I actually like the pink now I would probably never own
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a pink phone but I did like the actual color of the phone and the features that
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are coming to the phone I thought were compelling this is probably like the best value iPhone proposition that
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Apple's made at least in my in my memory um let me pull this up and then
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of course you get all the great colors actual colors and you get actual colors unlike the pros which I'm sure we'll
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we'll talk about here um yeah the these are easily the most compelling regular phones that they've ever had since they
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first split them I was surprised I mean I I thought like a few of the features were going to come to both phones but
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I'm amazed at how much is coming to the regular phone this year me too I I mean there's I was actually looking to see
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what the differences are between the two phones because they're so similar and there's not a lot of extra features
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coming to the Pro phone for extra money so I think that this might be the play
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for I think most people to make now for this audience off the top of my head like the the pro phones have the uh
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promotion display with the higher refresh rate a lot of people like 120 htz you know it has the always on
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display that's still on the regular phones and the 5x Zoom you know yeah but
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aside from those things you're getting all of the other Marquee features on the iPhone 16 you're you're getting the
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upgraded ceramic glass on the front the ceramic Shield as they call it which they say is two times tougher than any
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smartphone glass I don't know I I always keep minding the case I've never tested that myself uh you get the uh the action
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button there's also the four sensitive camera control button on both phones uh
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you get the 48 megapixel um Fusion camera and let's see here you get the
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same improved uh 12 megapixel ultrawide camera and
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now you have the a18 instead of the older chipset now it's not the a18 pro which to be uh transparent I'm not
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totally sure what the differences are between the pro and the uh the regular A8 maybe like a couple of cores or
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something but I'm going to guess they have the same clock speed engine is is I think they said 10% more powerful on the
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pro chip the GPU has I think better graphics in it okay and it's it's like incrementally better in a few ways and
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it has the New Media engine which is is faster for decoding and encoding video
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but I mean that that's that's a serious Niche feature I think on a phone um on
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on a MacBook Pro I I think that would be more of a compelling reason to upgrade but on a phone it's like okay and then
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of course you get all the great new colors which you don't get on the pro phones I mean Apple threw everything
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that they could at this phone I I mean compared to previous years for the regular iPhone um this is a this is a
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serious upgrade and I think that they're going to sell a ton of these things especially since the price is only
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$7.99 I'm still probably not going to end up with this phone just because I have like this strange compulsion of and
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for always spending the most that I can for any Apple device and having the absolute best but I'm just so tired of
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the colors I'm so freaking tired of the the pro color is never changing I mean
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every year the exact same colors I I just don't know why they can't give us a
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few more options uh and we'll talk about the color the copper color here it's more I
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would say copper than bronze but yeah Griffin I can see your finger wagging around what better way to Stick It To
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The Man Show Tim Cook what for than spending than giving Apple less money
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and getting the better color phone that you want I that your heart that your heart this could be the wakeup call that
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copertino needs everybody stop spend stop giving Apple so much money give them $200 less
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screw you I'm going with the cheap phone because I want a blue phone that's actually blue I'm giving you $900
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instead of $1,000 I would miss I would miss the um the 5x Zoom to be honest that is super
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useful the other day I was uh so I bought a car some of you may know that and I was trying to sign it up for
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insurance and they needed the license plate and so it's across the street but I could see it from my window and I
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didn't really want to cross the whole street so what did I do 5x Zoom I got a picture of the license plate from across
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the street and was able to read it to them so it does come in handy in a lot of instances and I and I definitely
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would miss it but the surprising thing is is aside from that camera the cameras are the same on the iPhone 16 across the
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regular and the pro I mean the chip is almost the same there are a couple of small
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differences I mean the 10% slower GPU speed is that what you said Griffin I didn't hear that but yeah yeah it's it's
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it's a or was the neuronet was that was 10% slower okay and the the reduction in GPU speed but I think by and large these
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phones are so similar uh that's kind of all there is to say about them I I don't know if you guys have any other thoughts
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besides that but I thought it was one of the best announcement that they made at at the
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event leis you said you were considering getting the entry level phone as well yeah I mean
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it's you know especially when it starts you know I if I start
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realistically looking at things it's like well you know every year I get an iPhone Pro every year I don't record an
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album with it every year I don't uh you know go out and do a documentary film using it every year I don't do all these
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things that it's actually you know made for I mean that's the re
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that's why it's called Pro because it actually has these Advanced features it's you know I don't know my my wife
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and I the same thing you know we've always had the pros it's like well I don't know do we what do we need look at that teal Lo
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look at that beautiful teal the color favorite one is the teal I think so yeah I'm a big fan which one would you go for
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L if you were to pick a color I like don't tell me you would get an entry level iPhone and just get black
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ultramarine it was kind of purpley kind of purpley in my opinion I like the blue one best do you okay got the ultra Ultra
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it kind of looks the teal one is like you know full Jimmy Buffett I mean which is okay I'm not against Jimmy Buffett
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but uh it looks very tropical yeah it does but I love the color play like that
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glass behind the lenses and stuff between I was just going to say the same thing I mean it's like there's actual
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color there I mean what if the whole phone was that color I actually would love that I I
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really like that color a lot I'm sorry I you guys don't want to hear me complain we've you've heard it before I I just
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every year we at least look forward to seeing what the colors are and I just think it's it's such a bizarre strategy
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to only give us one color that's different on the pro phone every year and it's always like some you know mom's
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minivan blue color it it's always it's some kind of unimpressive color
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that is kind of controversial like purple or mom's Manan blue although I guess that one maybe was more popular
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this one it's it's Mom's uh compact powder case copper like it's mom's mom's
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purse tan is what I would call it you know it's it's 1998 Toyota Camry with
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the gold badge on the back I actually wish you were so this is the thing about
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about we should bring up the pro phones this is the thing move on to that yeah before I before before we talk about
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like the features can we at least just continue on about the color here's the thing that I can't tell here's the thing
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that I can't tell I have been searching the web for actual photos of this thing it's very hard to tell what it looks
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like in person because when they take a picture of it they have to light it which makes it look lighter than it
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actually is and uh Griffin I should see if I could pull this up you s the only pictures that exist of it are the only
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pictures that exist of it are the pictures that people have taken again inside the Steve Jobs Theater which is a
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very brightly lit room like it's exposed against like a perfectly white table with like the white stone walls and
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everything so of course the picture is going to be Overexposed but I found like a few pictures that people I don't know
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what camera people took these pictures with that make the phone look different than every other picture but in some
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shots it looks much darker like it looks way darker and like brown rails on the side as opposed to like gold rails with
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pale gold I'm going to try and bring this up yeah and those pictures that you posted in the very exclusive uh uh cult
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Club I thought was the best representation of that phone that I've
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seen well that's a bad way to describe it those are the most appealing colors or the the most appealing pictures of that color I should say that I've seen
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I'm trying to find this but oh I'm in the wrong Channel Channel um and if it looks like the pictures that you posted
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then I'm definitely getting it but I don't think it's going to look like this
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uh I'm trying to pull this up for you all as I Vamp here there we go I don't think it's going to look like this like
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this actually looks like a dark tan bronze color but that's not the way it
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looks in Apple's pictures and the thing is is we got to order this thing at 5:00 a.m. tomorrow and the you know I'm kind
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of tempted to go on natural again cuz I really love the phone of the natural titanium but if it looks like these
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pictures this is actually kind of what I was hoping for but if it's lighter than
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this then it looks like Mom's Lou fake Louis Vuitton purse
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tan um it looks way too creamy and way too light colored what's those like there's a kind
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of Co oh camel here camel hair coats that's that's what that looks like remember those camel hair coats popular
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in the 70s remember I have several loose I see I don't wear them on this
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program but when I go out uh level remix from the chat are we not going to talk about the charger
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speed of the port oh no we will we will but I I don't know if that was if they
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up the charging speed for the regular iPhone 16 or was it just the pro do you guys know I think the charging speed is
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both it's just the pro has faster uh data transfer right okay so
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yeah they they upped it to 45 Watts when you have the thing Plugged In which
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is absolutely Bonkers I mean so I need to post a link of this in the very
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exclusive C Club because people keep asking me like what cables I use because you all know I switch to these cables
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that show you what wage is being used um on the tip of the USB USBC cable dude
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it's so useful so like I can tell exactly how fast my phone is charging at all times which is really useful
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information cuz sometimes you'll plug your phone in and for some reason it just doesn't charge very fast and you unplug it and plug it back in it all of
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a sudden starts charging way faster you can tell how fast your charger is actually capable of charging your phone
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I mean there's all sorts of use useful information so anyway like my phone currently charges at 26 Watts uh it
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bounces around between 22 and 26 Watts so this is almost a doubling on the new iPhones which means your phone is going
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to charge way faster than it did before as long as you have the correct charger that can deliver the goods if you know what I'm saying they say it can it can
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boost it by like a Delta of 50% in 30 minutes which is pretty insane wow I'm
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surprised it's not faster than that honestly but the thing is is like what I've learned is as you get closer to
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full your phone dials back the wattage like it won't take that full charging uh
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or it won't take that full wattage all the way up until it's full as it starts to approach the top level it will dial
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it way back and so it takes longer once you get Fuller um we're all over the place I'm sorry all that to say these
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colors are absolutely beautiful but I don't know what they're going to look like in person let's let's uh just go
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through our notes Here on the iPhone 16 Pro Do It um bigger screen sizes thinner
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bezels I was you know hoping in praying that they they would simply reduce the
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bezels and just shrink it but no they they make the screen slightly larger 6.3 and 6.9 Ines um and the weight is a
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little bit heavier so over the few years uh since my iPhone 12 Pro they made devices
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slightly lighter and uh and smaller but now these new phones are actually pretty
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much back up to where I am to where like when I get an iPhone 16 pro it'll basically be the same exact dimensions
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as my iPhone 12 Pro and like actually a hair heavier which is a little disappointing but yeah I mean with so
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much extra glass that they have in the camera is you know it's actually a little bit impressive but um the yeah the new color is Desert titanium as we
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were discussing uh let's see the same 48 megapixel Fusion camera with a faster quad pixel
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sensor that that enables 4K 120 FPS video recording in Dolby vision and the
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new Pro Models achieve the highest resolution and frame rate combination ever available in iPhone so this was a
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big part of the keynote and I'm hoping that this will enable that this that
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this will remove one of the limitations that's bothered me ever since I got my iPhone 12 Pro so I record all my videos
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in 4k 60 I know air do you really I do yeah all my videos are why I want them
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to be future proofed you know sure I not have might not have the the device I can play it back now but I'm thinking like
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you know I still have a lot of life left in me so you know in a 100 years from now when I'm playing when I'm replaying these these
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Home Videos to my extended like grandchildren or you know extended family or whatever you know I I want it to be like a great resolution in frame R
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but um whoa hold on a second yeah I think you have a fundamental
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misunderstanding of what frame rate does because when you have it cranked that
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high you are creating like a soap opera effect so everything is going to look hyper realistic like you like that look
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I do yeah you're doing that on purpose okay well because if you move the camera around then it then it makes it look
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less choppy and it's easier for your eyes to follow well actually the inverse is
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Trick like the more frames that you capture the choppier it can look if you
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have it well I guess there's different ways of thinking about this because when you have a lower frame rate it creates more of a cinematic effect it makes the
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motion look smoother and creamier but anyway we don't need to argue about this
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but I'm surprised to hear that you do that 60 FRS video more enjoyable like it's a very personal thing for me I like
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the 60 FPS and it's always possible to remove frames like I can bump it down to 30 later if I choose to you can't take it down to 30 but I mean I feel like 24
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at least for me 24 is like the Cinematic effect so that's always what I'm going for but in fast moving scenes it can get
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blurry I we I get what you're saying you you do 60 I you know in fact I would
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take it up to 120 if I were you I mean if you really want a futureof here the thing though when when I'm recording
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videos in that resolution on my iPhone 12 Pro yeah I can't actually switch between the lenses so if I start
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recording video on the 1X I can't go out to0 5x and I can zoom into 2x but it's not actually going to be the optical
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zoom because it can't actually switch to that lens it'll just do a digital crop of that okay because because the iPhone
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at that resolution and frame rate it can't like keep both of the cameras actually live in the middle of recording
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so what I'm hoping is that with this extra processor bandwidth with the advanced media engine that they put in the A8 Pro chip I'm hoping that maybe if
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they can if it's capable of doing 4K 120 then maybe I can turn that feature off and then that would let me start
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recording at 4K 60 on the 1X lens and then switch to the 5x lens or switch to the 5x lens if I want to here's a good
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know if that's possible but we'll see uh and appropo comment from the chat that I think you need to hear from MacBook fo I
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think Griffin is wildly overestimating how interested his grandkids will be in his own
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videos uh I think you might hey sit down here Sunny let's watch my video no
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grandpa why do you smell so weird well maybe it'll just be me but
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and plus they're gonna be watching on their on their Vision Pro version 12 in stereoscopic 880 frames per second and
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you're gonna be trying to get them what anyway sorry we're going way off topic yeah okay so that that's a limitation
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that I hope is lifted with these new phones and you know as far as I know nobody immediately went to the testing area of the Steve Jobs theater and tried
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that out so it's something I'll see for myself but that's what I'm really curious about um the ultra wide camera
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has the same big improvements as the regular iPhone 16 so it captures in 2.6 times more light which will also remove
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another uh downside to the phone and that is that in recent years the 1X lens
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has a significantly longer minimum Focus distance than the older iPhones used to
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on my iPhone 12 Pro I can get the camera within like I think like four or five inches and it'll still be in Focus but
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on newer phones they've bumped that limit up to like 8 in or 9 in which means that you can't actually take uh
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very good resolution pictures with the onx lens if you're getting Incredibly Close it'll take the ultra wide lens and
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crop it but the ultra wide lens uh has a much smaller aperture it can't let in as
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much light and it and until this year it wasn't the same resolution so it would
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be a you know blown up blurry you know upscaled image that would look kind of
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look like a painting when you zoomed in but these improvements like moving the ultra wide lens to 48 megapixels and
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doing that and I I'm looking forward to this I think this will maybe make that limitation a little less irritating for
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people like me let's see photographic Styles have been drastically improved this was a
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feature they introduced a few years ago that you could set up once and it would adjust how the image pipeline of the
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processor like processes the color of the picture that you take so that if you
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want to take more saturated pictures or more muted pictures or pictures with like a sort of cpia tint you could set
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that up once in settings and then it would just apply that to all pictures forever and then it would like the the
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way that it processes those pictures it would be like baked into the image after you take it now they are completely
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changed with these new Pro phones so with every picture you take some of that additional raw data is saved alongside
29:11
the picture so that you can switch between these photographic Styles after the picture has been taken and I've I've
29:17
heard from other people whove like you know asked the Apple media people that
29:22
this actually replaces like the regular color filters that are because
29:28
this is basically a smarter version of doing color filters like after a picture you can go through and you know use a
29:34
black and white color filter and it'll it'll look nicer than you know just turning off the saturation or you know
29:40
you can you can re retune with a white balance and stuff like that in a much nicer way I'm
29:45
looking forward to trying that out um all my notes I'm realizing are all about the
29:51
cameras I guess let's see it has a four microphone array with spatial audio recording so if you
29:58
take a video of people with you know people talking in a busy room with some background noise you can adjust the mix
30:04
and the balance between them after the video has been taken so you can turn up their you can you can really focus on
30:11
the audio they have like a few different filters for this like a studio filter a cinematic filter like a background noise filter this is going I'm pretty
30:18
interested in this like I don't actually have a lot of uh devices that can play back spatial audio in my life since I
30:24
don't have airpods Pro or anything like that but but uh again this it's good for
30:30
future proofing though because it is magical when you have a device that supports it it it really I mean
30:36
especially if you get the new the new airpods which I think also support spal
30:42
audio watching videos and stuff or doing it on your Apple TV with the homepods it does add a pretty cool element of 3D
30:49
sound people people underestimate like how important the sound is and I think people put maybe too much stock into the
30:54
video because like the video is what you see and people you know you know like the the the
31:00
additional microphones and like having a spatial audio that like captures like a 3D essence of the soundscape of the room
31:06
I think that's going to be pretty big here's a really good picture of the
31:11
new desert titanium color which when you look at it here your comments about the
31:17
gold car Griffin which is is that which which car the champagne the champagne Toyota Camry from okay cuz I had a
31:23
champagne uh Subaru Legacy sh it was literally the color was champagne gold and it looked exactly like that and see
31:30
in this light I kind of like it I don't like how golden and flashy the rings
31:36
around the lenses are I wish those were a little bit more muted but we okay I think now is the the
31:44
perfect time what are we all getting what are you what are you guys going to pre-order I'm going to wake up at the
31:51
lovely time of 7:30 the same day I always same time I always wake up you know maybe maybe have a shower yeah and
31:58
then around 8 o'clock which is the the best time in you know it's it's one of
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the advantages of living in the best time zone in the world you know then I'll place my pre-order and currently my pre-order is set for the desert titanium
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color okay you're going desert titanium I'm going to keep an open mind when I
32:18
receive it the irritating thing is like even the even the like embargoed reviews
32:23
won't drop probably until like Monday or Tuesday which is annoying because you know I I I do also want to see this like
32:29
real pictures of this phone before I spend a lot of money on it and certainly before like the the the return period is
32:35
over so I'm gonna also have another pre-order ready that I can place for a
32:41
black color if I last minute change my mind on Monday or something like that
32:46
that's not a bad strategy actually just cancel one of them prep both of them this is I think I'm just being honest
32:52
with you guys that's that's always my tactic here I think this is one of the more underwhelming Pro phones that we've gotten in a long long time I mean even
32:59
when you look at the picture that shows all the features that they always show in the keynote I mean some of the stuff on here is not it it's stuff that's been
33:07
there before like latest generation ceramic Shield uh spatial videos photos and videos it's like promotion it's like
33:15
okay that's stuff that we had on on the last one like really all you're getting that's new is the 4K 120 DOL Vision the
33:22
a18 pro which we get a new chip every year the 48 me pixel um Ultra wide and
33:31
the new camera controls and and the and the the the studio quality mics but aside from that it's like it's just not
33:37
really that much of a compelling update aside from everything that's new it's not very new I just think the stuff
33:44
that's new is just not that exciting and and it's it's also all mostly in the
33:49
regular 16 that's the problem and a lot of it is in the regular 16 so I I think that again I'm repeating myself Shocker
33:55
the 16 is getting the really big updates and the the pro phone is a spec bump and
34:03
we know next year's iPhone Pro is going to be the big one right so so it's like
34:08
do you plurk down a lot for this phone knowing that you're definitely going to want to upgrade next year when we get
34:14
like the slim iPhone or all the big features we've talked about previously coming to the
34:19
pro level phones so for me if you do get the pro phone which I think I'm going to
34:25
um I'm going to get the regular Pro phone not the Mac and I'm debating whether or not I'm
34:30
going to get on that trail or um mom's
34:37
fake um uh I forgot the name of it um Lou Louis Vuitton tan purse color I'm
34:45
gonna have to Workshop that and come up with something a little bit more succinct innocuous khaki that's a little
34:51
too long I like that innocuous khaki that sounds like your dad's innocuous khaki pants color
34:58
um it I'm really on the fence on this color man like I most of the pictures I've seen make it look way too creamy
35:05
and and your mom's compact case that holds
35:10
her nose powder color um a few of them like the ones that you showed me Griffin make it look
35:16
like it's actually going to be appealing and and I'll probably just go for it anyway just because it's new and that
35:23
way I have something to talk about here on the show but I don't know man I don't know I like I like dad's khaki cargo
35:31
shorts that's a good I don't even know if this is dark enough to be classified as dad's khaki cargo
35:37
shorts uh I think it's Mom's Foundation mom's tan Foundation case Dad khaky
35:43
cargo shorts that are too old and Mom wants him to throw away I mean that overwat they're all faded dad's overwashed khaki shorts or maybe maybe
35:51
it's the other way and it's a it's a it's a button-down white shirt that's turned a little tan
35:58
yeah it's not the beautiful Buster honey bronze I was hoping for stain T yeah
36:03
okay what about you Lo no hope taupe
36:08
uh ah man I you know again I can't decide whether to go pro or not just
36:15
because of the money anduh you know yeah I think if I don't get it I'm going to be like I wish I
36:22
could get a close-up shot but then again like I haven't taken that many amazing like telephoto shots in in
36:29
the past year right I I I mostly take pictures when I go on vacation I went on
36:34
vacation I used it once in a while it wasn't it wasn't like a life-changing
36:40
experience having that but um God yeah the colors I I don't know I
36:46
if if I do go with a pro I'm either going to go uh black or white because I
36:52
I've had a titanium one all year it's it's a a very pleasant shade of neutral Gray I don't dislike it but I'm not
36:59
excited about it uh black is I don't know the only thing I what I
37:07
started thinking about is like okay I get a case right if I get a black or a dark blue case it that that white camera
37:14
array is going to look like crap yeah right and I think with a smaller phone I
37:21
I could afford to use a case and not constantly worry if my phone's going to slip off of the desktop like a you know
37:27
know piece of ice so I probably go iPhone 16 Pro and black boring
37:35
black yeah let's bring up this picture here real
37:40
fast yeah okay there we go I I like the idea
37:45
of a of a a Revolt let's everybody just go regular iPhone and and get a one of
37:51
those three new colors and just stick it to Tim see Tim people like colors are we
37:57
yeah I was gonna say uh yeah I bet a lot of people do that though I mean you
38:03
start looking at it it's like a few hundred dolls less well what is it $200 less I guess yeah and uh and you get a
38:11
you know fun color and you get pretty much everything that you need like I'm not a big phone
38:18
gamer a big what phone gamer like you know like if you're like I'm G to game a lot you I want to have like the
38:25
best iPhone for gaming like I don't play games on my iPhone I'm a real gamer we don't play games on the
38:32
iPhone you know are we not even going to talk about the camera control I mean to me that's the most exciting thing about this and that's what makes this decision
38:38
hard if this if the camera control was only in the Pro it'd be case closed right right yeah but and I was shocked
38:46
and that was a that I lost the point on that one I I really am surprised that they brought that update to the regular
38:52
phones as well now I heard some people saying the camera control the new camera control button is kind of awkward to use
38:59
so yeah I've heard I've heard Jason Snell like tried to describe how to use it and it it was like overwhelming the number of things like you click it once
39:05
when you're not in the camera and then it opens camera you like half click it and then it lets you adjust the thing but actually that's coming in a software
39:11
update later and you can't half click it yet to like Focus you click it once and then it brings up the menu but then you
39:17
click it twice and then it switches between functions and you click it again and activates a feature then you double
39:22
click it and it switches back to them it it I feel like that they've overloaded features into that button like they just
39:28
got really excited if if this was like feature it would be like oh no you click
39:33
it and opens the camera and you click it again and it takes a picture and that's the only thing that it does but the cool
39:38
thing is that you can change the settings from it right I mean you can zoom in and zoom out that's what I'm if
39:43
you can figure out how to do it the very most excited about and well it has uh haptic feedback right so I mean you know
39:51
I hav had my hands on one of these but I'm assuming that you as you scroll that you know if you feel little thing in
39:57
your I I I think it sounds like a great thing I think it sounds way more exciting than the action button cuz you
40:03
know the action but they didn't move the action button you to they still in the same place maybe on the regular iPhone
40:08
Pro I can actually use it without having to you know physically move the phone in
40:14
my hand I don't have the you know six inch thumb that you must have to have to
40:19
to do that but a confusing thing about the camera control I mean first of all it's called the camera control it's not
40:24
the camera control button Apple's marketing is very careful like I this this is confusing me as I was trying to
40:30
write it up in in the as the event was happening but um it's weird to me that it's flush with
40:36
the side of the phone because it kind of screws over people who put their phone in a case which is most people
40:44
because either get a case with a giant cutout in the side yeah which is probably what most of the cases are
40:49
going to be like at first because they were kind of caught off guard with this whole thing or you have you get a case
40:54
that like envelops it but then you have to like stick your fing through a hole in the case and then maybe not though like can't aren't there some kind of
41:01
buttons that allow you to have to to transmit like whatever your fingertip needs to do through the actual button to
41:08
the other side of the button I feel like that's what they would need to do and that's what Apple's cases do right yeah
41:14
because Apple knew to design it like that in advance so maybe maybe stick out a few months with an official Apple case
41:19
before you get a third party case on this I mean I think the janky cases are going to do what you just described they're going to just cut out a hole for it but but I I mean for most cases if
41:26
you have a in case maybe that would work but even still you're now you're trying to interact with a button that you need to press
41:33
down uh like maybe hard is not the right word but you have to like basically
41:39
press it with some force and there's and your finger is like raised above where the where the thumb would normally be to
41:44
press that button so it's like your your thumb flesh has to like go through the hole and like press down on the button
41:50
the whole thing is just kind of see the tip of your finger rather than like yeah and like if it was if it
41:56
protruded a little bit like if it protruded just as much like the same as the side button then you could design a
42:02
case where it's like perfectly flush with it and then you wouldn't have this problem but I don't I don't know why
42:07
they didn't do that it's it's a confusing design all the other buttons protrude this is the only
42:12
one yeah uh this I can't wait I can't wait to try that out to be quite honest and and I don't mean just like once I I
42:19
I can't wait to actually really use that and see how it works cuz it sounds
42:25
fascinating I mean if from the very first time that I heard about this and the first you know details rumored about
42:31
it it it just sounded really like a great idea now did they execute it I mean Apple I wouldn't bet against Apple
42:39
pulling that off but then again there's the action button which is like oddly
42:45
placed you know I think next year will be the the year that we get a lot of pro updates and like not as many regular
42:52
updates it kind of seems to like vacillate back and forth so like they'll release a pro with all the features
42:57
there would hold a lot of them from the regular iPhone even so much as like keeping the same chipset on the iPhone
43:04
you know for the following year and they slowly start to migrate the features over and then once the regular iPhone is
43:10
close to the pro iPhone they re they update the pro iPhone and give it all these new features I I I honestly think
43:15
this is going to be a stop Gap year for us like this is going to be kind of like a small update for me I have to cuz my
43:22
phone you know uh is barely being held together the this point by strands of
43:28
glue within the within the screen cuz I had to pull the whole thing apart so I need to update if I didn't need to
43:34
update I would I would seriously consider maybe not updating um because I'm not seeing any
43:40
huge features there's no huge features on the pro that I so desperately want that I would update for
43:46
but I do want it to be waterproof you know as someone who only updates a few years I feel like I'm in sync with the
43:52
boring years yeah like the iPhone 12 Pro it had the flat sides and pretty much nothing else but you know I feel like
43:57
I'm just getting when I upgrade the phone I'm getting like the most refined technology like all of these none of
44:03
these features are new none of them are going to break the only new thing is the camera control and like the slightly better camera but you know I'm getting
44:09
all of the all of the great features of the last four years in once and you know
44:15
I I could trust that like the dynamic Island isn't like some weird thing that's gonna destroy my battery or anything oh it's awesome oh yeah I love
44:22
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44:27
unveils the iPhone Pro in that video he's like you know it's got all these great new features and in this great
44:34
design it's like same design as before you I think he's a great new design he
44:39
like new what's new that was kind of a theme in many respects I mean it was the
44:44
same thing for the Apple watch Ultra 2 we were all excited that they started making that announcement and like the
44:51
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whatever's next which is Apple Watch series 10 series 10 leou a major upgrade
48:25
what you think about the series 10 that was pretty nice yeah uh lost
48:30
another points on this one I did I lost another point on this one yeah it's the slimmest Apple watch yet slimmest it's
48:38
very slim uh bigger screen longer battery life improved water resistance
48:44
and an optional titanium finish upgrade now a serious alternative to Apple watch
48:49
Ultra is what our writer wrote Graham Bower Apple watch expert and fitness
48:55
freak let's see uh series 10 display is easier to see thanks to a wide angle
49:02
OLED display first one ever I believe they said is that correct I believe they did they said it makes it 40% brighter
49:08
when viewed at an angle which I suppose that makes sense I mean you do that a lot with your watch on your wrist there uh new re
49:15
screen refreshes once a second in sleep modes the second hand can keep ticking even when display go to
49:21
sleep I thought that was funny they called that out I mean that is nice
49:27
although because it only updates one a second the the the second hand isn't animated it just flashes from one to
49:32
another which is is that true yeah because it it's only updating once a second that that's all it can do anime
49:40
that is kind of interesting so I guess it goes from like the smooth moving to just the tick tick
49:47
tick which that's what a lot of watches do so that doesn't seem like it would be
49:52
that weird I got to say I love the uh I love the way they do those things that the the aspects of the watch face that
50:00
that shut down when it's down and and come back on I mean that is pretty elegant and every time I see that it
50:05
makes I just go wow that's cool anyway uh let's see uh the aluminum model is
50:11
10% lighter and 10% thinner than series 9 uh let see two types of finishes
50:18
polished aluminum and the more expensive titanium which replaces the stainless steel models uh the aluminum one comes
50:27
in jet black rose gold and silver
50:32
titanium model comes in Gold slate and silver apparently silver is only
50:37
available as M model is that correct I'm not sure if that's true okay I checked
50:43
it myself that went right over my head uh let's see here complement this new shiny metal look Apple added a new watch
50:49
face called Reflections that mimics a metal surface reflecting ambient light as you move the watch that looked pretty
50:54
cool I love the watch faces too I they do they do great job with this stuff uh series tank can go deeper underwater up
51:01
to six meters so you know now it's good for snorkeling uh just don't get it wet
51:06
right comes with a depth app which is a Apple watch Ultra kind of a thing uh
51:13
well it's available it's always been on Ultra uh new Tides app for surfing and
51:18
outdoor water sports that could be handy I suppose uh offers new featur that can detect sleep apnea which uh it's going
51:25
to be one of those things where it says hey it seems like you might have sleep apnea please contact your
51:31
doctor uh price Remains the Same $3.99 and 429 for the two different sizes
51:36
can't remember what the M did it throw off anybody else how they didn't acknowledge that it comes in two sizes
51:41
in the keynote they talking about it as like being bigger as like a singular thing
51:47
but like they didn't even show pictures of the watch Being two different sizes they they didn't acknowledge it
51:53
whatsoever in the event at all I had to check on the website afterwards the whole the whole Apple watch segment
51:59
was just so long and involved I was like wow it was really like this is an Apple Watch event not an iPhone event MH they
52:07
went on and on and on uh I thought the thing looks great you know I mean it's very tempting to upgrade I got you know
52:13
I got a Ultra and I've also got a an old Series 6 that's kind of the battery's
52:18
kind of shot so I don't know man that black one I I think that looks pretty
52:24
cool very very series 10 yeah H don't do don't do it l but as
52:29
like a spare watch that's the thing I mean I would not I like having two watches because I they I mean the ultra
52:35
looks cool in most situations I think but I don't know that black one looks pretty classy you know if you were going
52:42
to wear like a black tuxedo you know like I wear black tuxedos you know at least every other weekend who doesn't
52:50
yeah but uh I I do think it looks good and um I'm definitely not well not going
52:56
to jump ahead of myself here but uh I'm probably not going to get it just CU I'm pinching pennies right now but uh I
53:03
think it looks like a a mighty fine watch and if I I hear people like like one of the guys in our team is like oh
53:08
I'm waiting for the SC I'm like are you freaking kidding me this sounds like the best Apple watch that they've ever made
53:14
I I don't I mean you don't get the uh blood oxygen sensor that's still they still haven't found their way out of
53:21
that Wilderness but uh everything else sounds awesome about it it's the same
53:26
strategy that they took with iPhone where they gave the lower tier model all the best updates well maybe all the all
53:32
the biggest Updates this is an absolutely this is probably the best update that we've seen to the Apple
53:38
watch since the series was it the series 4 got the always on display this is
53:45
probably the best update since then um although although like sleep apnea detection I mean and that's going to go
53:52
back to I believe series 9 watches and Apple watch Ultra 2 so there's no new health sensor right
54:00
nothing no which is kind of weird like they've had a hard time adding those kinds of features I mean all these
54:05
things like like I mean glucose I think is a you know Apple car uh
54:12
yeah blood pressure it sounds like they might actually be able to make that happen but uh you know
54:20
eventually if this if that watch had a blood pressure sensor I would absolutely buy it in a heartbeat oh of course
54:26
everybody would but they have not been able to add hardly any sensors since the Apple
54:31
watch came into reality it's like yeah they almost never had anything yeah yeah
54:37
right that's blood oxygen in tensor was the big one and they had to turn that off yeah right which actually might be
54:42
the reason why they didn't launch new Ultra this year because maybe they just didn't really have anything new to add
54:49
to it and so their contingent plan was like ah we'll just give it a new color and keep it with the ultra 2 until we get this blood oxygen thing worked out
54:56
but this the the the the Apple Watch series 10 the the level of class was
55:02
raised you know like like Sevenfold like that polished body and now that it's
55:08
available in titanium they really made it far more premium and yet it still has the same
55:13
price now funny enough if you do upgrade it to have titanium it's almost the same
55:19
price as the Apple watch Ultra although I maintain this watch a little too girly
55:26
for the of most men I just think it looks absolutely oh yeah it looks way
55:31
too much like a piece of jewelry that like like a woman on the night out on
55:36
the town would wear I think like the large face of the series 10 looks way more appropriate on a woman's wrist than
55:43
it does on a man's wrist I just think it's too thin and like feminine looking
55:49
I I like when you have a watch that's that big I think you need to have some bulk which is why the ultra I think is
55:57
such a a a better looking like more handsome watch it's cuz it has a large screen but it also has some some height
56:03
to it and it just looks more rugged and it looks more it it rounds out the look
56:10
uh on men's wrists I is it just me chat I I just think like the large faced
56:16
regular Apple watch does not look normal on men's wrists I think the smaller one actually looks more normal it doesn't
56:22
look as much like a piece of jewelry now if you want to look fancy and you're going to be literally going
56:28
out with a tuxedo maybe that's the look that you're going for but I don't know man I just think it looks off something
56:33
about it does not look right on men's wrists and I think it looks great and I'm looking forward to maybe getting a
56:40
series 11 or series 12 in the future like get a large one it's still Harding on fine no I'm gonna stay with the small
56:45
one okay see the small one looks way more normal like I when when I had the regular Apple watch years ago I guess
56:52
two years ago I got the small one everyone made fun of me but it looks like normal watch on on a on on a male's
56:58
wrist I know wrists come in different sizes maybe if you have an absolutely massive Hulk Hogan wrist maybe this this is not true and the large one looks
57:06
better you would think it would be opposite because you know females tend to have smaller wrists but I think that the large one looks better on women and
57:12
the small one looks better on men just my two cense take that away you're a weirdo I'm very opinionated about it
57:18
oddly opinionated about it but then the the ultra looks just great on both men
57:23
and women there's just something about the shape of the ultra that really balances out the the large face of the
57:31
watch I don't think I've ever seen a woman wearing an app watch Ultra I have I saw a video with I Justine wearing one
57:37
I was like you know what that looks great on her wrist you would think it would look too big but again it there's
57:44
something about the shape and the depth that kind of balances out that large screen on the on the ultra speaking of
57:52
the ultra interesting how the the the uh we'll get to the lack of updates on the ultra but anyways like I think it's
57:58
interesting how people ask the people have always been asking for like a
58:03
straight up like circular around Apple watch but like on an infinite time scale they're going to get there because every
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revision to the Apple watch design they do makes the corners a little more rounded than before like you go back to
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the original appw watch and that that thing is like straight up square and this thing is it's getting like the
58:19
corners every time it's interesting it's kind of like but yet somehow it it
58:24
always looks the same every year like they said this year this is an all new design and that gave me like a flashback
58:30
to like an old episode of like Top Gear I don't know if the two of you have ever watched Top Gear like the British like
58:37
car show but like they always make fun of Porsche for like coming out with a
58:42
new revision and they would say like oh yes this new generation of Porsche 911 every single body panel is completely
58:47
new and designed and like they would like it looks the same they've changed nothing and that's kind
58:53
of I saw a meme on Tik Tok yesterday that was like the the the the new Apple
58:59
or the new iPhone this guy has like mustache and he tears the mustache off and like the mustache beneath it looks
59:04
exactly the same and I was like that's it man that is that is the iPhone okay look we got a lot of stuff to talk about
59:10
and we have not a lot of time we have 25 minutes we got to start moving okay you got to talk about Apple watch Ultra 2
59:16
now Louis forever okay comes in a new black titanium finish dude I can't
59:23
believe I'm saying this I kind of want one I kind of want one I kind of want one
59:29
with the froto baggin meal chain I know like that black color dude it looks so
59:35
like a grand or something though it's $8.99 it's true it's $8.99 it came out with like black versions of all the
59:40
bands and they all look really cool like if you want to look like Darth Vader going scuba diving that's the watch for you dude that that was actually kind of
59:47
a bummer that I didn't think about is your bands for the previous Ultra really don't look normal on the New Black Ultra
59:54
because the hardware is not the right color so you'd have to replace all of your bands if you wanted this black one but D
1:00:00
dude the the the let me pull this up the black meth Edition oh my
1:00:06
goodness I I don't know if I can get myself to plurk down the money it's a lot of money and I already have an Apple
1:00:11
Watch and the ultra 2 is really not that different but it's just absolutely
1:00:17
beautiful I still hate that they put that stupid orange there's going to do be an ultra 3 next year oh definitely
1:00:23
there's definitely going to be an ultra 3 I I got to say that when they flashed that that black watch with that black
1:00:30
that new I mean that was that for me was a thing was like oh man if I had the
1:00:35
money if I was just made of money I would buy that in a heartbeat because that that that just looks cool yeah it
1:00:43
does and my last Apple watch before this one was I think black I don't know if it
1:00:48
was like a gray color or a black but yeah dude H it's tempting it's tempting
1:00:55
I think the polished black and even like this Ultra black whatever method they've used to D it looks 10 times better than
1:01:01
this like generic dark space gray because like the space gray would only
1:01:06
you know when they did the space gr aluminum it would just basically like you know slightly darker silver but like
1:01:12
I don't the special coating that they did on this and like the polished jet black on the regular Apple watch that is
1:01:19
that those are both cool looking blacks I love the new Alpine Loop colors too they keep hitting it out of the park
1:01:25
with the Alpine Loop colors like that new green that they have that which replaces the olive that they used to
1:01:31
have that I also want in fact I think all the strap colors that they came out with look so much better than the last
1:01:37
generation of of strap colors but you know they're $100 a pop
1:01:42
it's like H I can't can't just keep can't cannot do it um I wait till they
1:01:48
go on sale like typically what I found is when the older generation gets replaced they go on sale on woot and
1:01:57
strangely enough on on Verizon's website and they'll be like at least half off so
1:02:02
I've been buying the straps there but oh man these new strap colors look so good
1:02:09
wow okay I can't I can't keep going tell us about the next thing you're buying
1:02:14
let's talk about airpods oh man okay let's let's talk about airpods th this was the best of show for me and I I I
1:02:22
honestly cannot even believe that Apple did this it is a unicorn product like
1:02:28
there's really no reason to do what they did but they did it anyway and I'm so happy that they did because this is
1:02:34
exactly the set of airpods that I've always wanted so fourth generation airpods comes in two models the model
1:02:42
that I already pre-ordered is the higher end $179 model
1:02:47
which includes the the new case which has USBC thank thank goodness um but
1:02:55
also has this speaker in it for fine my thank God uh and then also has the
1:03:02
noise cancellate uh cancellation I mean just think about noise
1:03:08
cancellation in these airpods it really makes no sense because they're not sealed in your ear so they're not going
1:03:15
to work as well as the airpods pro but I don't care I don't care they don't they don't work as good as the airpods pro I
1:03:20
just want that feature even if it doesn't work perfectly it is such a useful feature
1:03:26
when you're flying or you're in a minivan and the kids are just constantly yapping or uh they're listening to like
1:03:32
an audio every time I go on a drive you guys would not believe the audio I'm subjected subjected to for two three
1:03:38
hours at a time just to kind of keep the kids entertained and I have to listen to it there's no way for me to escape it
1:03:44
and now I mean previously I would have had to take my airpods Max with me which are way too heavy and and bulky to
1:03:51
actually take anywhere uh and now I have these and I I think these are going to
1:03:56
be some of my my favorite products that Apple has ever designed now the one thing I will caveat with is and this is
1:04:03
this is this of course it's going to be the bitter irony just watch they Chang the shape of the
1:04:08
tips and I'm like right when Apple releases the perfect airpods just watch
1:04:14
I'm going to buy them and realize that the new shape is actually uncomfortable or doesn't fit in my ears at all that's
1:04:20
going to be the Bittersweet irony so they'll be best they'll be better for everyone but they won't fit me anymore
1:04:25
hopefully that doesn't happen yeah apple didn't mention this in the keynote because you know they're trying to promote the new product but I believe
1:04:31
now if you go to their like textback or compare page they say that the airpods pro two have twice as effective noise
1:04:37
cancellation so that means that these and the seals and all that will be about half as effective okay I'm fine with
1:04:45
that want to use for but personally I like noise cancelling earbuds when I mow my lawn and I don't think these will be
1:04:51
good enough so I'm actually going to hold out for airpods pro three I think that's wise if you really want
1:04:57
the air or the noise cancellation to work in loud environments or if you want to have the best noise cancellation like
1:05:03
you you fly a lot I think that's probably the move but I just want to cancel out some of the noise like the
1:05:08
kids in the back of the man type of noise like I want to have the option of noise cancellation but I also want to be
1:05:13
situationally aware so I I think for me these are going to be kind of exactly what I'm looking for and and they also
1:05:19
the new case charges with the um the Apple watch charger is that is that
1:05:26
something that previous cases did or is that new airpods Pro 2 do that okay so the airpods Pro 2 or the airpods Pro 2
1:05:32
case does that but the airpods three do not I have those that's super handy and
1:05:40
genius that they do that and they also work with the new Siri interactions H okay uh but the adaptive audio the
1:05:48
conversational awareness the new acoustic architecture um the new case I I just
1:05:55
think these are absolute win I'm super excited for these and um I'm sure I'll talk more about them once they ship and
1:06:01
now if you want the the cheaper uh airpods 4 129 what are you giving up
1:06:07
here I think you're giving up the transparency mode and the noise cancellation but I think that's it the
1:06:13
case is less less it doesn't come with the uh okay it doesn't have the the uh the speaker yeah I don't think I'm not
1:06:20
sure you can charge it Wireless not sure just not sure I don't think it does no oh okay well then in that case dude CLK
1:06:28
down the money airpods are some of my most used Apple products they're some of my most used Tech just period I use them
1:06:35
every single day and so for me I think it's worth having the best that Apple
1:06:41
sells but dude I was just so excited for this I I just I I again I can't even
1:06:46
believe that they're making it hope it's compatible with your ears this product shouldn't exist of course it will not
1:06:53
fit my ears anymore let's take another day version onto weird Apple decisions Corner yeah all right Apple changes up
1:07:00
airpods Max the updates include new colors for the premium over the year headphones tweaks to Apple to active
1:07:07
noise cancellation wait tweaks to the Apple noise cancellation feature not multiple only the one and the removable
1:07:14
the removal of lightning in favor of USBC so these come in uh five colors my
1:07:21
monitor is flickering so I can't read them here we go Starlight midnight purple Orange and blue which is a little
1:07:27
more teal than the previous blue that's pretty much it these airpods Maxs don't update the H1 chip inside so
1:07:34
they're effectively the same headphones that they were four years ago they don't feature transparency mode conversation awareness hair uh the head nodding
1:07:41
gestures that respond to Siri or adaptive audio features that you can now buy for just $179 except these cost still
1:07:49
$549 these are such a non update that even who is famously irresponsible with
1:07:56
his money isn't buying these who's that L and that's how you know there's really no reason to there's really no reason
1:08:04
to and to be honest I like these colors less than the previous colors I think they're worse so looks like a gelato
1:08:12
stand one of those nice artisanal gelato stands where they don't have that's one of the things you go to Italy they say
1:08:17
like oh well if the if the gelato is brightly colored then it's garbage it's fake I've never heard that like that's
1:08:25
it's a fact wow so they all look you know really muted like iPhone
1:08:31
Pros yeah I those colors I don't know man I was kind of hoping they would come
1:08:36
out with these because I like that they would actually update the airpods max CU
1:08:41
I don't own a pair of those and I've always secretly wanted to own a pair of them uh but I I will sell mine to you
1:08:49
for a deal Le if you want some I'm gonna sell uh space Gray just never use them
1:08:56
and to be honest they look funny on me uh with my fro hanging out the top on both sides of that strap it just doesn't
1:09:03
look normal and I almost never use them because I just prefer to have um I pre I
1:09:10
prefer to have something that lets me hear the ambient noise around me so I always just use my airpods the only time
1:09:16
I ever use them is when I fly and they are absolutely the best when you're flying because they just they melt away
1:09:22
all that airplane noise but I don't fly enough to keep them I don't really use them to watch TV because I have my
1:09:28
homepods in a beautiful stereo pair and I I would I would rather have that experience than something over my ears
1:09:34
so I just find that I never use them and so I funny enough I was thinking about
1:09:39
buying the new airpods Max before we found out what the upgrade was and I was like dude I was talking to this is my
1:09:45
inner dialogue I was like don't be a you don't even use the ones that you have now is that a reason not to buy
1:09:51
the new ones no it's not we know that you got to have the best leis but I think I'm going to just cut loose of
1:09:57
mine so maybe we could maybe I could send them your way I don't know man
1:10:05
I yeah it is what it is if you wanted a pair of airpods Max now at least you
1:10:11
have USBC I'm thrilled that lightning is pretty much gone because it is annoying
1:10:16
to have to carry an extra cable just to charge these and uh it makes them easier
1:10:23
to charge when you're traveling now okay did you notice that they called that color orange did they just call it
1:10:29
orange orange that's it okay they' they've completely just giv up it's
1:10:35
orange well the blue one's just blue now it's just blue purple
1:10:40
midnight Starlight yeah they they've given up they've completely given up but they must still sell well enough
1:10:48
for them to keep keep them around I'm surprised at how much of them I see like me too I see a lot of these around like
1:10:55
go to an airport it feels like every 10th person I see them at my gym all the time too people wear them to the gym
1:11:00
they're so heavy imagine wearing to the gym I I had a friend who was like interested in airpods Max and I was like
1:11:07
don't buy them like there's you can get headphones that sound I know you're not an audio file you can buy headphones that'll sound just as nice to you for
1:11:14
like a third of the price why do you want them and they you know it's weird I mean look
1:11:20
they do sound good and they are beautiful and I mean no hate for the airpods Max I think they they exist for
1:11:27
a reason and they are convenient because they have the airpods technology inside but my thing has always been is they
1:11:33
Market them as premium pre premium headphones that but they connect via Bluetooth which is not a premium
1:11:39
connection so it's just kind of weird it it it the product is just kind of strange in that in that capacity to me
1:11:45
because because they're not really they're not really as good as the quality of the craftsmanship would have
1:11:52
you believe from an audio perspective but that's neither here good news is that they they fixed That Hideous smart
1:11:58
case and dropped the price right I actually like the smart case but I don't think they dropped the price it's still 549 no they did not drop the
1:12:06
price which they did with homepods remember that remember they dropped the homepods your like wow amazing and that
1:12:12
and then they killed him so what gives with this they they must be selling they must be selling I can't believe they're
1:12:18
selling that many but okay yeah I mean who knows how many they're selling but they clearly are still selling I mean uh
1:12:23
selling enough to keep them around okay we got to wrap up we could just skip this let's
1:12:29
go what we're ordering didn't we already talk about this yeah we did are you guys ordering anything else besides the new
1:12:35
iPhones I might get the uh Apple clear case but okay which I'm I'm only going
1:12:40
to put on like you know weekends when I'm traveling and I can't risk like damaging my phone catastrophically but
1:12:46
you know I I'll order it just a habit I guess what about you Lis just a phone
1:12:51
can't can't don't have an extra thousand dollar lying around to buy a second Apple watch Ultra so H yeah you already
1:12:58
got the ultra 2 for so for you it really makes no sense like at least for me I'm going from the one to the two there
1:13:03
would be an upgrade there but it is a brighter screen I gotta say uh Leander
1:13:09
and I went to this event and we were I was like well how much brighter is yeah it is actually brighter it's 50% brighter it's an extra thousand nits a
1:13:15
thousand nits is pretty eye popping helpful for sure which is pretty P
1:13:21
practical when you're you know scuba diving deep down like I know you do right in in in in the mar on the top of
1:13:27
a mountain peak okay let's let's wrap up with our
1:13:32
predictions shall we oh god look look at look at Griffin over there trying to contain himself unbelievable cat Canary
1:13:41
snickering okay I'm just gonna we're running out of time here so I'll just run through the highlights because we also have to Crown Crown our audience
1:13:48
winners as well all right let's do it so in the iPhone section uh let's see a few new few surprises in here yeah all the
1:13:55
uh all the iPhones got the new physical camera button so that's a point for Lewis and I over Aon the basic iPhone
1:14:01
did get a new chip called A8 now it wasn't just a name only like this is
1:14:07
actually a bespoke chip as well um yeah but did you hear say oh well this one goes a it skips a generation yeah it's
1:14:14
not skipping a generation if you just change the you know Skip a number in a
1:14:19
name yeah yeah let's see fine woven cases discontinued yeah they disappeared
1:14:24
without Trace they're still selling fine woven yeah the fine woven cases are completely gone was it was it cases only
1:14:32
oh cases only discontinued I thought we were just talking about fine woven in general the pick as written is fine
1:14:39
woven cases discontinued unbel still sell the watchbands and the wallets and the wallets moving cases are gone should
1:14:45
have dropped out a law school iRun unbelievable let's see iand a section
1:14:52
Apple watch section this is where it gets interesting yeah the series 10 is larger and thinner uh it didn't break
1:14:57
compatibility with smaller bands the pick as written was Apple watch Ultra 3
1:15:03
comes in new dark finish they didn't come out with an ultra three they just brought out the dark finish on the ultra 2
1:15:09
so our listeners got I think that was one of the highest um highest scored picks amongst our
1:15:17
listeners uh blood oxygen features are re enabled nope didn't mention it they're still selling watches with that
1:15:22
feature gone um Apple watch se3 is plastic colorful and less expensive you
1:15:28
two get a point for that because they didn't come out with one at all
1:15:35
exists I I voted for it but you know there that watch doesn't exist so let's see uh the other product section this
1:15:42
one is um pretty much all all points for us no new iPads no new Macs uh new
1:15:49
airpods new airpods Max with USBC connector and literally nothing else well we still got a point for that no
1:15:55
new Apple TV the miscellane section new Apple intelligence features announced
1:16:01
yes I I didn't think that there would actually be like a major new feature when I when I voted yes for this I
1:16:07
thought it was going to be like you know announcing a Google G Gemini integration but no we actually get visual
1:16:12
intelligence which is a whole new thing that maybe we'll talk about next week that didn't exist before no visual
1:16:18
intelligence was not a part of Apple intelligence until this week because they tied to the camera control yeah
1:16:23
okay I'm going have to do some research on on that one now I'm wondering who tallied this up who made the decisions
1:16:29
here I I spent hours researching every single one of these so let's see right Vision Pro immersive video Sizzle reel
1:16:35
that's point for you and Lewis that didn't happen you know I'm surprised they didn't mention Vision Pro at all really what a surprise well it's going
1:16:42
the way of fine woven here pretty soon gez yeah our products are 100% carbon
1:16:50
neutral still no products aside from Apple watch but you know more Apple watch configurations are so that's a
1:16:56
point for Lewis and I and the keynote ran long unbelievable but airon although
1:17:02
you're down in points you got the name of the new iPhone color correct because you went with the room wasn't that worth
1:17:08
35 points that was worth which was a three points I'm thinking maybe I'll I'll rework the how many points the Wild
1:17:15
Card pick is worth next time all right because I I imagine this being as being like sort of like a shot in the dark
1:17:20
thing but now two games in a row like a lot of people have guessed wild card so
1:17:26
maybe I'll my Saving Grace kept me from being in the negative I
1:17:31
think but the winner of the game is whoa
1:17:37
both Lewis and I with unbelievable with 14
1:17:42
points I can't believe it I I'm shocked to see that I I thought you I thought I
1:17:49
thought you got it Far and Away I I thought there was no way we even got close that this is the closest one we've
1:17:54
had yet yeah yeah wow 14 for me 15 for
1:18:00
Lewis 15 for Griffin I secured my first win in my own game ever technically you
1:18:05
didn't win you tied no we both won and you also both lost winning I mean you
1:18:11
also both lost so there's that you're the only one who lost in this game that's true but you technically you lost
1:18:18
too so technically we're all tied because you guys lost too and we all lost who had more points than you I and
1:18:25
Le but Lewis beat you but he also didn't but he also didn't beat
1:18:31
you unbelievable in last I'm sure that it's gonna be like 17 audience members
1:18:37
who uh wow beat us all let's let's talk about that so we had three audience
1:18:44
winners who all got 18 points wow Lane Gandy Tucker JJ and Shane Lo
1:18:51
unbelievable on the on the audience submission form I I put in a little space where can add a plug on the show
1:18:56
and here's what they had to write L Gandy said Griffin for the win with a little metal Emoji oh great this is
1:19:02
probably like his cousin or something I I've never heard of him before may maybe that's a pseudonym
1:19:08
Tucker JJ said I was nothing to do with the making of this but more people need to see this and he included a YouTube
1:19:15
url that goes to a shot for shot remake of Harry Potter and the Sorcerer stone
1:19:21
called Harry Potter and the stone so there'll be a link to that in the video descri I
1:19:27
mean what do you call and in the show notes check that out if you want and Shane lther I'm actually gonna give a
1:19:34
special acknowledgement of because he got 18 points wow without the Wild Card
1:19:39
correct wow oh 90% of the picks right which is insane and he said I actually got an
1:19:46
article posted on Cult of Mac years ago so he's apparently one of our alumni unbelievable what's he doing now
1:19:54
design so there will be a link to his article that he wrote In The Shane how do you like eating out of an open trough
1:20:01
does that sound like an appealing Prospect to you there may be a job in your future and also I I also want to give a
1:20:09
huge shout out and thanks to H go last with the huge 1999 Super Chat he said
1:20:14
airone so sorry about spelling your name wrong small iPhone to blame and my big
1:20:19
giant meat hands okay I made that sentence up here is $20 $20 to LK for
1:20:24
your troubles oh great yeah that's wonderful and then he comes back with $49.99 is everyone excited about the doc
1:20:31
being back all I got to say about that Hugo is yeah and Lewis I don't want to hear
1:20:38
nothing about it all right we're gonna go ahead and wrap it up there we had
1:20:43
three people score better than us I think that that's something to think about maybe we should just swap
1:20:49
ourselves out with them and have them just do the show from now on because this isn't the first time that this s
1:20:55
people keep beating us in our own game shouldn't we know these things H maybe not there's a lot going on all right
1:21:00
well happy pre-ordering to everyone and uh we'll look forward to talking about
1:21:06
the devices that we have on the way uh coming next week oh hey uh I won't be here next week so is there going to be a
1:21:13
show Griffin Griffin's not yes okay a special guest next week fantastic okay
1:21:18
awesome and uh if any of you are going to be in the Anaheim California area and maybe at Disneyland come say hello I'll
1:21:24
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at the Indiana Jones ride to years ago did I tell you guys this at that ride at
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the Indiana Jones ride I walked I walked out and I heard someone go airon I turned around and some guy didn't know
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he's like hey it's me Michael codcast listener and did you
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say you I uh I said what's that and I pointed the other direction and then I just took off running I was like oh no
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he found me he found me we took a picture together are you
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taking your phone and a a shiny new Ziploc bag uh only on the wet rides Louis only
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on the wet rides all right everyone we're going to stop now have a great weekend bye y'all

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