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[Music] good evening and welcome to the cultcast the best 30 plus minute Apple
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conversation you're going to hear all week long I will be your host today deerin Jones joining me today some say
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he's adopted The Beatles diet of coffee toast and cigarettes others say he
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Powers his house entirely from the solar flare reflected off his shiny gleaming head all we know is he's culac managing
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editor leis Wallace yeah I like toasted cigarettes actually is that's the best
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uh apparently this is the month where all three of us have taken a week off three weeks in a row we literally didn't
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plan this it just happened to work this way like LS got back as soon as I left
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for my vacation a day later and when I get back Aon says he'll be out weird how that works it's almost European the lack
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of work that's getting done uh one more point of order before we begin on another sad note my Cult of mac Apple
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Financial earnings call live stream Aon was was sadly cancelled I know I scheduled my vacation to get get back
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right in time for it but um the axe throwing act that I hired came down with
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uh rickets and it just isn't a cult of mac Apple Financial earnings call live stream Aon without live ax throwing so I
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don't know go to sixc colors.com I think they have one without axe throwing um
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we're we're just here to cover the news ah the earnings call nothing will keep you waking earnings call like an a you
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know I've that that's my Apple tech journalist never have I ever I've I actually never listened to an earnings
1:34
call oh consider yourself lucky you know what's going to happen
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Tim Cook's GNA get on there he's G to repeat all the things that they've said at every keynote or everything this year
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he's going to talk about how fantastic everything is and how much people love all of Apple devices you won't believe
1:52
how great the uh you know customer satisfaction numbers are there'll be some percentages there'll be a lot of
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numbers then maistry will come on and he'll talk about things that you don't
2:03
understand headwinds and uh till you start tossing out acronyms and stuff Financial Ling tough Compares there'll
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be a lot of tough Compares and uh yeah then then they get the calls or the
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questions which that that can part that part can actually be interesting but the other part is literally just it's just a
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rehash of all the stuff they've released in the past 3 months 6 months whatever h kind of a boiler
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plate sounds like I'm really there what a hair raising thrill that was you know they uh they archived them right so you
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can go and listen to one like for instance tonight if you're really sleepy or not sleepy and you need to get some
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sleep go ahead and listen to the earnings call it's perfect it's it's better than one of those uh White Noise
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generators that that's a good amp idea instead of like you know one of the one of those go to sleep apps that just
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reads off various public earnings calls yeah they they don't tend to be too
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spicy Tim's pretty levelheaded and his well speak speaking of spicy we have
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quite a show for you all this week you can get apple intelligence features right now with the uh latest IOS 18.1
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beta we have the colors of the iPhone 16 and the iPhone 16 Pro we have the next
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era of Apple silicon is Apple's making the uh their own 5G modems Vision Pro that you can control with your thoughts
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rather than your eyes and fingers uh and we have a new podcast that I think the listeners of our show will really enjoy
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apple intelligence features early Apple did something kind of unprecedented this week like uh you know as you know the
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current version is IOS 17 there's a developer and public beta for iOS 18.0
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but Apple has simultaneously released a beta for 18.1 before 18 has even launched I think
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this is the first time they've ever done that also interestingly 18.1 is only available if you have an iPhone 15 Pro
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and that's because this is a special beta that enables Apple intelligence not all the features are
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available yet uh but you can try out um select parts of the new Siri uh all
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their writing tools their mail features and more if you request Early Access if you don't have an iPhone 15 Pro you can
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try it out on a iPad or a Mac with an M series chip as well leis I think you were saying that you're too afraid to
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put it on your main phone yeah although you know we were
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disc discussing before the show right uh precious fers have actual devices that
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we can a run this stuff on and B uh you know sacrifice you know take a chance
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with right uh I always say this with the phone I I I I love to run the beta on an
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iPad because I barely use the iPad but now my iPad's too old so yeah it's weird man I might have to
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take a bullet for the team cuz you don't dare put it on your Mac you got to use your Mac every day for everything video
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and producing podcast and everything so uh yeah geez it's rough and your iPhone
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your iPhone isn't up to snu Ed's iPhone isn't up to snu yeah it's weird gota
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everybody's I that's one of the weirdest things about this is the fact that it doesn't work with a standard iPhone 15
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that to me is just kind of mind-blowing and and it really it's jammed us up
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right I mean that's what Ed has it's been a long time since they've come out with a feature like this I think the last example I can think of is the
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original Siri which required an iPhone 4S and not the iPhone 4 the year before
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and like I had a i i jailbroke my phone and so that I could get sir just for it and you know what it ran really slow and
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not very well I think this is just another one of those like hard hard cut
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offs mhm um I guess another cut up like when they when they switched to 64-bit and suddenly like you know the iPhones
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got like an order of magnitude faster and lasted much longer and like well sorry if you bought an iPhone 5 but the
8:19
iPhone 5S is just way better yeah I actually should have put
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out a PSA if you plan on upgrading to an iPhone 16 this fall you may have a hard
8:30
time transferring data to your new device that's because you can't do a direct device-to-device transfer of data
8:37
when your old phone is on a newer OS than the new phone so if you install the iOS 18.1 beta well the new iPhone 16 is
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going to ship with 18.0 out of the box which means that you'll probably have to like set up your new phone from scratch
8:53
and then transfer your data afterwards uh if you want to avoid that mess maybe maybe don't just just wait a a few more
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months what if they'll do that what if they release 18.0 and 18.1 at the same
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time when the new phone arrives it's already got it it's possible that would that' be pretty neat but you know this
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has never happened before so you can't really count on that kind of nutty um yeah so to get the
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beta you can just go to settings General software update and you can tap the beta updates Tab and you'll see a new Option
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separate from IOS 18 beta iOS 18.1 developer beta and you can um reboot
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into that after you install it then you'll go to settings Apple intelligence and Siri and then there will be an
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option where you can join the Apple intelligence weight list I guess they have a mechanism for that if they want
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to like stagger how many people are getting onto this thing apparently it's still only like a few minutes wait if you want to join in but um you know they
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it's an exclusive club but uh not that exclusive yeah it's like
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a like a bar in Athens in like June you know they they Velvet Rope but yeah yeah
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that's just for show yeah yeah so what features are available they have a
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modestly improved Siri that can better understand natural language if you stumble over your words and stay aware
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of the context if you ask multiple questions but uh you know this isn't this isn't the advanced Siri that plugs
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into your personal context or anything yet that's still to come in a in a moment that I have
10:24
finally been sherlocked uh Siri can now answer Apple product knowledge questions
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and software features so but you know I still encourage our listeners to read my how-to articles on cult of.com
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please you can now text to Siri by double tapping the home bar at the bottom of the screen you know if you
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don't want to talk out loud to your iPhone uh writing tools will rewrite text to match a particular style and
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proofread your work for clarity it appears basically anybody like it appears anywhere you can enter text like
10:57
mail messages Safari third party apps notes the mail app has a few new features where it'll put important
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messages on the top of your inbox and what I think is really cool is that instead of showing in the inbox like the
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first two lines of an email which are kind of useless it has an AI generated summary of it so you can actually you
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know see what the contents of an email are before you open it in a useful way instead of hi Griffin we are writing
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here to tell you that yeah I mean I wonder if this is going to work I I I get a little
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I I guess I'm leery of uh Siri deciding which email is
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important yeah oh God I said it out loud and it's God when will I learn
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never did it start playing music well I I had the tarity to touch it oh like I
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think most you know I can't imagine myself using a lot of summary features like you know if I open an article on
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Safari it's because I want to read it or if I open an email I'm just going to scroll down and see what it's about but like having that in the preview window
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and like the list of your inbox I think is really clever uh you can now you can now turn on the reduce interruptions
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Focus mode that intelligently chooses which notifications to let through again I'm not sure if that's kind of like I'm
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not sure if that's something I trust like I can you know admittedly setting up a custom Focus mode is kind of a pain
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in the ass but I don't know if I trust my phone to let me know which things to let
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through you can search for photos and videos and create memory movies in the photos app using natural language
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prompts uh you can transcribe audio recordings and phone calls that could be awesome y yada y oh yeah if that
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actually works if that works as well as otter it's going to be a giant giant
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thing and now there are a few features missing that are that are yet to come
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that'll probably roll out in iOS 18.2 18.3 and so on like the uh Siri personal
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context for answering questions relevant to you and your life that'll draw from information on screen and stored inside
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apps uh Siri app integration for taking action inside 30 part third party apps
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like you know doing things is just by asking the image playground isn't there
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nor is removing objects from photos or the integration with the chat
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jpt that is still yet to come I didn't get that could you try again I think I
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think you set off one of my what maybe I set off my phone there too did you even say it I don't know you know you said
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Siri app integration M you'll unlock
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yourone wow I I could even hear myself say that which do you want to oh
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God you know I'm gonna put an article in the show notes how do I get Siri to stop talking to you all the damn
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time where you can where you can turn off the um activation word to hey
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computer or just just nothing at all I don't know are you excited to try
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out any of these other features uh you know I mean the the writing stuff I mean
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maybe maybe that'll be useful uh I I was you know I eded almost
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everything in in WordPress in a browser right so and I use grammarly to just you
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know it's like a backup copy editor you know like hey you know you've got two uh
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two words in a row the same word twice in a row whatever I find that to be super helpful especially since you know
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we're lean and mean over here at cult ofm we don't have a copy desk we don't have anybody reading stuff A lot of
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times in the back end ofu so it's uh that kind of stuff is super cool to
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have and and if I mean you know it's not that different from what you already have in you know Microsoft Word or
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whatever uh but if if I can get rid of grammarly out of my browser that would
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be awesome because I particularly love the way it works either it keeps trying to sell me a premium version I'm so
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tired of things trying to sell me a premium version and popping things up and making it hard to do my job um I
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don't know email replies could be handy I suppose although I don't know I mean I
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don't really have a difficult time replying to emails uh typically I don't reply Li to
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them so mostly because I don't want to hear back from people so I don't know you've already
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got an automated system right it's it's pretty foolproof just don't read it delete it or well actually I don't I
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never delete anything because I'm a hoarder digital hoarder uh I I got to
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say I'm interested when they come up with the uh gymoji stuff and I think that'll be probably one of the most popular uh applications of this you know
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goofy as it is and pointless as it is I think people have fun with it um I I would love it if it could have
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a a sort of method of reducing interruptions like that you
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know reduced interruptions Focus uh I've thought about I mean sometimes I turn on a focus mode you
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know but then it's like oh yeah you missed stuff you need to know but I mean I I don't know about you and maybe I
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just need a vacation but it seems to me like in the past let's say 3 months to 6 months it seems
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like the interruptions are never ending you know like something broke during Co
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that hasn't been fixed people just assume that you can reply to any message at any time day or night
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and it's I don't know man I I starting to feel like completely frazzled by it
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so if this if this could actually help that in a meaningful way that would be awesome I mean I I very aggressively
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anytime I install an app or sent up for a service I immediately unsubscribe from all the emails turn off all the
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notifications from the app like I I do that like clockwork as soon as I join a service but I know that a lot of people
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you know don't care or don't have the foresight to do that or don't have the willpower because again it it takes a
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lot of work manually calling these things as they come in but you know and that's how people end up with 10,000
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email inboxes and stuff like that and then that email is basically useless because it's just a fire hose of
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nonsense yeah I mean that's you know that's actually a that's pretty interesting uh uh subject maybe you
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should write a a post about that I mean like take charge of stuff now stop before it takes hold because I what you
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just described I mean if I look at you know like uh I use Gmail right so there's the three columns or five
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columns excuse me uh some of those there are just hundreds of emails that I never see I just I don't bother to look at it
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unless unless Gmail says hey this looks like an interesting message I mean it Flags a couple that it thinks are
17:50
interesting right so it's doing some of these same kind of things that Apple's talking about doing already I mean I've
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never exclusively used Apple's mail app and I wish that it could get on par with
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Gmail so that I could quit using Gmail although I've used my Gmail uh you know
18:07
address for ages so like H I don't know man like you start down the road that 10 years later you're way down the road
18:14
what are you going to do turn around you know you don't you can't get a jetpack out in the middle of the Wilderness to
18:20
hop to a different road I don't know what to do but so you just automatically just unsubscribe from everything
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unsubscribe from everything as soon as I get it like I I don't know if everybody knows this but like every mass email
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that's on an email list is required to put an unsubscribe Link at the bottom of the email sometimes you have to hunt for it and sometimes Apple automatically
18:40
detects it and you know has that suggestion bar with like the one tap unsubscribe button at the top but uh
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yeah you can always find those at the bottom and sometimes you go to the website and they have to trick you but like you know there is always an
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unsubscribe from all emails on the Safari link that you can tap through
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right I'm most excited I think out of all of these for the uh I mean this is dependent on third party developer
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support but I'm really excited for Siri being able to do things inside apps for you now it it it will take a lot of
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developer work and so how useful it will be is is kind of a role of the dice but
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like apple has said that you know right now third party apps that that adopt Siri intents might have like three or
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four different features exposed to the system you know that people might use for creating shortcuts and Apple has
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said no with iOS 18 you need to create an an intent exposed to the system for
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basically everything your app can do and you know the theory there is that you know so that you can ask Siri like a
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complex task like you know take all of these links in this document and open
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them in safari windows and send them all by slack to this person a a chain of
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commands like that could be incredibly helpful for all the people who don't bother to set up series shortcuts for
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the the tasks that they in their daily life or for the things that you know are complex tasks you want to do but you
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only have to do once so it's not really worth making a shortcut out of
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it so you said developers are going to be required to do that or is it just
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like they'll be required to do that if they want to uh want a Seri to work
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within their I we're going to keep saying that aren't we and we're going to keep triggering I don't think apple is making them do that but for Siri to
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sorry for for our favorite voice to work well that's what they'll have to
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do and I I haven't seen like I mean luckily there's not a lot else for developers to be doing this year like
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there's there's the new intense system and there's the Dark Mode app icons and those are pretty much the only like
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items on the developer to-do list this summer You' think that I mean unless
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there's a way to maybe there's some kind of way to automate that I mean is that possible on the back end what they
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already have they just have to say oh here's here's all the things he app can do and no and I haven't I really should
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U you know investigate how much work it is myself but I don't think it's a lot of work but I also don't know that
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because I'm not a very good app developer let's move along and talk about the iPhone 16 finally some razzled
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dazzle yeah so uh iPhone 16 could come in these five colors that's a headline on culta Mac uh alleged iPhone 16 dummy
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units showing off the rear panels design and color options leaked in all their Glory that was earlier this week uh
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picture suggests Apple will return to an iPhone 12 like vertical camera set up on its upcoming non-pro phones that's this
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is a rumor we've heard before uh this photo comes from Sunny Dixon an apple
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leaker with a reliable track record uh based on the image that he posted on X
21:44
Apple might launch the iPhone 16 in white black blue green and pink
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colors uh as our story says the blue green and pink shades of the photo are deeper and richer in color than those
21:55
the iPhone 15 for a more striking look uh with the caveat that the the final
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colors could look a bit different and boy do I hope so uh since we are looking at iPhone 16 dummy units still give you
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good idea of what the iPhone 16 should look like did you check these things out Griffin I did yeah uh it I think it's
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important to note that I think they look weird because I don't think these dummy units are made out of glass and you know
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certainly not the stainless steel or titanium that they may be made out of like they look like they're just plastic
22:25
to me so I think the uh light Reflections or stuff like that might might change and of course Apple's promotional images are going to be like
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professionally shot this is probably just yeah this is probably just taken with somebody's Android phone on
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the in a some kind
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lighting yeah uh yeah I mean I got to say I look at them and it's like H I don't know I mean the the white and the
22:51
black predictable okay looks fine although it I got to say looking at that uh flash there underneath it it almost
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looks like a a mouth underneath two like minion eyes or something if you look at
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the thing sideways uh but the blue uh what how would you describe that blue it's like a the blue is I would say very
23:10
blue well I mean it's much more blue than Apple's traditional so white it's
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not blue uh but it's also kind of just I don't know it looks like putty or
23:23
something I it's a yeah it's a weird like kind of sky blue and the Green's
23:29
even worse I mean cuz it's I mean I would almost call that teal it's a I would call it Windows 95 teal even worse
23:37
what a what a damning description and and the pink is a little more pink than the uh current pink but
23:44
it's it's not it's not it's still not like Barbie pink no I mean what is wrong with apple what that's exactly right why
23:50
is it not a hot pink I mean it's like the hottest color I mean maybe that's too last year for Apple but you know
23:56
what what do they have last year you know four Shades of Gray I mean it's I don't understand it I I well we've
24:03
harped on and on about this in the past you know why can't they give us some some bold colored iPhones I mean about
24:09
the only thing we've ever got is the uh the red ones I mean which I mean they're
24:16
they're fine but you know what their current colors are like it's like when you go to a restaurant and you get like a a slice of lemon in your water and you
24:22
squeeze the lemon into the water and like that's how much color they get right yeah it's like it's like do it
24:28
cost extra to have color in the phone I mean I just I I don't understand it I I guess they think they're being classy I
24:34
guess they think they're being uh you know high-end premium whatever I I just
24:40
I increasingly just like H so what they just look dull I mean these colors but
24:46
that's green and blue I'm I'm excited to see how they'll look in Glass and Metal yeah you know but that blue that
24:51
looks suspiciously like uh what was it the uh iPhone 6 e
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I can't remember what 5c 5c the 5C blue right am I right about that color yeah
25:05
yeah I remember that you know a lot of people rag on the iPhone 5c but I I know a lot of people who had the iPhone 5c as
25:11
their very first iPhone yeah I I remember talking somebody into returning
25:17
one he he bought it I think he bought it for his mom and uh I said you know
25:23
you're saving a couple dollars but you're losing you're missing out on all these things you know just turn it and get the other one and he did and he I'm
25:30
pretty sure he was happy why call I mean the the iPhone 5S that was that's like an alltime great iPhone like it it ran
25:36
up to like iOS 99 I think or maybe 12 I don't know it got years of
25:42
support yeah well I mean like you say these are just dummy units who knows and and I mean they are who knows it's
25:50
impossible to know what how close it'll actually look to that but man if it's if
25:55
it's just that same array of sort of oh home colors I mean I I mean granted they
26:00
make the uh iPhone 15 Pro colors look they're more exciting than those but not
26:07
by much well speaking of which iPhone 16 Pro Max looks stealthy in leaked black
26:13
titanium shade yeah the most exciting part of this lineup is that the black is more black than before Apple apparently
26:19
offer its upcoming Pro iPhones in at least three Shades white black and titanium unlike in the past it appears
26:26
the company will finally adopt a deep black shade for the iPhone 16 Pro Max giving it a stealthy look this is from
26:33
the same leaker Sunny Dixon who posted another photo on X showing the iPhone 16 Pro Max dummy units in three colors so
26:41
far Apple has used kind of like a middling like dark gray for its Pro phones but they still call them black
26:47
but I think for like for the first time since the iPhone 7 Apple appears to have finally used a truly black shade of
26:54
black now the interesting thing is that um Apple usually offers its Pro phones in four Shades if the dummy units are
27:01
anything to go by Apple won't make any significant design changes to the iPhone 16 Pro lineup this year it will
27:07
seemingly stick to the same triple camera layout as before and while it's not shown here both the displays are
27:13
rumored to be 2 inches larger with ultra slim bezels I think I remember reading
27:19
on um must have been like Mac Rumors or something that the the rumored fourth color for the the pro phones is going to
27:25
be bronze right the earthon special mhm yeah and and the the color that was with
27:31
that post was like yellowish yellowed actually more than
27:37
yellow yeah like two old 1980s yellowed plastic is what I would describe their
27:42
concept was but yeah bronze would be a neat color B based based on these images here what do you think you would go with
27:48
of those three uh I'd probably go with the black one just because uh you know I've already got the titanium one this
27:56
time around eh it's it's okay okay I kind of like it I like it uh all right
28:02
but there's just none of them that are super I don't know it's hard to tell actually you know because I almost
28:07
bought a white one last year I don't think I've ever even owned one single white iPhone and uh there's something
28:14
kind of crisp and clean about the white ones the black I mean it just depends on the black right if if that black like
28:20
you were saying before like this is probably a plat piece of plastic right if that black has like cool sparkly
28:26
speckles in it and uh it actually I mean that could actually be cool it's the thing I think you rightly point out with
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all these things that we're missing is that like the depth and yeah it's overplayed in Apple's uh press images
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but when you get them out in the sunlight they do they do those colors do kind of come to life that's the one
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thing I will say that that Apple does right about their their colors is they look better in the sunlight but the
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problem is like who spends that much time staring at their phone outside I mean I guess a lot of people do but who
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lives in a place that's that sunny I live in Ohio yeah they are well you know they're designed in California yeah yeah if if
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the bronze rumor ends up turning true and you know it's like actually like a proper like you know brownish bronze I
29:08
might be tempted to go with that one but otherwise I actually have been thinking about doing a a secret crazy plan well
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what I don't like about the black is that the aluminum frame around or I guess titanium frame around the outside
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is also black and I think that like black glass with like you know silver metal is is a look so I was thinking
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maybe I'll actually order a white iPhone so it has like the lighter you know
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titanium ring around the outside and then I'll use Apple's self-service repair program to buy a black piece of
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glass on the back and then I'll just like replace it myself oh my God you
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know it might be easier to just order the black one and then sand blast the edges that's also a good idea I mean
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that's that's what's slowly happening to my cup here oh my God it's just slowly turning slowly turning silver yeah but
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um I I'll say this though if any if any of our cast listeners would like to do the opposite of what I'm doing buy a
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black phone and then put a white back plate on the back send me an email
30:13
feedback at deerin jones.com we'll do a swap we'll swap our back plates that could be funny Trend I mean
30:20
anything to to just make these things look a little more just exciting I and you know the thing is like apple keeps
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getting kicked for oh their iPhone the same and it's true like it's basically same design as for what four years
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running now or is it even five I can't I can't keep track it's been so long and and that's you know they don't have a
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folding phone they don't have a this they don't have a that you know it's the same old thing right well what could they do that would be simple that would
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make its like seem really different how about a crazy orange color how about you
30:52
maybe the bronze like I always use the the the description of like a bronze
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like uh a carnival ride bronze right like that that crazy sparkly gold
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speckle that you know yeah that could be cool they could they could do something that looks interesting I mean although
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you know I don't I think they just rely on their hype but you know if you if you drive through San Francisco you always
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see the billboard with the Apple iPhone you know the latest iPhone and yeah you know what they look they look better on
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those Billboards than they do in your hand that's the problem from from what I've seen like of the of the few tv ads
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that I've seen they're pretty much just marketing this as the iPhone 15 Pro with titanium like titanium is like
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practically part of the name of it and you know they they don't they don't tell you what's better about the titanium or like anything that they talk about in
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the keynote they just say this one's made of titanium yeah yeah the Apple Store like the big sign on the wall is
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titanium like like anybody you know I mean it it is lighter slightly lighter
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which is awesome but uh yeah it's weird and like if you look at all those colors are like black titanium blue
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titanium okay well fair enough why don't we move right along and uh tell us about
32:06
the Apple 5G modem all right Apple's in-house 5G modem could finally debut on
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next year's iPhones that's the cult of Mac headline reports indicate Apple has spent billions of dollars developing its
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in-house 5G modem but has little to show for it this is kind of a sad story in
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2019 the company acquired Intel's 5G modem business for $1 billion to get a
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head start on its development efforts but that move reportedly backfired with with apple Engineers facing issues with
32:36
Intel's code trying to fix the problems is seemingly causing other features to break that's great this is like the
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longest story in the world in June 2022 our favorite uh analyst Ming quo
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claimed that Apple's efforts to develop the 5G modem had bombed since then though the rumor mill has indicated
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Apple's in-house chip could debut on his devices in 2025 and then in a post on X published I
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guess this L late last week the analyst CL same guy Ming quo claims that Apple
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will debut its 5G chip on two iPhone models in 2025 chip will launch with the iPhone
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se4 in the spring of 2025 followed the iPhone 17 slim later in the year that's
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an odd detail to to like the se4 and the iPhone 17 slim well what about the what
33:27
about the other iPhones maybe maybe that's why it's going to be so much more expensive despite having fewer features
33:33
I bet they're probably just like dipping their toes into it you know on the on the less important iPhones to their bottom line you know if if something
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goes wrong with the iPhone se4 it's like well no major loss there you know that
33:45
that's a phone that they sell over a period of like five years why why did you buy the cheap phone you should have bought a good one and if you complain
33:53
about the expensive one then what well we can give you an iPhone 17 Pro Max
33:59
instead M uh let's see So currently Apple sources its 5G chips from Qualcomm
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and you know what a difference the 5G makes right in your everyday life it's just at least as fast as as 4G usually
34:14
yeah that's that's why my hair is blown back because when I get when I got my iPhone 12 I was so just blown away by
34:19
the by the F power of 5G that my life was forever changed yeah that was like that was that Year's titanium it was
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just such a marketing point and such a nothing when it actually arrived in your
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hands let's see in all actuality I don't I don't even think my phone plant supports 5G I think I'm still on a 4G
34:37
plan I've I mean a couple of times I've seen better than average speeds a couple
34:43
and I've had these things for years now uh let's see mostly what I do is the it hops between bands and I don't get any
34:51
it's that's what I love like oh it's it'd be so great if it was 5G but then it just like eventually fails over to 4G
34:57
and it's like no that's great let's see uh anyway earlier this year Apple extended its modem licensing deal with
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uh qualcom Qualcomm until March 2027 do we want to hear the rest of this given the turbulent development journey of
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Apple's 5G modem it's entirely possible that the company will hit a last minute roadblock again forcing it to fall back
35:18
on qualcomm's modem again next year even if it debuts chip performance might not be as good as that from Qualcomm I don't
35:24
know where that comes from I I think that's pure speculation on our part I I would hope that if Apple switches to its
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own modem that it's actually better and offers some kind of some kind of Advantage I mean surely it would and
35:38
like you're saying oh this is the next the next uh Apple silicone silicon thing
35:43
right well so I I haven't actually heard much about how a 5G modem would be
35:48
better or worse I mean maybe less of that switching but I don't yeah I mean from what I've read they are just
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intensely complicated pieces of silicon to develop but you know if if a a better one would be more battery efficient like
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currently currently the a big problem with 5G modems is that they are incredibly battery inefficient and
36:06
they're a big Power drain uh like apple has a setting in if you go into settings
36:11
where it can uh you can choose it to forcibly stick with 5G if a 5G
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connection is available but it warns you this is going to have worse battery life huh yeah maybe that's it maybe that's a
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great point maybe it'll be like oh uh and that makes sense with a SL with a slim I phone right like oh uh because it
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has a less battery uh but it had we paired it with this super efficient
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Apple 5G modem now it lasts at least as long as the one with the battery that's
36:41
you know a third bigger it's you know all these all these kind you they're kind of these rumors
36:47
are kind of dovetailing I mean I I will say about the iPhone slim because I heard you you and airphone talking about this last week I think maybe like the
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the one part that we don't know about the iPhone slim yet is what it looks like and you know sure it might not have
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the the best camera it might not have the best display it might use the regular chip instead of the pro chip but
37:06
you know what maybe it just looks really damn cool and we don't know yet it'll be bronze
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yeah a color that's an actual color yeah and that's the only
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feature definitely worth hundreds of dollars more yeah I don't know yeah our fun and I were scratching our heads over
37:25
this one last week it's it's really odd you know they say that it's going to have all these not substandard but you
37:32
know not best-in-class features you know all these things that aren't going to be quite as good as the iPhone Pro Max or
37:38
whatever and uh and yeah it's going to cost more and yeah it's going to be interesting do you remember from like 13
37:45
years ago the rumors of the iPhone 5 before the actual like design leaked or
37:51
whatever that there there were rumors that it was going to be like this weird like uh teardrop shape and it was going
37:56
to be like incredibly SC and stuff like that do you remember those at all no uhuh I think there was like a like there
38:02
was like a leaked image that I was probably just like somebody's ridiculous concept art that they passed as being a
38:08
leak but it it was going to be like incredibly thin like it would kind of have like that iPad 2 shape to it where
38:13
it was like you know pointy on the edges and it like you know tear teared off to a very like skinny Edge to it maybe that
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leak was actually true and it was just 13 years ahead of its time and they've been trying to make that phone all along
38:27
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World is very exciting if not life-threatening uh I don't know it
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seems like an odd way to spend our money but um well here's another ridiculous way to
40:22
spend your money on a Vision Pro what a segue
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uh this is a story that we just broke earlier this week a brain implant lets
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ALS patients control Vision Pro via thoughts and a groundbreaking development of brain computer interface
40:39
or BCI company not sure how popular an acronym that is I've never heard that anywhere else yeah yeah that's what
40:45
neuralink is BCI uh this company called synchron
40:50
successfully demonstrated the first ever use of Apple's Vision Pro controlled directly by thought Innovations like
40:58
thought control of division Pro could lead to big things for both hands-free and voice- free use of devices the
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demonstration involved Mark a 64-year-old man living with uh ALS that
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has taken away his use of arms and hands he could control the vision proos cursor using his thoughts thanks to synchron's
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Tiny implanted BCI which doesn't require open brain surgery that allowed Mark to
41:23
play solitire watch Apple TV and send text messages without the need for handj which along with eye movement are
41:29
typically required to operate the device the BCI is inserted in the blood vessel
41:34
on the surface of the motor cortex of the brain via the jugular vein through
41:40
uh what they say is a minimally invasive endovascular procedure I don't I know
41:47
that sounds a little invasive I'm not a doctor May maybe maybe that's really easy to do who knows it communicates
41:54
with a small device affixed to the patient PA's chest then it detects and wirelessly transmits motor intent out of
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the brain to enable severely paralyzed people to control personal devices with handsfree point and click yeah so the
42:10
first thing I thought when I read this was do you really I mean do you have to use your hands to use the Vision Pro
42:17
yeah I think you do there there might be an accessibility feature around it but if there is it's probably kind of annoying to use I so because of the
42:25
pinching mhm not you can't do that by like blinking flat twice really fast or
42:30
something I you know I haven't I haven't dug a lot into the accessibility features I know that they're rolling out like a eye control for the iPhone that
42:37
would supposedly let you look around on your phone screen and you know just stare at something for a few seconds to
42:42
activate it so you know if if David can't afford a Vision Pro certainly not after you know paying for his healthc
42:48
care in this country maybe he could get an iPhone and use dwell control on that but um yeah there are a lot of
42:54
accessibility features on the Vision Pro like one of them like turns on a like beam that comes out of your eyes it's
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like your eyes are shooting a laser beam and that way you can and that turns on a beam that shoots out of your eye wait a
43:07
minute that doesn't sound right like it it adds that to to the display like so that you can see where the Vision Pro
43:13
thinks you're looking oh I see so so like what you see looks like your uh
43:18
Cyclops from the X-Men yeah yeah okay they have a number of nifty
43:24
accessibility features I I don't know if you can but I don't know if there is a way to control it without actually tapping your fingers I mean that was the
43:31
first thing that I uh when I read this you know headline we were talking about this story I was like well using only as
43:38
I think the original said using thoughts alone I'm like surely it must not you know it's got I mean can the guy use his
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eyes I mean how you wouldn't wear a headset if you couldn't use your eyes uh but yeah I don't know it's um it's not
43:52
having used The Vision Pro extensively it's it's weird to me like how much
43:58
would you really need it you know the hand gestures and stuff but I guess you're saying at least in the regular
44:03
mode you do it's this stuff with the brain brain implants man it's getting
44:10
it's kind of wild I mean the way that they can is why hard you know Jack into your
44:16
brain and know what you're thinking and know what you're trying to do and replicate it that's is that's truly
44:22
astonishing so yeah and like one part of the The Vision Pro that I think is like one of its one of the easiest signs
44:28
where it could get better is that eye tracking stuff like it it's pretty accurate but with my Vision Pro I think
44:34
it's like no matter how many times I calibrate it it always thinks I'm looking like one degree higher than I
44:42
act or like lower than I actually am like it it's kind of like offset by the same amount of distance as just like my
44:48
thumb from a a little far away and so I just sort of trained myself to look
44:53
slightly above where I actually want to look before I tap on something if I'm like like trying to pick something from like a vertical list where like you know
45:00
the vertical Precision matters you know maybe I just need to go through the calibration again and like try and
45:06
intentionally offset my eyes a little bit as I'm doing like the The Little Dot pattern setup thing but pretty much
45:12
until they get to a um until Apple can like do a first party like neural control or something like that if it if
45:18
it's even on their road map you know that that would be the next big step Beyond eye tracking and hand tracking in
45:24
that way I don't want to be too personal but uh is your how how bad is your glasses
45:29
prescription my glasses are admittedly pretty bad I think my right eye is min -
45:35
5 and a qu and my left eye is- 4 and 3/4 not not blind as a bat like you are but
45:41
usually amongst a group of friends I'm the one with the worst glasses I I just wonder how much that has to do with it's
45:47
it's Vision tracking right because you're wearing this thing and you got you got the prescription lenses I'm sure
45:53
right in there so you would think that they would have figured it out but I just wonder if like the the way that it
46:00
interprets what you're looking at varies depending on how bad your eyes are you know and I and I really wonder like
46:06
since my eyes are radically different I mean I think minus 9 and a half and
46:12
minus5 or something so like one is one is bad and the other one is like almost
46:17
useless so I'm really curious if I could ever get one of these things you know if they ever Dain to let me try one with my
46:25
amazing uh what do they call it a prism I have to have a prism in my prescription uh I'm just curious if if
46:33
if that affects the eye tracking you I wonder if the next time you go to your doctor if you can just ask hey is it
46:39
possible to have glass a glasses prescription without prism because I want to use a headset you know I did ask
46:45
this this last time I went I said hey uh and she goes oh you don't you don't really need the prism it's just there
46:51
for I can't remember what she said it's there for like I don't know keep your eyes from getting tired or something
46:56
like that you know so uh so I could I could take that prescription and say hey
47:01
no prism but I don't know if they would bounce it and I guess I've lost interest in The Vision Pro like everyone else
47:07
having never tried it which is it is really kind of an admission of laziness and I don't know I I can't honestly I
47:14
can't believe it's been this long I I was so excited to try it and then when I got rejected because of the prism in the
47:21
prescription I just I just lost all hope the momentum yeah I lost all hope and then you know I've had other things
47:27
going on and it's like oh God anyway yep you know we're coming up to a
47:32
busy month so oh did you want to do you want to move on to the next story why not let's go uh so yeah I'm actually
47:39
excited to hear this I have not heard it yet but it's it's a there's a new Apple podcast about Apple history and it's
47:45
it's it's by it's hosted by two Cult of Mac alumni which we got we heard word of
47:51
this uh this month it comes out this month that you know we got a a slack message from Graham Bower he's a guy
47:57
who's written so many Fantastic uh Apple watch how-tos and stuff for us uh and so
48:04
gram started this podcast with Charlie sorl who used to do our how-tos uh and
48:10
this new podcast is called apple core and they hosted and uh they in this
48:16
podcast they explored a history of each episode explores a history of a different Apple product focusing on what
48:22
we can learn from Apple's past and what this tells us about the company's future your plans let's see supposedly they're
48:28
going to have Leander on there and maybe even you right uh let's see first three episodes are already out now that they
48:34
they released them all at once I guess maybe is that a is that a podcast strategy that people do like oh we got to have three at once got to come out
48:40
the gate early I surprised that they did but you know they they they've got like a whole whole you know several hours worth of content to listen to right out
48:46
of the gate yeah it's like the Apple TV plus strategy right relas three the first week and then one a week for I
48:52
don't know ever for them in their case let's see uh first three episodes are out the first one they cover the history
48:58
of airport the first consumer Wi-Fi technology and then they cover Mac os8
49:04
and uh finally you're going to love this the Nike Nike is it Nike Plus iPod sport
49:09
kit the company's first foray into health and fitness designed to work with an iPod Nano and uh I I admit I as
49:17
excited I am to hear that this exists I have not yet subscribed and started listening to it but uh you did right you
49:23
checked out at least one episode oh yeah I I was you know I didn't didn't I didn't know that if if Graham or Charlie
49:29
had any experience podcasting before but you know it is a very finely produced podcast like the artwork is is gorgeous
49:36
it's very thoroughly researched there are very pleasant voices to listen to it's uh nicely edited and put together
49:43
like they they clearly put a lot of work into their show notes I'll admit I had I had no clue of the the Nike Plus iPod
49:49
sport kit existed oh really you know even as an Apple history offici in a who's like paying attention to things
49:55
around that time but like yeah I I I had no clue that product existed and you know they they they tell the whole story of this weird thing you know beginning
50:02
to end you haven't been reading today in Apple history religiously enough yeah it's it's weird like it it feels like
50:07
they they covered three different topics that pretty much lined up with the our today and Apple history posts that were
50:13
published around that same time what a coincidence yeah yeah it's almost like they work here or something yeah you
50:19
know uh I I saw the the lead graphic that uh Graham provided us with you know
50:25
and yeah it's great he he always does great great images I mean he's a designer and uh he's also very
50:32
meticulous you know he's he's a good journalist and a good you know how-to writer and uh also super nice guy and uh
50:41
Fitness buff my God I I I he challenged me to some apple watch Fitness things a
50:47
while back and we you'll never guess who won but uh I I
50:52
still get like daily messages on my Apple watch Graham just finished a workout 5K outdoor run it's like oh my
51:00
God I I read this stuff and I'm like I just I I I it should be motivational but
51:06
it actually makes me just go oh God what's the point grah just finished another one and
51:14
a half hour weight training uh workout H geez okay Graham slow down buddy you're
51:20
already ripped I guess it's how you stay ripped mhm like this Nike thing it was like a a
51:27
Nike product that required you to buy a special shoe that had a hole in it and then you had like a dongle thing that you put in there and like another thing
51:33
that you plugged into the light like you know 30 pin iPod connector on your iPod where they had an iPod Nano or something
51:38
else and it you know it was basically doing what the Apple watch does now so that that's where it all started
51:45
fascinating so I I got to say I I've you know worked with Charlie
51:50
uh many times can converse with him many times and slack but I've I've never actually heard his voice you know he
51:56
also has a very soft English accent just like Graham I'm definitely going to check this one out so what's it called
52:01
it's called people get Apple Core is the name of this podcast it's available you know wherever you want to listen to a
52:07
podcast H let's round it out with a quick howto or a pro tip this is a
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setting that I discovered a while ago and I immediately changed it I think U some of our listeners will be interested
52:19
too there's a hidden setting in iOS 17 that speeds up haptic touch you know the
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the gesture when you tap and hold the preview links or bring up option menus on your iPhone if you use have to touch
52:31
all the dime like it it it really feels like you're you're supercharging your iPhone when you do it and and conversely
52:36
it makes the opposite make everybody else's iPhone feel slow so I was just like watching somebody else you know you
52:42
used their iPhone like one of my friends the other day and like you know I saw them like tap and hold on the link and I was far I like wow their phone's like
52:48
running like molasses so you go to the settings app and um then you go to
52:54
accessibility touch and there will be haptic touch and then you'll find three options fast default and slow if you uh
53:03
set the haptic touch to fast it'll react to the gesture really really quick so you know it'll make your phone feel
53:09
fluid and instantaneous uh again that is in settings accessibility touch haptic
53:15
touch this setting panel has like a little picture of a flower that you can like touch and hold on it as like a
53:20
little T Test that's a cool little uh test feature you know so you know if you're not familiar in like Safari you
53:26
can press on a link to get a preview of the page in messages you can long press
53:31
on a conversation to see a preview of the conversation and uh here's another tip inside the tip if you do that then
53:38
it doesn't send a read receipt until you actually open the message so that's a good way to get a preview of the the full message without sending a read
53:44
receipt on your iPhone's home screen app icons offer often have a little few uh
53:49
shortcuts in the context menu when you long press on an icon long pressing on things is a you know pretty pretty
53:55
Universal Gest and this little this little setting makes it a lot faster it's amazing how useful that is and and
54:01
how easy it is forget that it even uh that it's even there right I I can see are you changing it right now well what
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I'm doing is is going around and methodically touching uh you know long yeah I I did switch it at your MH beest
54:16
uh but like for instance the camera icon I didn't even realize that that was there the all the different things as
54:22
many times as I've used the camera I almost always trigger it from the stupid you know lock screen but man the touch
54:28
screen like instantly it gives you the option to selfie video portrait or portrait selfie I I didn't know that
54:34
with the uh with the ha to touch that's pretty awesome pretty awesome I got to say and and it is super Snappy I mean I
54:42
like your article talked about some people who who complain about it being too fast or whatever you know like so
54:48
you can slow it down if it if you're really bothered by it why would you ever I it doesn't see it's not like it's like
54:53
so fast it's going to rip your head off or something but you know why wait that extra fraction of a second you just save
54:59
people fractions of a second every time they use that I am proving the efficiency of humanity and that is the public good that I offer through the
55:06
medium of my how-to articles well I think we're going to wrap it up there that is all the cultcast we have for you
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music yeah it's we're doing without the music I'll give you some uh those darn
55:48
accordians or electric boie drugs songs to play on there little paa that'll that'll drive
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people away yeah little little weird Ali [Music]
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anic is it the podcast thing is it if if you have music on there that is licensed
56:08
music will it ding you Apple pretty much like you know curates podcasts that are
56:13
open that are hosted on the open web but there's there's no copyright mechanism well I guess you any damn song you
56:24
want I thought about uh asking the guy who who wrote the the music that I put on my videos to commission a few more
56:31
songs for some variety I mean you could use anything
56:36
from my bad nobody's going to care that's true do do you have original
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songs or you yeah yeah tons there's tons of original tracks those trying to think what would be
56:48
good I don't know I don't know how I've never dived into that before
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